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Hello Gents.
Thought I would let you know the outcome of Dad’s Generator in his 1927 T
Your tips were spot on. I used the 6V Battery from another T, found and set the Null Point, fitted a John Regan
6V Voltage Regulator and once back on the vehicle rotated the 3rd Brush until we had 8 Amps. The charge rate dropped down
even lower after 10...

I find this tool to be altogether pleasing, elegant, and entirely fitting for the purpose. Salute!

So they attached the tent ropes to the car on the other side and butted up the tent to the car it looks like. Thou shalt not comment on another persons spouse even if they lived 100 years ago and even though secretly I thought it was funny too.

FWIW, here's how I do wood wheels. Mine still look beautiful and are nice and straight after almost 20 years of washing and sudden thunder storms.

Start the job by fully restoring your hubs and fellows, and assembling the wheel. Begin painting the wood by removing all dust with a good tack cloth. Use a good quality outdoor wood primer. I like and...

I will 3rd what Rajoracer said, also checking the null point. I had a generator that had those windings in it, had a devil of a time figuring it out.

Thanks Ron. FYI; these coils were brand new, so they may still be having some issues.

I have a 1919 Roadster and finally used the later 30x3 1/2 carrier on it. That was several years ago and at the time I found out with the forum it was a 1 year only for 1919 and over time it was used on other later T’s. Or so it seems that’s where the confusion began or so I read.
I used the later version since I couldn’t find the “supposedly”...

The name Bernhart sounds familiar. I never knew your father, but Bernhart was my Catecism teacher for one year. A fine man, I still remember his lessons. Wisconsin PBS TV has a series Around the Corner in Wisconsin . They have an episode on Mequon - Thiensville. They feature Trinity Church, the hardware store, etc. If you Google it I think you...

Thanks for the response Joseph !

I'm late getting back to this thread, but thanks to all who responded.

The immediate need has passed — after the lacquer thinner evaporated, my filter element returned to its original size and shape. Said element is now re-oiled and back in place.

On the less-urgent hunt now for unobtrusive replacement options...

OK.... the ‘Ayes’ have it.... actually first responder has it😁....with bubble wrap credit to Mr. Treace. Thanks everyone !!

If it was the ad I am thinking of, those were not Bennett brakes, the pedal and equalizer is. They will not be a bolt on and go. They may have used a larger drum like the rocky mtn small drums do. Neat brakes, but may take some engineering to mount them.

He was last on line on the 24th.
This is what the typical Bennett shoes look like.
Looks...

Pete is one of the few people I know that can build a car that looks like it was made in the old days. He is a true craftsman!

The 1913-14 roadster brackets are the same. The carriage bolts are a special Ford design. I had to use step bolts for mine, and I couldn't find originals that were for sale. You can't see them anyway, but I like original parts.

Thanks. But it does have a Ford R3 generator in it. :roll:

And after that;

The socket is a prime candidate for a molasses rust removal technique. Make a mix of 1:1 feed molasses and water, tape up the split and fill the socket with the mix. It will attack the rust for complete removal. It should be left for a week or so, before draining, washing out and checking. The process can be repeated if necessary. Once clean,...

John, Ford bumpers are like the sets that Lang’s sell. Those come with stainless steel bars, which saves the chrome cost. They also have, or should have a Ford script medallion mounted in the center between the bars.
Unless you find a set of original bars in fantastic condition, its doubtful you’d ever see the large ford script I mentioned...

Roger, can you post a link to the you tube video? What did you use for a source of nickel? Thanks, Dave

Dave,

Sorry for the wait. Here's the link. I got the source nickel on ebay because it was easy.

R/ Roger.

Think of the choke as a primer, closed for priming the engine, open for running.

Bob Bergstadt has had lots of them over the years.

Thanks Mark. I haven't looked in the encyclopedia in a long while, shipping weights seem to vary a lot year to year, and no figures are given for some body types for many years. I wonder if the differences account for dunnage and different methods for loading ? Any road it's interesting to note the 1927 bare chassis is rated 72# heavier than the...

Good idea. I had some that weren't quite long enough and had to make another order but I can't recall the details. I would have to run out to the garage and see if I can find the package label. My approach was to buy many different sizes and thread pitches and mix and match as needed.

Larry, that's exactly WHY I do post to the forum. My research is limited, you guys know a hell of a lot more than I do, sooooooo, I post here, so you and everyone else can help to make them correct. ;)

NOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Quick someone pinch me, please let this be a dream. . . .

In my other hobby, she could say, You will never build that layout (Toy Trains)
No, it wouldn't be You will never finish the layout as everyone knows a layout is NEVER done. . . .
:)

This is just a guess, that they are used to lift the generator or starter brush springs and brushes off the armature and to install armature.

I misread the price. They are asking $3,900.

ERIK AND FRANK-- ITS ALWAYS A FUN TIME TRYING TO IDENTIFY THINGS FROM YESTERDAY THAT HAVE HAD A USEFUL LIFE IN THERE TIME, AND NO LONGER ARE USEFUL IN TO DAYS WORLD. BUT TO MANY, IS FOOD FOR THOUGHT, I ENJOY COLLECTING OLD TOOLS AND SPEND MANY HOURS IDENTIFYING THEM, I HAVE A BIG BOX WITH MANY TOOLS THAT I LAY OUT ON A SHEET AT GAS ENGINE SHOWS,...

Thanks Russ

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I took the horn outside and hooked it up to my Touring. It WORKS....

Thanks guys i think i ve got it figured out now

Universal Tire's website doesn't mention the tube manufacturer, so I'll let folks know when they arrive.

Regarding patching the hole with more rubber and cutting a new hole, sounds too scary to me, I'll let someone else try it and report back. :)

Apparently some other hack previously attempted an amateur soldering job, Willie !

This IS a discussion Forum; I thought everyone's honest experience relative to the discussion is welcome and adds value. Thought police comments, not so much.

Well, the owner is willing to negotiate. He want to move from Rochester and is a motivated seller.

Moved to classifieds for$600 US Paypal okay

I use 0000 steel wool as packing inside nut. Seals very well.

Cement trucks

On one set of wheels, I just used some flat black water based house paint and it turned out ok. On the other set I used some oil based paint and it turned out much better.

He runs Kevlar. It looks like the brake band was dragging. He adjusted it.

That is a Model T sedan and it does have two doors.

The car appears to have been extensively restored, although some years ago. As mentioned by others, it appears some details may have been changed at some time in the car's past. A fact about branch assembly plants, especially ones not inside the USA, is that they often do not adhere to the normal details. It is common for such cars to have...

That folder was for the last version of the Stromberg Carburetor for Model T Fords. The RF. It came out along toward the end of the party, late 25, Ford was transitioning to the Vaporizer so to upgrade you had to go back to an earlier set of manifolds. They still sold pretty well, run great, don't leak at all -- but after close to 100 years are a...

Bring micrometers to swapmeets. I've not had a problem finding pitman arms with good round balls. Filing the caps does help too.

One problem with electroplating that hot dipped does not have is the Farraday effect. Electric currents in the electroplate process can leave bare areas inside of bends. The beads of rims may not receive a zinc coating on the inside. Molten zinc in a hot dip tank will flow into those areas.

The are found unmarked, and marked by 3 makers; Hayes, Prudden and Weston Mott.

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This is a link to an earlier discussion this year and contains a spreadsheet of nuts & bolts by application (right click on image to enlarge it)
You could also use this diagram to make your to make a list

Allen, that was my first thought when I saw it was flat. I installed the valve from the spare. Still went flat and as I was trying to fill tire I heard the air escaping inside the tire.
I've started looking for an original valve to replace the rubber valve.

Actually, I have a wood firewall. The photo I posted is not of my car. I used a small router bit to make a slot in the wood because the push rod doesn't move straight back and forth. On the inside the slot is covered by an oval shaped brass disc with a centered hole.

I've attached a drawing that may help. It's referenced to the cabin side of the...

I don't think I've ever seen a valve come out of the bottom of a Prest-O-Lite tank like that.

Will your replacement seal fit my housing. Outer diameter is 40 mm.

Looks like you’ve lost a bit of sleep over this project. You should have plenty of braking potential with those rotors, and am curious to see what caliper you choose. Keep in mind that spacing the rear wheels out increases the torsional load on the rear axles... think safety hubs!

Kevin, the rotors and calipers are 1997 Ford Ranger. The same...

I’m in Battle Creek and would normally be interested but not since my cranking incident. Andrew Larder Auto Upholstery in Homer Michigan does beautiful work.

Thanks for your comments Jim. Tried the light bulb and still pulsating. I guess the brass antenna is to strong. I suppose I should consider it free energy and live with it.
Keith

Dan, Conway is about the only choice. Its a college town and is on I-40 so there are lots of choices to stay and eat. The auction is just about 15 miles north of Conway.

I'm curious how this auction will be. With most all the events being cancelled this year, will there be a big crowd or smaller crowd. ?. In not planning on buying anything, but...

Oatman, Az. Our club went there about 4 years ago. We stopped in a local cafe for some coffee and dessert. While there a group of motorcyclists came in. They had parked together in front of the place. While we were there someone came in, and asked, Who owns those motorcycles? . A burro had bumped one of them and it was like a domino effect!
Norm

The second or third photo was taken in Riverside, California. You can see the Mission Inn in the background.

First thing that caught my eye (after the swirl) was the shape of the combustion chamber - maybe the predecessor of the hemispherical head... call it a Semi-Hemi? It'd be fun to try out just to see what it did - would it scald the cat or be an anchor-dragger?

A 9 leaf rear spring is totally different than an 8. Your best bet is to buy a complete spring out of a sedan.

I'll be curious to see if it changes your top speed for next years Montana 500, Tom... I was always told by some old timers the diskies were more aerodynamic than the wireys, but it'd be interesting to take a known car (like yours) that has speed records and see what difference the wires make to the discs.

Hi Jim,

Thank you for your advice. I have a Thermostat and a brand new radiator too. After 15 minutes is bowling a lot.

Maybe I will try to buy a cheap harbor freight infrared gun type thermometer to see what happen in different place of the engine.

Thanks Peter, Bruce & Allan.

What size is that thing? And what point sizes are the fonts? I can tell you why it didn't look right with any of the engraving machines....the fonts were hand laid, not computer generated. For them to look like the original, you'd have to do it exactly the way they did it...hand lay it.

If you want it to look like the original, send me a good...

I went through that Wawona Tunnel Tree in a 1936 Ford in 1945, many years ago, in a 1931 Model A in 1962 , and in a 1949 Cadillac about 1968. A few years ago, the tree fell down and now is a big log. It is located in the Mariposa Grove in Yosemite National Park. These days they don't let cars drive through the grove, you have to ride a shuttle....

Thanks Jim,....didn't even think to try that!

Pretty nifty ! Apparently you could crank it conventionally from outside the car too. I wonder if the device entailed an anti-kick device ? Caption on the photo says Carey, Idaho, 1917 .

If you have that option, by all means, install them without cutting them. After countersinking and riveting the liners on, make them as round as possible before sliding them onto the drums from the rear. You won’t be disappointed with their performance and if you are careful, they may last until your next rebuild. Good luck. Jim Patrick

Yes there is two, one is already installed (the top one) because it wouldn't be clear with the ball mounting ring in the way. I suppose I could back the mounting ring off a bit so as to show that plug though...

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How about this?

Larry

Agree, must be issue of the screw shaft too, as the threads shouldn’t end in an abrupt stop, rather that last groove should be smooth opening.

The little drift pin should then be in the reduced section of the shaft. That keeps the gear from vibrating back towards the flywheel since the spring loaded pin is now expanded in the rear most...

I will will give it to you if I still have it.
Thanks, Randy, but I found some.

Model T-Tips now has a video on mag coil rebuilding. Mike Bender sent me this link to it:

I used this system when I did my Tudor.

Awesome....Congratulations!!

Great pic Tim!

Well the one on Ebay is definitely identical to the one the guy showed me. Only you can read the words better than on the one I was shown. Looks to be in better shape overall.
Don't need one that bad though! They are pretty cool JTS.

Larry, you need to verify the exact date of manufacture for your car. If it was a Friday or Monday car, that could explain the disparity. If it was assembled after a major holiday,....well that would have definitely contributed to the problem. Or maybe it was just meant to be.....
Its only original once.....
Don

Yes. You can buy just the pads. I would suggest upholstery thread and needles to repair your top. Then you should be able to use tar from inside a coil to slather on top of the stitches. That would be authentic for the era.

Thanks for the info David....I appreciate it.

I hadn't thought of using coil tar for the repair. That's a nifty idea. I...

I was at Lang's yesterday to pick up an order. Business (mostly) as usual. Yes, a slightly reduced workforce due to Pandemic protocols, but they are taking orders and parts are going out of the door. Steve and Don were absent, being somewhere in New Hampshire getting a load of used Model T parts.

During a sublime day/activity like that, my grandfather would always say, I wonder what the poor folks are doing today . ;)

(of course, we'd always reply with whatever we were doing at the time). :D

I say it a lot now with my kids. They roll their eyes (and use the same comeback), but they love it.

When i broke a crankshaft i found the ball bearing 4 th main had gone bad. The bearing had a shield on the back side only and the bearing was exposed to the engine oil.I went back to Ford on rebuilt but i would not put much faith in off shore junk. Often buying the very best is cheaper in the long run!! Bud. :D

My T is now parked in my garage in Camarillo. I am ready to join, if I only knew how. :-)

Something I've noticed is there is a Made in USA in the corner of the Ford script on original mats. This is something that has been omitted on the new ones. The starter versions have an embossment around the starter switch. My '14 has an embossment around the speedometer cable hole. This is a very early '14 made in '13.

Thanks guys. Marty, I trimmed them straight across a day or two ago. They are old wicks but were saturated and seem to do a good job.

Thank you very much! In will look into that.

Dont the early steering column shafts have a different steering ratio so the pins are in a different location or are the gears just a differnt size for the later columns?
how did you go about cutting in the key way?

I loved the idea of the hub cap force amplifier for removal of a hot radiator cap. I watched the video too! I would caution everyone concerning reaching across the steam path for removal of the cap. If the cap suddenly exits the filler neck a very nasty steam burn could happen. Just my opinion as I used to work in an electrical generation...

I sure will, Jonah!

I'm so glad you are making connections on The Forum. You will get LOTS of great help from these very knowledgeable folks!

I hate clip on s too but there is no need on my Round House Bibs.Bud. :D