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RE: License plate number and dating the car in the first photo.

The Minnesota motor vehicle registration ledgers for 1909 through 1914 are in the collections of the Minnesota Historical Society. Most but not all entries include the serial number.

The registrations were also published in Finance and Commerce of the Twin Cities which was and still...

Brent,
Restoration Supply out in Escondido California, had some made up that were able to be adjusted for timing.
I remember they weren't cheap but may be a solution for your problem,
Hope it helps,
Kevin

The best setup I have seen for a brake light switch is to us a momentary off (off when the button is pressed) combined with the earlier flat inspection cover. I believe an 80's GM switch is a good source. Mounting is done on the hoggshead where the switch is depressed when the pedal is all the way back. Once the pedal is moved the switch button is...

I agree with Wayne, replace all three gears, from the same set if you can get them. I'd also stick with the earlier 3 piece gears. There wider teeth spread the load better than the later one piece gears with the narrower teeth. Plus your drum shafts have been running the wider gears, so bedding in will likely be less noisy. If you re-bush...

Allan

Here is link to the patent so you can read the details, and use the patent drawing item numbers to understand the claims.

But generally the claim is the secondary channel or flame path to the thinned cylinder inside combustion chamber.

I rescued an early block which had been modified to take 1/2 head STUDS! I used Keyserts to repair all 15 holes. They come in three different wall thicknesses. They use standard size drills for tapping the holes in which they are to be fitted. They use a standard size tap to cut the threads used to fit them in the holes. An added bonus is the...

Amen Paul! C’mon Henry!

Thank you Craig L! That is what I thought, just wanted to be sure.
Not often I have another Wayne to get confused around?

Neat car! I am envious.

Norm ... Any progress on your generator problem?

I agree those look like 26-27 Ford accessory rear bumpers. Ford did not install any accessory at the factory but supplied them to the dealers for sale and installation. Ford bumpers were for the 26-27 Model T only. The improved Ford had the bumper mounting holes punched or drilled in the frame at the factory to allow easy installation at the...

Many thanks for these pictures, Bruce.

They are there to hold down the end of the windlace .... at least I think that's what I'm looking at.

You have solved one of the mysteries haunting this old car. Only 11.6 million more to go and I'll be on the road.

You're much appreciated,

Joe

I have several brochures from Grandpa's Dealership. These are probably from the late teens. You can't believe the prices considering the wages back then .

I think I saw you guys cooking lunch behind your cars.

Erik

Thanks for the correction on the year of that new like Ford as a 1917, my quick error. :(

Jeff

As for white and black wall tires, many types were made before 'all black' became more popularity accepted by car owners.

Some of these tires were still with gum rubber, and many tire mfg experimented with different fillers to reduce the...

Do not forget the 'Model T Club of Facebook' .... It is a much larger group.
Dave is correct. It's a much larger group. But the percentage of those who don't know which way is up is also higher than here. Yes, there are some legitimate experts. But they aren't online 24/7. There are times when I cut through the baloney by posting a link to this...

... jars and cans that... a LOT of people... can't even OPEN!!
Sometimes a pair of oil filter wrenches will do the job, if they aren't too small. :D

Fits inside the cowl, at the top. Near top of door. This is the short one for the right hand side. There is a longer version that fits on the left side. I would have to check years used but aprox 21-25 ish

Some memories last for decades. The road going into Virginia City from the south was so steep that a 1954 Plymouth and a 1955 Studebaker had to go in another way.

Warwick, I thought about one like that when I was 1st thinking of the carbon brush timer designs. That one is interesting also.

Couldn't agree more, Tim.

But, like most folks here on the forum, love to have it, but I'm a little short, in stature, cash, and room.

Not 'fer nuttin' but I'm Mike, the guy selling the car is Mark. Just wanted to clear that up. You see, I'm a stickler for names. After all, I've been called Spaz my entire life. :lol:

Sounds like a fun ride. I wonder how many still exist.

I just had mine redone by John in Cali. but i do need top bows for my 12

Just buy a jug of Thermocure. No guesswork involved. It was designed to do the job, just follow the directions.

Really, more important than how much , is why . Runout can be kind of normal, if not too extreme, (like much over 1/4 total side-to-side play). You really should do a little close inspection to figure why however. Some causes can be innocent, while others can be a symptom of what may become a worsening problem.

What style of wheel do you have?...

Scott, the tubes available do have correct OEM sized stems for a variety of cars, and there is a lot of hardware available to fit them. It is just that some purists would rather have the smaller diameter stems used by Ford.

The stem size does not bother me, even rubber ones, as Dill dust covers which screw onto the small valve cap thread will...

Mark, sent you a PM

Tom

I used the ECKLERS Model T Crankcase Outside Oil Line Kit Accessory, 1909-1925 - $49.99. Looks like the same one from the other suppliers but half the cost.

I got my Vintage Ford and also Model T Times today.

Russ, thanks, it helps a lot. Something like the Model 126 would fit very neatly.

The engine was missing from the car when Ken found it, but the stamped body numbers seem to read June 1915. Not much of a stretch past July, makes a lot of sense. The earliest less speedometer comment I found in Ford ads was from July 31, 1915. There was a brief...

Wish there was a camp near the center of US.
There is. I was planning to attend last year (late September) but fate intervened. Last year's session (first annual?) was at Nathanael Logsdon's place in southern Indiana. Linus Tremaine is pretty active in the antique camping scene. Maybe he would be willing to post some news about that here. I...

Tom, if all you need is a ball, the tie rod balls available from the vendors are the same size. I use them to replace the worn balls on early pitman arms.

Allan from down under.

Thanks for the heads up on the availability of the P-202 differential housing. I spoke to Dave at Chaffin’s today; he was very helpful, as always. He said they are trying to expedite a small batch of housings from their machine shop, and would have more definitive information tomorrow.

Thanks for the tips.

Your picture of the car being pulled from the barn says it all! Now that is a genuine barn find! Not a T that was restored 20-30 years ago but one that genuinely has never been touched when it was put in the barn. Thanks for sharing your wonderful ORIGINAL BARN FIND T !
And it’s remarkable that the top and windshield are still in great condition.

So today 4 of us just did one of our simple yet pleasurable picnic tours. Went to Lakeside park in Huron, right in front of where I spent 4 years as a kid ironically. Nice refreshing light lake breeze, toured well out SE of Berlin Hts area and returned back through Huron on way home but NOT without the obligatory ice cream stop! Also a short...

The 2 switches on the right could be for high/low beams.

A few years ago I had this one.
It was balanced as well.

Andre
Belgium

Conroe is very hit and miss. In general, very few Model T parts. It has become much more of a flea market post Covid. I’ve found some decent items over the years, but be prepared to wade through Lots of common SB350 & 4x4 stuff.

Further investigations show the Stratton advert only appears to have been placed the once in the Fordowner April 1918 issue and no further mention anywhere else was ever seen ??
Having viewed the ad as John commented You were supposed to pay them for that . Mr Stratton ( if he was the actual person asking for agents) no one would have been...

That's an impressive lineup! It's fascinating to see the evolution of car design over such a span of time. The Packard must really stand out next to the other two. And those high-quality mirrors sound like a smart upgrade for your vintage ride.

Thanks for all the input! I really appreciate being able to tap into the collective knowledge of you folks who have been there and done that.

Be careful about driving very far with them slightly dragging. It could heat up the hub enough that your axle grease softens to the point of escaping around the seal and making a royal mess inside your hub and dripping down your wheel. Don't ask me how I know.... ;)

Thanks for the advices.
I tried to measure the inside diameter of the axle housing. It was the standard size, about 2,21 inch. I hammered the bearing out with an old axle shaft. Modern Bearing is removed and housing is ready for original sleeve and Hyatt Bearing

To which e-mail, Steve?

This one, as stated in his post.
Only digital submissions accepted. Please email to calendar@modeltford.com

I need glasses. I even read the post several times and did not spot it! Thx. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ur welcome and been there too!!! :lol: :lol:

RE the adapter: I have to go check mine but pretty sure there is a spring that fits in the square hole that presses it away from the output shaft and helps keep it engaged with the tabbed part on the transmission but is not shown in above drawing.

Correct.

There is about a 3/8 hole in the drive square for a spring that would press against the...

It is comforting to see three 1914's with the horns mounted correctly!

I know what you mean! However, photo number two also appears to be a 1914, but with a louvered hood.

That number fourteen speedster, I wonder if they were going for the Beast of Turin? Or maybe a tall and narrow Great War airplane fuselage?
Wonderful speedster either way....

Hi Kevin,
As a young boy the Avanti was my first love up until I was ready to buy my first car, then affordable became my first love. I'm pretty sure I would
never find a Avanti for $35 :lol: I'm pretty sure I had every plastic model of the Avanti made @ least twice. I feel kind of bad that a set of Buffalo
wheels with tires is almost as far out...

That fella waitin fer directions to chugwater? Certainly looks fresh outta Kalamity Dick's trials &tribulations,

Thanks for posting the correct thread size! I couldn't find tap or a die in my stash!

Perhaps disassembly rather than assemble? Drive to rail yard, take apart and crate up?

That sounds reasonable. But I cannot imagine a circumstance where the cap would need to be filed .050”
Maybe over the course of many refits ?

Exactly. So IMHO, no reason for a rebuilder to 'defect' a rod due to a shaved cap.

Failures in babbitt in todays rebabiting jobs could be because of how todays Model T owners treat the T engines. The...

They move easier than the motorcycle ones I'm used to. I will try tightening up. I think looking up so high to them is something I have to get used to, I'm not that tall.

I always use the new ones in transmissions builds, especially if the customer requests a turbo or other modern lining clutch. They are not that expensive and good insurance.

I had a 1914 speedster with a spring like that or very similar. I really did not notice anything different than normal. But it was a light car. I think mine was a Longleaf brand.
After looking closer to your photo/ad I see the ad shows a double-set of springs. Mine was a single spring as shown in the photo above

That makes sense and is probably the right bar, but unfortunately, still only have one of them. Thanks for pointing that out, Frank.

It will certainly wear grooves in the tie rod where the coil springs rub. There is a better version which has a cast arm mounted to the axle at the front and extending back to the wishbone ball. Both are designed to solve a nonexistent problem. However, if you chuck away all but the cast arm of the better version, you do have a set-up which might...

Don’t worry about moving. Sold pending payment.

Definitely a great find. Is there any way to date them?

I can't say I have one, but I worked for a year in a machine shop that did. It was cleaned up and on display in the entry way to the office.

I tried to buy a Franklin about 10 years ago. It was registered and parked (legally) on a street in Framingham, MA. It had a For Sale sign on it but no address or telephone number. I left three notes on it - actually one note went in to the car, as the driver's side window was down a crack. I never got any response, so I decided that the so-called...

Thank you for your thoughts Keith and others. Craeg's carers brought him to our home for a day visit today, and he was able to see the display stand. I read him some of your comments from the forum and he was quite chuffed.

There is another with mainly T parts. I need a stand for it too. I am thinking this one will look about right on an axle...

Site just shows picture. Doesn't say its for sale. Doesn't give information on owner/ seller.

Interesting read. Thanks for posting

Like Bob said :roll:

Nice looker in number 4. I like the car too!

Allan from down under.

Dude, that could be someone’s grandmother…

Beautiful. Thanks for sharing and glad y'all had a good time. This is what it's all about!

The cowl is riveted in that area but I don’t recall how. I know it’s riveted to a metal bracket that is attached to the top drivers side false door wood. I cannot remember on the passenger side.

Constantine's previous post.

One thing often overlooked when removing magnets is keeping the triple gear pins in place. Magnets keep the pins from backing out. Now I personally have not had that happen, I have seen the results.
When ever I remove magnets for someone, I require installation on a retaining ring.

Dan,

I'm not saying that's not a valid concern, but I've got...

Gene,

Can someone post videos of the Hill Climb this Weekend? That sound like it will be super fun

Tim

What a great group of photos!

The issue is that there are at least two different makers of replacement pins, and BOTH are serviceable, one being slightly more pure in roundness than the other.

That said, let's stop for a moment and reflect. The original Ford design called for a 0.002 -0.003 interference fit between the raised pin area and the flywheel. So..yeah a purist...

Saw your group go by in the Huron area several times. Wish I could join you but my car is on the island.
John D.

Put it on the ferry and bring it home!! :lol: :lol:

The beach here is just a stones throw from the Florida Institute of Technology so the scenery can be mixed. Once in a while I take the T down to the beach and the ladies love it, Iv had to tell them to use a little judgment as the seats can get very hot against the missing insulation. From Nov to May the scenery matures greatly. My grandson came...

Looks like a nice T pickup!

I’m working kinda front to back so I haven’t done (re-done) the bed yet.

Before you make any changes, count and record the number of “clicks” each jet is from seated. This way you can put it back if you make things worse.

My experience is that they all miss and stumble a bit in low gear… unless you hammer it! Tool little load at too low an rpm with too much fuel. Heat riser may help to correct this. Popping out the...

Disconnect the rods & check your clutch linkage settings. The brake lever must stay all the way forward when driving or you risk burning/slipping the clutch. The rods act as too long. Since you added aftermarket brake shoes, it could be the lining is too thick not allowing enough cam lever free play.
If you didn't have to do a lot of grinding to...

Hi Rod,
That is a very interesting link. While I had found information on the Dunston and Coates efforts to create a rotary valve head, the PatRoVa and Bishop information is new to me.
Thank you for sharing!
Brian

A Gyptal painted crank spins faster, more speed :lol:

Gyptal crank .jpg

Oh...and Gyptal has been painted inside engine blocks for a very long time. ;)

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scroll to end of page 2 for some pictures.

Your approach is all wrong- that's not rust, its patina !!

Fire was very close. Evacuations came within a few blocks of us. CAL Fire did and excellent job and now all is well. Thank you for your concern. :)

Great to read and hear. The T hobby can't afford to lose you or your business.

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Steve: Sent you an email.

I have one of those fancy tire tools - still haven't figured out how it works !

Which tool? It appears that there are different pieces.

Looks like a hot climate like Texas. Other than World War I, I don’t believe there were any conflicts that would required such a heavily armed contingent of soldiers in the 1920’s. This could be an armed detachment of regulars preparing for an expedition into Mexico to get Pancho Villa in 1916 just prior to America’s entry into the Great War in...