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Asking for a friend- if a car is incorrectly connected positive ground- will the starter spin backwards?

Is it just me, or is the technical article on page 12 worded wrong. Read the 3rd paragraph starting with FOR STARTING PURPOSES, worded wrong.

Has a day and time been set ???

Anyone have any ideas as to why this horn button has this divet in it? Maybe it’s just been crushed but it looks oddly uniform.

I have been working to get my new 24 Touring ready to start. The coils do not buzz. I was getting 6 volts to the coil box,so I removed coils. I put +6v to the bottom contact and -6v to the top side timer contact. All were dead. I measured the ohms between the contacts and got 3-5 megs with the points closed or open.
Am I testing these right. I do...

I have a Bosch distributor with the points and condenser riveted into a metal cup which slides down into the distributor housing. My car is loosing power when it warms up. I changed the coil and that didn't fix it . I think it may be the condenser that is bad. I bought a condenser, however, it appears as though the condenser is below a metal cover...

I understand why someone would use an earlier rear hub and re-drill for five studs to fit a 26-27 brake hub, but I don't understand why a ring was tack welded to the threaded area of the hub. I'd appreciate any observations or comments on this modification. It certainly makes for a difficult removal. 20191006_155700.jpg

I bought a new set of springs from Langs that seem to be made by Snyders. Have ordered the seat upholstery kit from Classtique. So here’s the thing. I’m looking at these new cushion springs that are made on an aluminum framework. They already look kinda twisted and bent right out of the box and they are definitely not as well built as the original...

I wanted to let you all I will be set up at Hershey PA. 2019!
I will be in spots - RWI 32 & 33. These are a few pictures of some of the Super Brass
Model T Carburetors I will have available.
Thank you all, and hope to see you all at Hershey!
Russell Potter
carbking@soltec.net

Hi Guys
I sold the speedster seat below in April for delivery to Hershey. So far I haven’t heard back from the buyer to confirm the delivery. If you purchased this seat please contact me.
Thanks,
Brent Mize

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What is the preferred radius of a T crankshaft? Thanks for your time and help. Bob 903 824 1949

I find it interesting that we use timken bearings and yet timken grease is not sold in any auto store or farm store.

I have been a fan of the new-fangled rear axle seals and have them on most of my T's. The Touring requires an axle shim on both sides to give proper clearances. The shims seem to crawl up into the seal when installing the rear wheel and chew the rubber seal a bit. This time I made a shield out of .030 steel hoping it will stop the shim from...

H~E~L~P ... Need someone to get my 27 going ... I'm in Pasadena (CA) disabled, stuck & baffled ... Will pay for your time (& pizza too). Contact me here, on fb, or in private.

Problems:

1- Car starts, but does not continue running for more than a few seconds.

2- Car runs on Battery, Magneto is OK, but when switch to it, engine shuts off.

I enjoyed viewing the pictures of the Ford Model N / R that was recently sold in the classified section of the forum. I noticed the engine had two spark plugs per cylinder. Not being familiar with these cars, can someone explain to me how that works? Thank you.

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Greetings Model T Friends!!!

The time for the Winter Clinic in Kansas is fast approaching. It will be Saturday, January 25, 2020, at a NEW LOCATION this year. It will be held in Templeton Hall on the McPherson College campus, home of the world-famous McPherson College Automobile Restoration Program.

The main topic will be on the Montana 500....

Hey guys, having a weird issue with my LED headlights (one actually). The passenger's side keeps burning out. I think that it may be a wiring issue but would like to hear from some of the more experienced electrical guys on this one.

Info.

Car has a mag and battery but I run the headlamps off of a small 12v battery that is wired into the...

I recently bought a 30 x 3.5 demountable wheel with the intention of sending it off to be re-spoked. I have one front wheel with a slight wiggle and this was to be it's replacement. Awhile back I purchased a hub thread chaser from Snyders which I used successfully to clean up the threads on my other wheels. Even though the threads look good on the...

At the airport now and my 2017 FORUM ball cap is packed...

I thought I saw a reference within the last month with details of the meetup time and place but can't find it this morning.

Anything planned for 2019? Where and When?

Thanks.

Here is an auction going on today in Wilton, North Dakota, just north of Bismarck. Friend of mine called me to see why I wasn't there, told him there was no advertising anywhere that I had seen. Several nice T's, a 29 Nash, etc. + a nice line of retirement farm machinery.

On Thursday 3rd we laid my father to rest after his tragic death
But we gave him the best send off with taking him to his final rest spot on my 25 T 😊

Going thru some of Dads old car parts and came across
this frame and spring. They may not go together and
frame has center brace off center. Don’t need may
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Here is an auction going on today in Wilton, North Dakota, just north of Bismarck. Friend of mine called me to see why I wasn't there, told him there was no advertising anywhere that I had seen. Several nice T's, a 29 Nash, etc. + a nice line of retirement farm machinery.

I'll make my own forecast: As we get closer to the actual date this will change.
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Whatever the forecast, I'm bringing my straw hat and winter cap, my winter jammies and army blanket, and an umbrella.

Please PM me or email dlhort1955@juno.com.

In the last issue of the Vintage Ford, we were told there would be an application for the tour in the current issue. There isn't! How come?

Hi,
I’ve got a VIX Scientific Gas Saver. A google search turned up an expired auction for a sign.
I think this is likely to not actually work as well as advertised. I’m keeping it as a curiosity. I have never known it to be on T.
What do you think it’s worth?
What do you know about other similar devices?...

YES ITS TIME TO DRAIN THINGS,GARDEN HOSE, SHUT OFF THE OUT SIDE WATER SPOUT,OH YEA, CHECK THE DRAIN ON THE --T-- TWICE TO MAKE SHURE IT DIDN'T PLUG, RUN A WIRE UP IN AT LEAST TWICE TO MAKE SHURE. IF WATER WOULD JUST FREEZE AND LEAVE IT AT THAT,NO IT HAS TO SHOW ITS MIGHT BY EXPANDING TWICE ITS SIZE, IN THAT STATE IT WILL MOVE MOUNTAINS.

Hello all. I am a previous 24 touring owner and retired farmer who likes old cars. I found 24 touring close to home, 40 miles or so. I plan on hauling it on an open trailer. My question is,if I tow it at 40 mph with the top down,would this put too much strain on the windshield?

Thanks,John

First day should be my longest. Added 16 miles because I forgot my dentures 😝
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I did not get the Indiana sign too much traffic

I am looking for some of the old Dupont 99L Lacquer paint for my 1924 T. I painted it back in the early 80's and am now in need of some more paint for touch up. Any amount will do, opened or not opened.

Thanks

I've taken apart alot of transmissions, but I dont remember ever finding this many cracked discs. Can't imagine the heat it took to do this.

I have what appears to be a 1920 fordson F tractor,and was wondering about the color. Mine is orange and I didnt think this was a stock color but its hard to believe someone painted it because there is no other color underneath the orange and there is paint where it seems would have been difficult to get to. Also when looking at the vendors I see...

I found this in a stash of Model T tools I acquired from my aunt. It does not have the bent end that I have seen in Model T tool kits. This is flat with a 1/4 wide notch. Does anyone know what speedometer this is for?
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Why is there no mention of this swap meet? I'm going.
Church Parking Lot
2311 E. Chapman ave.
Fullerton ca.
Always been a good little swap meet for me!!
see ya in the AM

I'm trying to date a Low Head and found the term Fingerprint Head being used. Does having the fingerprint boss on the head in anyway help date them. This head I'm looking at has the fingerprint boss on the back, it has Ford script and Made in the USA
Does that in anyway help date it.
Thanks,
Scott

Check this out. There are 3 T's and a bunch of other interesting stuff. I have no affiliation....

'Sorry, Guys, but I have to post this question again. It got buried deep in my engine thread last week, so I guess no one saw it. I'm sure SOMEONE out there in Model T Land can answer it. I have a gut feel for the answer, but I'd like to run the question past Z head owners anyway.
We will be mounting the new Z head on my friend's T engine next...

Got this done, put it in a box, took it back out and took a couple photos of it. It is for a 1916 Cole. Rayfield M2V.

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Are the rear spring the same between Ts?
Will a small drum mount up to a set of springs that came off of '26/'27?
I am thinking that there is not any difference, but I have been wrong before.

I'll be conducting a speedometer seminar at the MTFCI Tent (RCM 24 & 25) at 4:00pm on Thursday, October 10. Everyone is invited and refreshments will be served. I'll be reviewing what to look for when purchasing a speedometer and what to pass on when a speedometer is found at a swap meet. I'll go over the various parts that are necessary for an...

I was looking at the pics of the Scandinavia bands on Lang’s website and noticed that there didn’t seem to be as dark with the tarry substance as they were a few years ago. I have Kevlar in my 24 Coupe and have been thinking of replacing the cotton bands in my 19 Runabout so I know about Kevlar.
Just wondering if they have improved the...

I've just fitted a Metzger Automatic windshield to my 1909 touring (Car #2436). Unfortunately this screen is missing it's Metzger Automatic brass tag. Langs list these tags in their catalogue, however they are currently out of stock Does anybody know where I'd be able to obtain one of these tags for my car ?

Found this Bosch type DU4 mod 2 magneto tonight in a barn scheduled for demolition soon. Is it the type for model T Ford?

This is ether going on my 21 or? Anyone know what it was off of? Yes it has a Model T spider on it. The lower bracket is adjustable so you can set the box and column at most any angel. The bearing surfaces are a bit worn but the teeth look good. It is a cross swing. The ball needs some loving but looks to be the same size as T.

This may be a dumb question but, I’m at the finishing stages of restoring a 1914 touring and would like to know where the ground wire from the battery was originally attached on the car. Was it bolted to the frame somewhere or directly to the engine and if so on what bolt? Lang’s does not sell the battery wires for a 1914 so I’m assuming I’ll just...

Yesterday, I was parking in a city parking garage and noticed the garage still has a few reserved sections for Compact cars, up front. Which of course got me to thinking: would my 21 Touring be classified as a compact car?
I know from driving the model t, that it has a smaller foot print on the road than most cars that pass me.
As I got looking...

I just installed a nice old stock New Day on my 27 Roadster. I wired it according to the instructions that came with the wiring harness but the color code is totally off from what's marked on the New Day. I believe I have the piston travel correct by watching through the spark plug hole and using a straw but as I turn the timer the coil starts...

6 years ago I posted the failure of my rear spring shackle. The photo became the poster boy for this style and it's problems. Several others mentioned their disappointments with them. I didn't want to be the complaining customer and have reported that even though I had bought some of the better shackles the 3 remaining shackles were in place and...

My open express has a 9 gallon oval tank under the front seat. I started it up today and ran it for about 5 minutes before it died. while it was running it ran somewhat rough and didn't want to run on magneto and was popping back a little and I couldn't find the sweet spot with spark and gas. switched back to battery engine still running rough...

I acquired this seat with a bunch of other Model T stuff in a lot. I was trying to identify it.

The bottom is about 34 inches wide and 18 inches deep. The back is about 34 inches wide and 24 inches tall.
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I assume...

Does it matter where the starter brush wires go? I seem to remember they should be crossed.

I'm preparing to overhaul my drive shaft, with the expectation of installing an adjustable modern drive shaft bearing assembly unless everything is miraculously in spec. It looks like there might be a few different choices between the different vendors, or maybe they just have different pictures of the same kit? I've looked at Chaffins, Langs,...

Earlier in the year I asked a question about applying sealant before I installed my top bows on a 26 coupe, Bob Booth answered and recommended a sealant made by Locktite but, I can't remember what it was and can't find the old message. If anyone would know wha to use let me know I'd appreciate it. Thanks

I pulled apart my spare torque tube and was encouraged by what I measured. The front bushing had been replaced and the clearance between it and the driveshaft was less than .001”. The shaft had .001” of wear compared to the adjacent diameter that was not in contact with the bushing so I suspect the bushing was reamed to fit. So far so good....

Hello grumpy old people that think money is more important than life.
Now what would be really controversial? An E-timer!

So I made my own. Just to make people mad.

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It's an arduino. That they use to teach programming to children.

And a few hall effect sensors, and MOSFETs.

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It runs, it...

What are you fellas running for 14mm plugs in any of the high compression heads currently available ?

Lets see if Chris's tutelege worked. A photo of Henrietta at Maryborough should appear here.

Last evening I was invited to a movie by none other than our webmaster Chris. I had been chatting to him on the rally about my difficulties posting from my phone, particularly being unable to attach photos. While we waited for the movie to start, he unloaded all the rubbish I had created trying to get on line, changed my password to something I...

These are from the national rally in Maryborough Queensland. We made a nice display in the historic wharf area.

A 1915 Duncan and Fraser built special tourer.

Propert bodied Fronty powered roadster.

Another shot of the very popular tucker truck.

We visited this country hotel for lunch one day.

I discovered this original box trailer on...

I have been fighting with the sediment bowl for a week now. Rebuilt and sandblasted the body, new pet cock, new gasket and filter mesh, reground smooth the on off valve and installed everything with fuel resistant ez turn lubricant and it still leaks. The wife is angry because of the gasoline smell and gives me grief. Are the new sediment bowls...

I am looking for ideas on how to clean a fuel line. Of course a 6 foot long pipe cleaner would be great but they don't make them that long. Looking for suggestions.

I have a model a aooga horn I want to use. What's the best way to knock it 12 down to 6? besides putting a 6v battery in.
thanks

I’m in need of 1911 closed door torpedo side curtain patterns. Any information would be appreciated.
meyre14t@yahoo.com

I am up against the clock. I am in the middle of a major building project plus a car sale, yet am committed to pull and deliver an engine to Hershey on the 9th. I need to remove the firewall and windshield, steering column, engine pans, radiator, headlights and floorboards before pulling the engine out. Realistically, how many hours should I...

Just got my copy of Sept-Oct issue of Vintage Ford in the mail. Read the info on the director candidates and thought to myself, how do you choose from such a great group of people. Don't see anybody that I would not want to see as a director and think any of them would be an asset. I don't know any of the candidates personally, but would like to...

I am sure that striping on the 1913 touring body has been discussed to death, but can someone refresh my memory as to whether striping was standard and what the patterns, stripe width and colors were. Maybe there's a link to the old forum with descriptions/pictures.

Looking forward to the MTFCA meeting next week at Hershey.

Thanks,

Charlie Bass

Just salvaged a driveshaft from an old rusty torque tube, had to heat the u joint and flail it a bunch to get it off. When I cleaned the shaft up, found that it had been magnetized. Anyone run into this before, guess at one time one of those junk yard magnets must have picked it up.

Here's an alternate Idea for closing the tailgate on a wood pick up box. It works great. Push the latches out to open and slam it to close.

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The new Led headlight bulbs being marketed for the model T. Make it possible to have daytime running lights without straining the Ts electrical system since the 55 watt equivalent Led bulb only draws 1 amp for the pair of headlights. and on low the draw is practically nothing but plenty bright for being seen. On Magneto cars a small deer feeder...

Has anyone made a comprehensive video for upholstering the replacement seat springs available through Langs/Snyders ? I just received a new seat and back rest. The only video I can find for reupholstering a seat is from a demonstration event and seems to be shot from off to the side. Is there an actual video tutorial? Also .. for the seat back?

Do you suppose that the RR is for Railroad or River Rouge?

Anyone thinking of bringing a '13-14 runabout to Hershey to sell? Just curious... asking for a friend.

Just thinking if taking a trip next year. No chase vehicle or modern iron. What do you pack and where do you stash it?

I needed a bolt today to attach the muffler to the frame for a 1915 I just bought. I found one, and I've seen this before too. First it has a rounded shank, as most early bolts do, and the hole is there for the cotter pin, but here is what I saw today, and have seen before too. There is a very, very slight notch on the top of the bolt head, all...

See the result video:

And the process details
(Sorry, Russian only - please use the Google site translator)

And the detailed link about the repair:

Thanks to everybody for the advices! And MTFCA for the guide book.

I just got a set of original Bennett small drum brakes. Problem is the levers were both cut off. What I am looking for is the distance from the mounting point on the shoe to the point where the cable/rod pull rod mounts. There is enough left that I can get angles/bends, so what I need is just point to point in a straight line.
Thanks

Gents, trying to figure out if my front spring perches are installed correctly on my 25 Roadster. Everything I read says to make sure the boss is on the backside. My boss is a short guy with a bad toupee and he aint nowhere around. So, a picture from the driver’s side front - correct or no?
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Should a 22 Roadster have a metal plate between the gas tank and the seat? The car we just bought does not have one. Or should we just replace it with a piece of plywood?

Good morning to all!

I am currently restoring a 1915 T touring. While attempting to acquire a restoreable set of headlights, I have noticed that most , if not all of them , seem to have a single deep gouge in the post. I am tempted to fill these gouges in with TIG weld, however, if they are the result of some sort of original factory adjusting...

I appologize as the photos I tried to post with this refuse to show unless listed afterwards as attachments. The forum error says they cannot read image dimensions.

I am finally starting work on the Omnibus. Up first is the Ruckstell I bought for it (see first attachment). Examining this all seems well, too much play in the shifter arm may...

I have not seen any notifications on this topic which usually precedes Hershey, so here goes. In reply, please add your Hershey info.
I will be at Chocolate South spaces CK-19 to CK-22, near light pole 63, with an assortment of T parts. Also, a pristine 1920 Coupe, with a KC Warford Layne Gearbox, distributor, many new parts, in excellent running...

Ever since I rebuilt my engine, I have had a problem with climbing steep hills. The car (26 with cowl tank) would sputter like it was running out of gas. This was especially noticeable with low RPM such as right after shifting gears, whenever I opened the throttle. If I backed off on the gas, it would run better. I have tried adjusting the float...

What are folks using for an inline gas filter on a 26-27 set up. Concerned about the close distance to the exhaust manifold if I mount a plastic filter under the shut off. Any photos would really help.
Another question comes to mind. I have gas seepage at the shut off coming from the front. I wound a piece of teflon string in place of the felt but...

Can someone please tell me if all the top irons on a 1910 Touring had the brass side curtain fasteners? And where exactly were they located? I'm assuming every iron had one but I'd like to be certain. Thanks!

My spaces are Cr33-38, lightpole 68 or look for this sign Our friends from down under know it means. Hope see you all there. Dan

I looked at this car today. I am wondering what it may be worth. I was asked to make an offer. The car was built in the late 70s. 1916 # engine electric start Ruxstell rear end rocky mountain brakes?, McLaren wire wheels. Owner says runs and drives great. The car has been parked for several years. I did not hear it run or drive it. Just curious...

Do you suppose the RR is for Railroad, or River Rouge Plant?

Do not know if I still have it but I had a mag coil ring that was a couple inches smaller diameter than one for a T. Bolt holes were different also. Any ideas ?
I may still have it packed away somewhere in a box.

The disc brakes are the size of mill wheels. The exhaust is unique. 12Volts with a dizzy, but coils are still there, just not connected. Check out that intake from the radiator. Went by Bob to get parts and he was closed. Must be getting ready for his big sale.
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I am in the process of rebuilding a set of Hassler shocks. I need a source for the bushing that are used in the Hasslers. They are an odd size it seems. What have others used as a replacement?

What can be done about worn pedals? I am changing the cams and supports, doing the o-ring trick but my pedals at the cams are worn.

Can the clutch pedal notch and support be changed without taking the hogshead off?

I am re-starting from this thread which has become too long: