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Jerry, so true.... the closest you can get to a time machine.

Luke, I am almost without words. I so appreciate what you did to bring the photo to life. Thank you so much!

Allen,

I am aware. As I stated in the first message I am going to wire wheels this winter. I only got the car going this past summer and basically drove around dialing in things. The front end alignment is one thing that I really want to get right. The wheels on the car now wobble quite a bit and at this time they will not be the long term...

I don't think they wanted anything reflective on field ambulances.

Allan, I would like to buy one.

There probably is not one even left in Canada.

Three of our local club members have Made in Canada cars.

There may be others interested in Canada or the USA.

It's a CPC Balanced Pressure steering box. The adjustment at the back pulls all the slop out. I have one on my Mercury Speedster.DSC05534.jpegIMG025.jpeg2 merd dec 07 001.jpegDSC08565.jpeg

Wow! You also have a Phoenix 3 in 1 front plate!

I have 2 Kingston L 4s and neither one has this.

I think the problem is in the generator. I have one similar except that when I first start it I polarize it but if I stop for gas or elsewhere and start up again it doesn't need to be polarized. In fact sometimes if I start driving after about a mile, the ammeter will show a charge!
Norm

It is not a windshield weather guard. 1909 and possibly 1910 model year T's did not come standard with a top or windshield. Some tops had an integral roll up windscreen curtain attached in case there was no windshield, but if a windshield was also installed then there could be both.

1909s and up to early 1910s could have both the windshield...

A bit more info

The world war 2 airplane museum , located right on the airport is well worth a visit. They have 29 ww2 airplanes in flying condition, and you can visit the restoration hanger as well. They also have a mail plane that Charles Lindbergh flew. Very well displayed.

The pennant hanging by the windshield appears to say Lake George, however I can't see all of it well enough to be sure.
Whether that helps any or not?
The car appears to be a 1915 or 1916 with later front fenders, and well used. The clothing styles are unusual, and appear to be much later than 1916. The one fellow might be wearing a swim suit with...

I missed the hose clamp when I looked. It may well have been fitted to mask a problem. The L linkage between the clutch shaft and the pedal can cause unnecessary load, especially if the eyes have been rebuilt and drilled back to size to neatly fit a new linkage. The pedal needs to move sideways when operated. A neatly fitted L linkage will not...

Will
I have a Howells sheet metal catalog #55 that I used a few years ago to order some T body parts. Maybe yours is newer or? And no Brent in Tennessee I’m no parts changer and a lot of posters that build a T aren’t either. It must be nice to be a self appointed Genius T parts builder. I don’t have a diploma on the wall that I printed and wrote...

Thanks Dan - the closed cab TT's used a bit longer ones than the cars did - I had straps made for the TT.

Until I get the carcass of my 1915 home, I can't commit to anything else. I haven't seen it since the wreck, but I suspect some important pieces are still usable. I still need to clear some storage space. My shop and the rest of the place look like they were stirred with a stick.

I won't use a motometer if you give it to me. I drive on country roads a lot, and I don't want that extra weight bouncing along on my radiator neck. Maybe that's why the thing was an aftermarket accessory.

Wow, thanks for the picture.

I’ve run grooved belts for years. I ran them grove side in and out. Does seem to make any difference on the smooth pulleys on a T. I run them fairly loose with great success. And the width doesn’t seem to matter either. Just my experience.

I am very pleased to see you add a few reminiscences Susanne! I enjoyed getting to know your dad way back then. He was really good with the announcing banter, and very supportive of our brand of lunacy.
The water truck, Lincoln tow truck, and motorcycle service-cycle he brought to the shows also added another layer of ambiance to the show.
I...

Looking at some larger or heavier parts on eBay and some sellers are charging more for s/h than the cost of the actual part. In some cases, over $100 for s/h. Wondering if this trend continues the smaller, regional swap meets might see some renewed interst? If the price of gas comes down a little, the shippers will not lower their rates and...

I think that's where the blue laws came from... :shock: :lol:

I had a progression I would use. Sometimes wiggle would work it free. Someone told me to put some synthetic motor oil on it, my car at the time ran 0W20 which (I found outlater) had anti-rust properties, so I mixed a batch of 50/50 0w20 synthetic and WDro in a spray bottle. If THAT...

#6 that driver is very short and possibly a couple of soldiers

I ended up with Poplar as that was the only wood of appropriate size at the local dimensional wood supplier. I’m sure it will stain up nice and I will use my West System coating. I used it on the painted side racks and worked well.

It’s less than 3 months away, March 01, u

Drats...did I loose 2 months again? I hate when that happens.

And, the Henry Ford museum is open year round. But, yes Edison's lab is on the grounds of the village. Wonder if that darn light bulb is still burning?

I don't know if this would work or not. Put in a TT cross shaft. Fab a spacer where it bolts to the frame, this would compensate for the difference in the height of the cam. In my mind it would lower the shaft between 1 and1 1/2 .

I would advise fabricating brackets near both ends. These engines vibrate so much, fatigue breaks will occur if you do not. Been there, done that.

Got it .. Thanks Bob and Allan. I fashioned 2 curved ribs to fit and already had some trim to tack to them. Looks better already :D

Thanks for the info.

Yes, that would make them bolts.

Paul

Okay then...

Some people object to Blockley tyres because they think the tread is incorrect for the Model T era.

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2023 Blockley (with a bad tube)

They are both real. The one on the left is later.

How are you aligning the bearing? Its a press fit to the housing just like the brass bushing, correct? The bushing can be pressed in enough to get the right axial shaft clearance and if its too tight, the bushing can be turned while in the housing. If the shaft end is greased, it should be fine for years. In the mean time, 100 things will fail on...

Our '14 has all matching JNO. Brown lights and the headlamps have the hinges outboard - I'm the 3rd owner but can't verify if the lamps were ever swapped.

Jonathan - I've been running an RF on my 1919 Rajo Speedster for several years now and it generally runs pretty well. Mine's in need of a rebuild, but as far as I can find, no one wants to work on these due to the materials used. I'm having an OF worked on for me now, as the RF is leaking a bit.

Hello,
I have always wondered why I could not use a rectifier/regulator from a riding lawn mower in my 1914 Model T. My riding mower engine puts out 30 volts AC and it goes into this little box and comes out 12V DC and it keeps the battery charged. My riding lawn mower has a lot more vibration and is a lot dustier than my car also. Why wouldn't...

Tom Moorehead,
In order to use dental floss, I drilled a hole in the washers and in the nuts before installation. Removal prior to drilling requires rags and and a lot of care.

Art Mirtes

Apparently that Eureka Country Club is still there, on Country Club Road, the area is much more wooded now and Streetview won't let me get up the drive :roll:

Herb I, I am fairly sure that your bracket was intended for use on TTs with no starter and therefore oil side and tail lamps. For what years? Certainly earlier than the Ford O tail lamps that began about 1925.
Were they Ford factory or aftermarket? Past discussions have argued both ways, and I don't recall any definitive decisions. As unusual as...

That is what I like! Nice catch on the spindles. Makes it an early 1911.
I am really hoping for someone familiar with the radiators to comment on whether it might be a Livingston or not? I cannot see the oval name badge on the radiator that a lot of Livingston radiators did have? However I don't think all of them had that?

Thank you Dan. The one in your picture is outside thread, as this one is internal, so there are at least two variations.
Always something new( to me).

You may only need to dry the box in an oven for an hour or so.

Replacing the wood with all the contacts on with a plastic one is still your lowest cost option.

Y’all are amazing. Thanks, I’ll let my friend know.
Kevin I don’t know if there are hubs but I’ll ask if he has some pictures.

Best John

Back to top. Been getting questions about this again.

I’m guessing a ‘17-‘22 roadster Vernon… Thanks for the video.

Yes, I got replacement 2 inch spring from Menards today for around $1 each. Much better

Chris, I feel for you. We had a similar escape from a rapidly traveling grass/crop/stubble fire heading straight for our farm and the native vegetation sanctuary we have spent years fencing and protecting. The fire was on a 3km front until a 90 degree wind change converted that to a 40km front which ran away from us.

Allan from down under.

Front thrusting this ground cam is a must. If not, the cam moves in & out.
The cam lobe eats away @ the cam bearing halves making a louder knock over time.

Thank you Pete,
Terry

That first photo is an interesting model T.
While the hood could have been easily replaced for any of a hundred reasons, it is also possible that the car might have left the factory that way.
It is generally believed that the factories generally tried to keep the two styles of cars separated and use the appropriate pieces for whatever was being...

The front cam bearing usually wears faster than the middle bearing or the rear bushing. If in doubt just replace with new babbited bearing shell.

Neal, you can make it yourself. If an electronic dummy like me can do it... :D

I imagine that I could Steve, but I really like now nice one that Fun Projects used to make looks. Within reason, I'd rather pay someone to make a nice one than make one myself!

Did you get your 21 demountable rim repaired with that part that I sent you?

I don't recall if my son used that or not. The wheel is done and on the car though.

No one here is a kid anymore...
It's all too common to be reminded of that by all the things I can't do anymore.
An old friend tells me the word I need to learn is acceptance .
I think a better term for it is resignation . :(

Steve, you are 100% correct. Had I listened to the dr's and people that thought they were so smart, I would be 350...

Thanks Dan, hex it will be. Jim

That's worth rubies...priceless...

Love the artwork on the 40's pic!

Very interesting! Thanks for the pictures

You really do not need a muffler. I have a friend and he and his son run straight pipes. Model T's do not make much noise.

A couple of years ago when I drove to Dearborn my muffler broke free. The bracket on the muffler where it connects to the frame snapped off. The exhaust pipe banging on the rear axle housing alerted me to the problem. The...

William, that is not supposed to be a thrust face. It just happens to wear that way Yours is worse than many i have seen. I have remedied the problem by fitting a washer between the can and the backing plate before fitting the arm. On another occasion I machined a spindle bolt bushing to fit the backing plate hole, leaving a shoulder on the bush...

I had to mill the sides of the extension until it was really thin in order to pull it off, but I got it!

Norman,
Thanks for sharing your experience. It is always important to hear the sacrifice that people made in war times. And hopefully we can avoid war in a more diplomatic way in the future. And to the point of cars, WWII caused a lot of Model T to be repurposed and recycled.

Matthew

Was the original glass and wood still in the car when you acquired it? Maybe use as a guide.

unfortunately I ripped it apart a year ago and thought I took pictures.... well I did not.

Elliptical spring conversion

And the T also had accessory elliptical front spring set for those who want the buggy bounce :D

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With that coil on the tester, it shows possibility of box contacts needing cleaning ,cushion spring needs tension, adjustment , points need cleaning, and lower vibrator needs tension adjusted. ...... Otherwise, the coil tester is a good working example.

WOW!!!! I just called Means Garage and they are sending me two Complete gasket sets for the Outrageous Price of $4.00 Each Set!! I know these only cost a few cents each at a local supply store.. What a great service!

There number is 417-754-8637 in Missouri

John, would you be able to elaborate on this statement “I change out the copper brush for carbon”? When I first got my T going Dave Huson told me about using a generator brush in place of the original material on the new day rotor. It seemed too soft to hold the retaining/alignment pin and the car ran well enough anyway, so I have never tried. No...

The diverter is spoken for!

I love the idea, sounds awesome!

I have two pieces that look good, but I'm missing a rotor.

One contact is missing.

The insulator looks gook but seems 3/16th inch thicker than it should be.

Were there ever rebuild kits sold for these Timers?

The brass cover has a nice patch job on it.

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When I hand built the cowl tank for my speedster I use only one baffle. It used to drum appreciably as the fuel level dropped< so i kept the tank topped up. When I had it out later to fix a miniscule weep on a welded seam, I added two rods between flat sections of the tank, welding them at each end to seal them. No more drumming then.

Allan from...

Erik,
Thank you. Corrected.
Here is a wiring diagram for the resistance unit:

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How long were the right angle headlight connectors used?
Were they on Rip Van Winkle?

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The T in the foreground is a Tourabout, the others are Tourings.

here is what has been posted;

Mark, thanks for the clarification. I knew I had no luck adjusting the tension but its good to know that just removing it will make the difference. I would like to retire the block of black foam under the dashboard knob.

Paul

Here is a link to an excellent youtube video of the event produced by Tour entrant, Anthony Marino.
It was a pleasure to meet you Tony and glad you took the effort to make a nice video of the event which is a nice memory for us.

Attach some 1/2 tubing to your shop vac. Works every time.

Eureka!! Now I understand about zeroing in on the back side! Took me a bit (and some explaining from Scott Conger) to think it through. I have cut tapers before, but this is the first time I have used a male taper to cut a female matching taper. It’s fun to learn something new, especially something that makes things simpler.

I think you are right. Time to look for the right part.
It might take awhile but we will find one.

Thanks for all the help and info

Agree that the holes aren’t original. Something was placed there way back when. Could be almost anything. There was a lot of aftermarket items made for T’s over the years of T production and after.

An interesting idea... But a good driver could do a better job, and I find it easy and convenient to use the fingertip control that Ford provided.

Must of been early AAA roadside service showing up with their own tools :lol:

Getting bulbs and competent service for automotive electric lights probably lagged in many areas.

All good suggestions. DHL seems to be $1300 for half a pallet shipped air. Quite reasonable actually

Jeff

7th picture: She must be one of those Fast Women I'm always reading about, but never seem to meet!

The man in that photo looks a lot like my great grandfather, but the woman not so much like my great grandmother. The photo is at their 50th wedding anniversary celebration in 1958.

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Greetings Canadians!
As an avid fan of CBC's Heartland, I was amazed when I saw the picture on the Foothills Model T Club Info page, taken at the CL Western Town film set near Calgary, with the Model T's parked out front. This same set was used in an episode of Heartland. Next week (9th Nov) I will be travelling to Sydney to meet Graham Wardle...

The dealership the car was purchased from.
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Retirement home for a 100 years
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If you still have babbitt thrust washers I've been told that the differential oil will sometimes show some gray material if you spread a little out on some white plastic or similar material. Likewise, shiny gold specs could indicate bronze bushings. Regardless, if you don't know, you need to find out.

Many thanks to all the responses concerning my request for solutions to bringing out a nice black finish to my original hard rubber ignition switch body. As a follow up, I took the suggestions of Brent T and Larry S and used a wax polish and it worked just fine!

The question of when this type of switch was replaced by the type with the steel...

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In the Winegar photo, (town is now known as Presque Isle.) the Model T with the trailer belonged to the town photographer. The building in the distance, slightly up on the hillside, was the Lumber Co.'s Superintendent's home. The town was Dry but did have some gambling machines in the bars. They have a great historical society, with such things as...

Thanks guys for the help. We split/cut the forward crease, hammered the triangular section over and welded it all back together. After cutting the crease and making the bends it was around the 5/8 mark at the bottom of the bed. When pulling the bottom of the bed back together to weld all the measurements lined up perfectly on the bottom rails for...