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BTW, the Club Museum has a neat period metal parts rack, and if you note beside the new paper tag for the 2597B, you can see original Model T era paper tag.

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I have 2 of the same parts cabinets that you show above, LAPS out of Lupton, Philadelphia.

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Probably not as nice as the ones that you/club have. They...

Hank,

Remember, it ain't bragging if you can back it up!

My daughter, son in law, and grandkids are commiserating in Tennessee right now. They come to Michigan for the Festival every year and can’t believe it’s gone. My daughter has yet to miss one since her birth and my grandkids can make the same claim.

Prior to Kim Dobbins ownership, the car was owned by a gentleman from the Bakersfield area and could be seen once in awhile at the H.C.C.A. Bakersfield Swap Meet.
I won't post the man's name here due to the fact that I haven't been given permission by him to do so but, I can say that the car can be seen running and driving in an episode of the...

I think one wheel on our T has been repaired at some time in the past with a screw in place of one of the rivets, like shown on the ModelTFordFix.com site. There is a swap meet coming up here on Oct 2-3 and I will look for some wheels (and other parts) for our '21 Touring.
My problem with the wheels we have is not being able to build a press and...

Glad to hear that the car has some new caretakers. Thru the years, I have seen pictures that you posted of that speedster. I always had a sad feeling when I saw it sitting out in the weather. But now it seems to have a brighter future. :) :) please keep us posted ..

They needed the space on the line at Rouge for, um, other stuff for the next model year... Totally new, um, yeah, models in collaboration with Overland...

USA Ford stopped putting casting dates on blocks about 1922. Canadian blocks continued to get casting dates for several more years until almost the end of T production.
The block shown with the dual ford script stamped at angles is a common replacement block. Although the intention was for the old serial number to be stamped above the scripts,...

Thank you Scott I am well aware of Craig's collection just never seen it in person.

I don't want this to start a discussion on ethanol fuels since its about combustion in general. Water vapor is a result of a carbon based fuel and oxygen. Cooling the gases in the copper tube may act as a still causing the gases to condense. I'm certain you have been behind a car at a stop light only to see so fluid dripping from their tail pipe...

Yup, moderation is the word.
Just enough to see that there is some there.
Several years ago we took in a Volvo that couldn’t blow heat out of the heater.
I found the heater hoses were put on with blue RTV and it had plugged the temp control valve.

I helped a guy change a third member on a 63 year old car a couple of months ago.
He wouldn’t let me...

I second that you have a TT part, which has a taller cam.

I know one time I got cheated by a gasoline station! The old Ford pickup I drove for work for seventeen years, I knew quite well. A couple times I pulled into stations on empty, even to the point of hearing the first flow from the hose splashing onto the dry bottom of the tank. It held seventeen gallons, almost exactly. One day I pulled into a...

Thanks for the info Steve. Unfortunate, but not unexpected.

It must be early 1926. No headlight bar.

Two month wait to get vinyl windows for my house manufactured and delivered. The local couch factory is making and selling product like gangbusters from people staying at home and spending government checks. My practice essential service never closed, numbers about average, and lately are over the top. I have time to work on the Hay wagon to...

George,
You've hit the nail on the head! The older we get the more we over think everything. Simple jobs take longer as we imagine too many pitfalls. Oh for the impulse repairs when failure was not an option. Take care and throw caution to the wind sometimes!!

when the connecting rod goes into the pan, it throws oil up in the cylinder. The faster you go, the more oil is thrown up. If the rings are good, you shouldn't have oil going all the way up into the top of the cylinder. If the rings are new, there is a possibility, all the ends of the rings line up with each other and that would cause it to get...

Fantastic!

if I may:
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Ask the vendor and then post their answer here.

Great photos Tom. Keep'em coming!

Old photo of the trailer though it isn’t the subject piece of the pic

Dan,

Thanks for the two pieces of information. How to find the factory number was the piece that I was missing. I see that the Model Aers have an online search index, I wonder what it would take to get the T index online or even better, the DWG online to purchase? I think I will broach that with the HF and see if I can get some interest.

Ted

Hey, knowing Steve has a set on his car makes me want a set on mine that much more! ;)

The position of the windshield hinge appeared in later 1917. The bow sockets look square which along with the previous comments would make it 1918 or non-starter 1919 (maybe :D )

My Holden bodied Tarrant tourer has the fuel tank hanging under the spare tyre carrier at the back, so I have even more to keep clean. I welded an extension onto the rear muffler end. It hangs vertically, low enough to clear the back axle and everything else. It looks a bit like the dangly bit under a stallion, but it does a really good job....

I think that there many more of those wrenches about than Model Ts.

Does he ever race Amish buggies?

How far back can old forms be accessed?

Perry: Quik Poly was a wonderful product for repairing soft or holey wood. Unfortunately it is no longer available. The maker retired and refused to sell the formula and rights to anyone. Gone forever I’m afraid.

What about the covered bridge Model T tour ???

Tom,

The last I heard, a couple weeks ago, is that it's still a go .

As this will 'hopefully' just be a week or two before it's assymbled and installed on the car, I'll just go with regular or transmission fluid so everything has a smear of oil.

Thanks, all!

Ford Service Bulletin, Nov. 1924 describes the use of the 'AR' part suffix triple pin, as opposed to the factory pin which can't be reused if punched out as the hole in the flywheel is now enlarged slightly.

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That's the way to do it Chris.Thanks for sharing the great pictures.
Rich

THANK YOU JERRY!!!!!!

Could start by checking the lift. Subtract width at the narrow side from the height (toe to heel). What is that number? Might help posting photos of it too.

He's just bragging.

Usually the extreme tightness is caused by a burr that was thrown up during assembly. I've found that to be the case on about 1/3 of the transmissions I've worked on. Nearly all of the drums in this scenario get wrecked during pulling; it's smart to be sure you have a good one on hand as a replcement before you start.

Incidentally, my Ford puller...

I love how T’s are so much like horses. It makes me smile.

Kathy, that sounds exactly like the policy I have on all my T's. With the company with which I am insured, that is normal for ollector/historical vehicles. there is no extra charge, so it must be built into the premium. It is good to know that someone offers this benefit.

Allan from down under.

It was great to see Chris and Jerry out for our Foothills Model T event on Saturday. We had close to 50 people and 15 cars.
Barry Proctor cooked 50 pounds of Mexican Discada along with a few dozen smokies. No one went hungry.
These guys have turned into hard core T touring folks. Hopefully they were under cover before last night's rain and snow....

Depends on what your call a knock. A spark knock sounds like a Ping and will change with the position of the spark lever. A dull thud would be caused be something like a piston hitting the head or a piston loose in the cylinder or possibly a loose main bearing. This type knock is also more noticeable when under power such as rapid acceleration or...

The above is all good. You might also check the magneto output.
You need an AC voltmeter - analogue is better for this check. You should get about 5v at idle, rising to over 30v at high rpm.
(a simpler check is to connect a turn or brake light 12v 21W bulb; it should get VERY bright or blow when you rev up)
Less than 15v max would make an in-car...

There is a long video of the Lake Perkolilli Red Dust Revival 2019 in Australia now available to view on Vimeo at if anyone who saw the short one last year would like to see a longer version. Lots of Model Ts were there. Hard to believe it was a year ago.
Graeme

Thanks Dan and Steve,
They are standard T width. I was aware of the wider Chev rims, but thought they all had fixed lugs. On closer inspection, these were held on the felloe with 5 wedging type lugs. I believe accessory Firestone demountable heels were 5 lugged. Photos on the forum of Firestone rims show a collar around the valve stem hole to be a...

I personally wouldn't be worried that the drum is worn more in the middle because the band will wear in to the drum. I'd be more concerned if the surface of the drum still runs concentric to the shaft. If not the band will jerk and jar the car when you take off which can be unpleasant at the least and eventually damage other parts of the car. I...

That’s a great looking runabout Terry. I love period political sign...how cool.

This is waaaay outside the box, but maybe there is actually something inside the water outlet making the noise. For instance, someone could have put a thermostat in there, and its flapper has gotten loose and is waving around. Or, maybe some kind of piece of something has migrated there. The only way to make sure is to take it off, which will cost...

Your tack strip is looking great. :) The terminal end seems fine, you want a bit of taper as the upholstery material will be folded over it, I like to fold under about 3/4 to 1 of material for a rolled-under look, hidem welt will cover.

The wood was mounted originally with stove bolts, drill and countersink holes on the outside, through the wood...

I know. They are going to be hidden.
The screws that are visible have been special ordered.
Ford almost put square head screws in his cars.

They work fine with the 28v bulbs from Langs.
I don't doubt that they light up, but have you tried to drive by them at night? :D

Like I posted , using POR -15 on my spring leaves before assembly the smooth surface is working very well with no squeaking . It’s the closest product you can get,short of power coat & it brushes on. They offer chassis, engine, heat resistance coatings in many colors. Can’t say enough about this product. But remember to put plastic between can &...

Since you found it useful, I’ll post it again here...

Google allows special formatting to narrow search results. If you type site:mtfca.com first, it will only bring back hits from within the site. You can then just type keywords to search for. For this thread as an example, you’d type site:mtfca.com slip paint to search related discussions.

If you determine that the fuel system is OK and you focus attention again on the Truefire, double check the timing using Truefire's recommended procedure, shown in this thread:

I found that I had to substantially lengthen the stock timing rod to get correct timing with the Truefire, to the point where it can touch the timer terminals as you...

More than that, through fifty-plus years close to the hobby, i mourn the number of complete and interesting cars that were scattered in misguided restoration attempts, never to be made whole again.

I would like to hear from our Canadian members about the 88 rims carriers. I think 88 rims were used more up there than in the States.
Although, I did get 4 NOS 88 rims out of a Ford dealership in TN that closed in 29.
How about some input from the “ Great White North”? Thanks Dan

According to Motor World volume 31, page 31 (1912):

The Smith Hardware Co., Pine City, Minn., has entered the automobile selling field; it has secured a Ford Agency.

OK, got the Stipe tool set but it came without any instructions. It looks intuitive. Any tips on using these? When do you use one over the other?
Thanks!
Mike

I have seen those on the early generator brush plates.
Most likely as you say, an early starter.
Brent

Come to Luray!! October 6-8. The venue is gorgeous with lush green fields, mountain views, and wonderful people. The deals are also great for both buyers and sellers. You wont be disappointed.

I updated my registry with MP site. Ben added it last night. The 1st link Frank posted has my truck. The 1st photos is a slide show if you click on them. It is a great site to have when trying to figure out what body you have and details.

Thank you Scott C and John S. I'm pretty sure that my cam levers need tweaking and I did some grinding on the bolt AND nuts. Since this is a NEW install, the directions call for TWO flat washers between the radius rod and the C shaped caliper bolts ie, the bolt goes through the backing plate then the radius rod then TWO flat washers followed by...

Gene French post here and in the classifieds. He makes the babbitt boring outfits. If he does not see this send him a PM. He was working with someone else that was making them.

Tomorrow our Calgary Club is hosting its annual Inspection, Driving School and Car games day.
We are expecting 50 or more people with around 20 Model T's. The forecast temperature is around 85 F.
On Sunday and Monday the weatherman is predicting frost and possibly snow here in Southern Alberta.
Looks like we planned this one right.
Harry Lillo

I just went to the AACA forum and there a number of new post about this guy or guys. You might want to go read that thread. Dan

I don't know the exact angle, but he might be able to use one of his old needles to make a tool to regrind his new needle to match the angle of the old needle (video courtesy of Steve Jelf):

Based on your concern - a shorter mirror arm will result in less apparent movement of the image in the mirror.

Beautiful work!

Img_20171106 my car and others were used in 2017 to promote the series. Picture was taken in Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Mark,
I have been running this LL535 electromechanical 6 volt flasher for my turn signals and it has a nice steady flash rate even though it lives right next to the coil box. It has been working fine for over 5 years with 6CP front and 21CP rear incandescent bulbs, and flashes the same whether the engine is running or not.
Best regards.
Brian...

I was told a couple months ago by Blue Lane Freight in Spanaway, WA (Fastenal) that no shipments originating from from the West Coast to the Midwest or the East Coast would be contracted until further notice.

Ron,

The new Warfords are made by Layne Machine Works in Kansas city MO. Their phone number is 816-231-3268. I am under the impression that there are a couple of ratios available. I could be wrong. Call them and ask.

Just to add, there are two different springs used in the generator. Two for the large brushes and one for the small. So that makes 3 different springs between the two units.

I can’t see the detail on the wiring of the ten bolts for the ring gear, but Lee Pierce taught me to wire them in pairs. So bolts are wired in pairs. The three bolts on the differential can be split pinned but those using three studs should be wired together.
One old timers trick if the hub or axle taper is a little worn. Move the gear on the end...

Most bulbs on my boat have one filament and two contacts, one contact supplies the current and the other is ground. It is possible that your triple contacts have one going to ground.

...do you have the correct steering column?
Not in the car yet. I'll get it in there eventually. :)

Looks very much like this 1917 Pullman, but with wire wheels.

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FD6359C8-2032-40E5-9C10-EF2C43DDB5A0.jpeg My 1912 KisselKar manifold studs are 1/2-12 thread (both ends).

Broke one earlier this summer and a good friend carved me two new ones and a couple nuts from 4140 steel.

I was hoping for a picture of a T powered motorcycle!! I keep thinking about building one.
I like the picture of the BIG headlight. I have something similar that could be used!!

I know Ross and he is a stand up guy with a great reputation.

Peter - thanks for your comments. You make an interesting point. Yes, I can change a tire. I carry a spare, jack, lug wrench & etc. I also frequently check tire pressure.

I have re-keyed original cylinders, that's simple if you can find the correct old stock parts. (The original barrels varied in the location of guide for the slot in the key, the original tumblers exchange universally in original cylinders as far as I know.) The biggest challenge I faced was finding a functional original cylinder.

Rekeying the...

Phew! Reading the thread title I wondered Why would you put wooden boards to replace the sprung padded ones...

Close call that...

This is the lights before restoring, also the bulkhead mounted regulator.