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I suspect the autobiography was done looking at the rosy haze of history of one of the most successful products ever... So making it sound like the business decisions of the T were in 1909 (months after the actual launch), in addition to the statement All Fords will be painted black is looking not at the actual events of 1906-1908 but after almost...

Thanks. After posting the image something made me double check the encyclopedia and, sure enough, I found that the color should be midnight blue. That's fixed.

It could also have been painted any non-standard colour for better contrast in black and white photos. Did you know the Addams family’s house was pink?

Thank you guys for the insights! Gonna be chasing a hi head at Hershey.

Promises to be another epic Great war movie, can't wait !

Witht he indents I'd say it's for a governor set-up, not a food feed... the indents change the operating speed. Probably missing a couple parts to pick up on the wins from a fan or etc...

Dan,
Thanks for your response! Very neat concept. I wonder how good they worked. Unfortunately I only have the one and no hub for the bearings.

Matt

Nice links Scott! Thanks for bringing them up. :)
I used Toon's re-lining notions and found them to be very good for me too!
Jed, I sat down with the fresh bands, in my chair, with another good drum on my lap.
I closed the gap with my hands and oh my! My bands were so very far from round! Yuck. High spots were all over. Nature of the beast or my...

David, I did the same thing with an old Cub Cadet...thing actually started, but the amp meter showed a discharge. :?:

I am trying to figure out what the pictures inside the front cover are. Maybe my glasses need adjusting for magnification.

Yes MTFCA Forum meeting.
Wednesday
2:00
Chocolate Field North
C4Q34-39

See earlier post in this thread with more details.

Another way to quiet a struck horn button..., shoot it!

John,I will keep him in mind.

John

There should be a decent supply of really good rear hubs. I did a production run about 20 years ago

Once again I'm mystified by a repro part that is not made to original spec. Why ?!? How much more would it cost to do it right ? Spring frames will bend even when they're steel. Aluminum sounds like sure failure sooner than later.

BTT

Brent if you posted it here in the classifieds, click on your name and open the user control panel. Scroll down to your april post, maybe something will jump out, like someone was interested in it. Unless it was payed for, could be they are no longer interested or no longer need it. Or check your PM's.

Would the Model A & B crankshaft also be 1/8 ?

I use Green Grease for everything greased on my Ts. See:

I have never seen this grease on any model T part that is greased before I use it so it is a good verification that I did it:) And assuming I cleaned everything prior to adding grease, it looks the same as the day I greased it.

I imagine people could argue one way or another for this...

Locktite between the axle and the shim worked for me. Don

If I was on the other side of the state I'd be there.

Sounds like 2 different and distinct issues causing 2 problems -

(1) - the car starting then dying after a few seconds sounds like a fuel issue. Make sure your sediment bulb isn't full of water / dirt / grit. (EZ to check on a '27 as its right there, not under the car). You may also have...

The two holes in the head casting were used to machine the the valve seats. When it left ford, each head had a closed plug in one and a spark plug plug in the other. Through time, many owners added a priming petcock in the solid plug. That makes a nice look now, lotsa brass. You don’t see this pictured example much, but it would allow a battery...

What year is Your car. Have the Led headlights been working or is this a new installation. on 1919-1927 cars one wire from each light should be going to dim terminals on the terminal block / switch. the other wire from each light to the ON terminals / switch. with the ground connection to the light can going to the car frame. If one socket wire is...

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The Stevens T-181 is the tool for this, but it's rare and usually expensive. I haven't made my own version yet, but I believe Andre in Belgium posted pictures of one he made.

Got it Keith, thanks.

Sorry to hear you can't make it this year.

Sounded like the big money from Bismarck and Grand Forks was there, probably no deals. Everybody in the country knows the guy they had the auction for.

Very nicely done. I’m sure he would have approved! Bless you and your family.

My wife and I plan on attending. It has been over 30 yrs. since I last attended. I remember the grass,mud and vendors getting stuck. Back then there was a lot of brass and early cars/parts for sale. Look forward to having fun.....will try and stay away from the so called Model T Gods as I'm there to have fun and enjoy the swap meet and R&M car...

Neither rain or sleet or snow ...

This issue (Sep/Oct) says it will be in the next issue. :D

Even though their open screens you're still adding an impediment to fuel/air flow. Can't see what good it'll do really.

I'll bet it's even odds Charlie. Flow is impeded, but the fuel is vaporized better. At moderate speeds the theory was that better fuel economy would result. Better performance ? Not so much. If it had been a marked...

We got down to near 40 last night...it’s coming !!
50/50 mix of green stuff in my radiator. I store in a cold garage, but just use pure gas and shut the tank off and drain the carburetor. I try to start it once a month or so and maybe throw the charger on for a night. I don’t use a trickle charger and my Federated battery (Deka) is going on 5...

I'm surprised it has a 3 dip pan. I thought the 4 dip came out in 1924. It looks like you are going to have a fun car.

Woke up today by Gun shots . Sounds like a war zone{duck or goose season]campground is on a lake.

Hibernia Restoration in NJ has what you need. They were able to match the lacquer I painted my car with in 1970 perfectly. They say they can ship to all 50 States.

My initial thought on those plates is they are “flexing” in operation going from flat to dished. The cracking appears to be
adjacent to the cut out on the outer plates. As suggested by others a possibility is catching on the drum and not sliding
I’m aware of some rebuilders who intentionally bend one or two plates into a dished form to give a...

Could it have been an industrial or State owned tractor. Many of those were painted in different colors, orange and yellow were popular. Just a WAG Dave

I believe an exact copy of that wrench was made a few years back. Don't remember anything more.

From Bruce's C-D info:

Cylinder Head

7-22-11 Added spotting boss to rear end
4-16-12 Added “Made in U.S.A.”
6-10-12 Added bosses between combustion chamber and water jacket
for 1/8” pipe taps on left side of head.
11-26-12 Removed 1/8” pipe taps for priming. Bosses remain.
7-17-14. Added 3/32 to bottom of head, increases all top to bottom...

Located in Sparta, Illinois.

I haven’t checked the comp. on my engine since I put the Z head on. Have over 1,000 miles on it and has really made difference in the hills. Drove to St. Louis, Mo. Last Friday on old Rt. 66. My for-dor is heavy but only in low once. Best money I spent on my 26 T. Improved my mileage also. Clyde.

The soft copper hue played across the chamber cover like gossamer's silken cord on a fall sun lit day. :)

The 1928 parts book listed the rear spring as the same 1909 to 1927;

The arc of the rear cross member was changed for 1926-27, it was taller to drop the body down. I mounted a big drum rear under my 21 without changing the spring with no issues. The only difference might be the number of leafs between body styles.

As I remember the original Scandinavia linings had a tighter and finer weave than their later ones. That was what made them better than the later ones. And looking at the other older brands such as Wards and a few others they were woven tighter also. I have some of those and 1 original Scandinavia lining and the weave is almost identical.
But...

Yeah but, that is the nice early version with the clips-cover (as opposed to screws) and brass base. Along about the great war, the cover changed and the base and ends were made of aluminum. These were original equipment on quite number of brass era cars and trucks, as well as after-market and are still popular replacements for many brass era cars...

Thanks for what it fits. The rust worms got to the outside of the shaft some, but being solid don't think will hurt it much. I will have to shorten it about 9-10 inches and will use the T mast jacket and rods.

Thanks for all the responses. I ended up running the ground wire along with the contactor harness and putting it on one of the front cover bolts near the contactor. I started the car for the first time today since rebuilding absolutely everything. Runs great!! Couldn’t be happier.

I need to find 1 of those spaces and park my 74 Lincoln in the spot long enough for a photo shoot! HEHEhe, 20 feet long.I don't think it is a compact!~ :lol:

Here’s a pic of the timer rod belt clearance on my 21 T Touring with the New Day timer. On my car it was a little tricky getting the timer rod to clear under the lower radiator outlet but it worked out with a little tweaking.

A block of wood under the spring eye is even faster.

It is all about Cv, or flow coefficient of your fuel system. Are you draining your tank through a fire hose or a syringe needle? They both have atmospheric pressure at the tank, but one will clearly starve the car of fuel. If you cannot guess which one, stop reading now.

Not all carburetors have the same Cv through the float valve from one brand...

Don’t think Ford had a ID tag like that at least for a T. Not sure for an A. In other words not Ford made. Just an opinion

Generator fields are crossed - not starter.

Guess if you have a supply of NOS or good original replacement parts, using them will be fine. For many that is not the case.

On a ‘26-‘27 “all steel body” (coupe or tudor); Use urethane caulk under the wood (wood to body, inside the “L” channel that holds the top wood). You want to seal the wood to the body so your headliner and panels don’t get wet in the rain or while washing the car. This is the same urethane that you would use to put a modern windshield in. I use 3M...

If my babbitt bushing is a later replacement...

These thirty-year-old NOS tires look brand new. These 90-year-old NOS cotton band linings look perfect. This NOS Babbitt thrust washer looks good to go.

Some materials are very stable for decades, or even centuries. Some are not.

Interesting stuff.

I had a look at your YouTube channel. Is that a Sachs rotary engine on your bicycle? I picked up one of those a few years back but haven’t worked out what to do with it.

Hi Burger, Got it!
Thanks,
Keith

....and it runs as sweet as it looks... :)

Keith

Years ago, after lapping/polishing the sediment bulb valve, I used bar soap on the valve.

It seals and lubricates and is not affected by gasoline.

No problems so far.

My father has done the same thing in the past on his Model T.

Bar soap is an old trick and everybody has a least one bar of soap in the house.......

Get a some steel cable, fray one end and pull/push (scrub) it through one end to the other. Flush it out with gas. A new line may be quicker and cheaper though.

I have used wire like Hank above. I have also used a resistor (see picture). Depending on the current draw resistance values may need to be changed. A voltage divider with equal value resistors would be problematic for something drawing a lot of current. If the Horn drives around 1 Amp at 6 volts, a one ohm series resistor will drop 6 volts. I had...

Depending on the year and condiont of the car
Usyaly i get engine out 2 hours by myself

. . . I’ve posted it a million times😊

And it's a pleasure to see it every time you do ! Thanks Darren !

Bob, I ran the shaft along my growler and presto, no more magnetism.

Thanks!!!!!

I had considered something like that and I have some like the ones you are showing but they just don't look right and also seem inadequate. I am thinking of trying to make a curved flat piece about 1/4 of a circle with a right angle bend on one end which would attach to the gate and slide through a yoke attached to the side of the bed. I tried...

Dave
In Canada all new vehicles have had DTRL since I believe 1990.
Older vehicles are “grandfathered” just like seat belts etc and don’t legally require them

When I did mine, the plywood compressor I used was about four inches all the way around bigger than the seat spring. I used two 2X4's for the bottom somewhat close to the edges of the spring to distribute the force more evenly.

I think if one were to look at a copy of the Ford Industries they would see how Large Ford was and brass tag Tool Checks are still easily found on E-Bay. Auto maker's still stamp tools such as make and dept. :D Bud.

There are usually some nice cars there. Wish I could make it.

If you go, please let me know if you see one that meets my specs:

I see they are calling for rain Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, so 4X4 might be a good idea in the parking lot .

Ahh you have tons of room, a buddy and I drove my speedster into Yosemite for Christmas. Yes, it was a bit cold. We had suitcases tied onto the back.

I do that trick myself, but never to original bolts. Maybe I was a mechanic in a previous life, when those bolts were just bolts?

Cheers, Bill

Thank you Mikhail G!

Thank you. While mine are original I think those measurements will work just fine.

The most important thing is to make sure that your front axle leans back per the diagram, providing the correct caster angle. :)

David,

I looked in the MTFCI Judging Guidelines 7th Edition and I did not see that part addressed.

I looked at: and Bruce has:

1921-1922
Generally similar to 1919 except as noted.

TOURING
A new body design with lower seats of much more comfortable design was announced on October 15, 1920, and is properly called a “1921” model. Rear quarter...

Brent B does make a very good point, and I agree with him! We all need to decide to what extent we want our antique automobiles restored to. The literal definition of restore is to return to a previous state or condition. That previous state of condition can be anything from absolutely new and just finished, or any general condition it attained...

Terry, love your profile picture

For this year, and possibly permanently, I have moved from the Red Field South to the Green Field, in spaces GBC 32-34. I will have my line of new parts, early coils and boxes along with their parts, top straps, new gas generators, and an assortment of original parts. In addition I will have some of my rewound magneto field coils. Didn't think I...

I had to do same as Dan did on mine. On another one it leaked about 3 inches up the leg with many minute holes in a 2 area, couldn't see them but I could feel the gasoline , covered area with epoxy & still running.

One that takes up very little space, Briggs and Stratton for a 18/20 hp.

Hank

Another person who has an original unrestored 1910 touring is Kim Dobbins in California.