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I just saw an advertisement for the show Strongest Man in History on History channel and next Wednesday’s show features them in Las Vegas lifting what looks like a 26-27 Green Model T roadster on a platform. Anyone on here knows who’s car it is?

They don’t have preview of next week on the site though. I watched it last night which was...

Took my car for a ride. Oil, water, and gas are good. Pulled up to the garage to put it away. She quit on me. I tried to crank her and she was in gear. Makes no sense, right? No matter where the brake lever is, she is in gear. Pushed her into the garage and now I have to start tearing her apart. Good thing I have another car, so I can still enjoy...

I have a overdrive or two speed model T rear end. It is built by the Starr transmission co. I consider it an overdrive Some call it at two speed. Any information about would be Great.

Thanks Mike

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Ok, this is the very first timer that Ford used on the Model T Fords, those known as the first 2500 ...it is probably a carry over from Model N, but was also used all through 1911 too. The interesting thing to note is that there was no bolt and strap that held this timer to the engine, the camshaft nut does. Notice the flange on the commutator,...

Hopefully, someone that has an original gas cap for 1924 could post a photo of what it looks like. I see a lot of different choices from the vendors and the Judging guidelines do not clearly specify either.

I bought my Fordor in 2014, and was just planning on just getting it running. Maybe some new tires and a new interior and a general going over to spruce it up. Well...Here it is 5 years later after taking it down to just the floor, replacing a lot of wood, complete engine overhaul, new transmission drums and bands, both front and rear axles gone...

I have a feeling I might get scolded for this...but here goes anyway....

I'm looking at the metal fuel line that goes from my new gas tank to my new (rebuilt) carb and I'm thinking that it might be prudent to cut a short section out of that fuel line somewhat near the tank, flare the ends and place a section of rubber fuel line there.

Yes, I...

I have had this annoying loud clatter on a light throttle - open or close the throttle and it shuts up. The large cam gear is a new aluminium item. Checking backlash, I can get a .007 feeler between the teeth. Is this my noise? Would a nylon gear quieten things down? Does anyone sell an oversize gear?

Someone is going to tell me to take the block...

I was reassembling a 1925 engine with a 4 dip oil pan. It was hard to put a few bolts in it but in a way I get them all in and tide.
Tried to turn the motor but it didn't turn any more. Looking for the reason I found that the oil pan was touching the coil ring and that the coil ring blocked the magnets on the flywheel.

Disassembled it and saw a...

Once upon a time, every British breakdown lorry had a Harvey Frost crane on the back - HF did lifting gear. I bought this HF Ford Jack at Beaulieu (our answer to Hershey) in September 1994. Thereby hangs a tale:-

I was just out of hospital after bypass surgery, forbidden to drive or lift anything, but determined to hang out with my mates on our...

Today I tried to install and adjust my New Day timer. First off I'd like to know if what I've done looks right, then I have a little problem to discuss and a possible solution if you agree.

Following info I found on this forum, I did the following:
1.Identified Cyl # 1
2.Turned the crank until the crank pin was in the 3:30 / 9:30 Position -...

I could swear that I saw a discussion recently about the details of a turn signal wiring diagram. I can't image that it would have been anywhere but here. Today, I was talking to a Model T friend with wiring problems and I told him I'd send him a link to that discussion. I can't find it. Did I dream it?

I'm doing research for a digital illustration to be set along the Erie Canal after the turn of the 20th century. It will feature several modes of transportation – canal boat, farm wagon, interurban car, etc. I'd like to include a Model T, either a Torpedo or Open Runabout, but I am having some trouble tracking down blueprints.

So far I've...

Clear Lake State Park
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I want to thank Mr. Robert Tate for his latest article for the Motor Cities National Heritage called, “The Ford Model T Was An Iconic Automobile.” It is a positive article about T’s. It has seven great Model T Ford advertisements from the 1920s see: Please don’t get wrapped around the axle that some of his dates for the advertisements appear off...

I'm about to install a cleaned up vintage APCO radius rod cap, with a new inner spring and cup, on my car.

Does the APCO unit need the two mounting springs like a stock cap does?

Years ago I read of a boy aged ten driving a Model T from Tulsa to New York city with his seven-year-old brother as passenger. I wonder if anybody here is familiar with the story. I've been trying to recall where I read it, but that was before this week, so of course I can't.

Well, it is 'T' related a little as I found this in a club members garage where we were inspecting his T Speedster project.

I believe this is a Buick engine, and 'man o man' I feel sorry for the chap who had the 'Bad Day' way back when:

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I had the opportunity to ride in the back seat of Forum Member Gil Fitzhugh's 1914 Touring on the Red Dirt Tour held on Prince Edward Island Canada. I can definitely say that there was no false advertising in the tour title. Here are a few photos of the week. 20190719_071535.jpg

I got my 27 TT out for the second time this weekend. Wow do I need to practice driving it. Fortunately I have a parking lot to practice in. I start out fine and travel along just fine however my stops or not so graceful. I cannot stop with killing the engine. I am pushing halfway down on the far left pedal and all the way down on the right pedal...

Looking to learn if this body is actually a early 26 Roadster PU body. It had a pickup box on it, seller wouldn’t part with the pickup box. Only sold this body, no holes in back of quarter panels for Turtle Deck.

I want to contact Keith Gumbinger before he comes to Australia for the National Tour in Maryborough, but since the new forum site has been set up, I cannot get a contact through to him. Anyone have his email address, or am I out of order even asking?

Allan from down under.

For years I fitted the seals supplied by the vendors and we all know that the have too smaller OD and need to be glued/sealed in place.
So the million dollar question is, why have we been putting up with them when I simply walked into our local bearing store and bought the right size to fit in??

Anyone thinking about going? I was the only T there last year. 400+ vehicles. Nice field with a pavilion for shade. Food and live band. And if your into trophies, they had a huge table full of them.

The local weekly newspaper learned the our T will be 100 years old on July 30 and wanted to do a story about it.
They called me this morning and we setup an appointment at 2:30 today.

I took the T out of the garage, gave them hard and electronic copies paper that gives all of its history with pictures, and talked about the T, Henry Ford, and the...

I have picked up my Rapid Hand Hoist from the sandblaster. The frame and dump bed cleaned up really nice. I have a little metal work to do before I paint the bed black.
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I just tried to install a gooseneck for my spare tire on my 1920 touring. The holes in the gooseneck do not line up with the U-bolts. Since the U-bolts fit in the crossmember I cannot move them outwards. I assumed the cross members would be about the same. Should not assume things.

Any suggestions? If you did it on your car, do you have a photo...

Does anyone know if Larry Rose at Moonshine County Horns is still in business ? He has not answered my email and I called the number on his card and get a recording the number is not available

His first car is the pick-up....

I’ve noticed of late that my timing lever won’t stay put when I drive. It continuously slips upward, costing me power - unless I hold it in place. But I need my hands for the steering wheel and throttle, so holding that timing lever isn’t very convenient. Any tips or ideas on how best to keep that lever put? Thanks in advance.

I've been a huge fan of Time Saver for years. Today I found another use. Timing gears. When I got a newly babbitted block back from the rebuilder and installed the crank and cam with the timing gears installed, it was was evident the gears were too close. They were binding a bit making marks on the large time gear. I tried a number of other timing...

I bought my 27 touring a year ago and havn’t had a moments peace yet. Being new to model T’s the car seemed pretty good but immediately the problems started. I have gone from front to back diagnosing and solving problems, with the help of the ford service manual, a couple of great local T guys and the MTFCA forum. The car had a terrible vibration...

The pinstriped front axle is on my '11 Touring. Note how there are no holes for pop-in oilers, AND how the bottom leaf IS tapered.

The other pictures are of an axle I bought a couple of years ago. It has holes for the pop-in oilers, AND the bottom leaf is NOT tapered.

I'm building a '12; should I buy a new axle just like the one on my '11, or...

In an earlier post, those that responded told me pretty clearly, You have to remove the body of an '11 Touring in order to remove and replace the fuel tank.

Before I undertake that project, I'd like to give cleaning the tank (without removing the body) another try.

My idea is to fill the tank with an appropriate cleaner, then agitate it with a...

Just seeing if I can post a topic. My not so smart phone is giving me grief, and I use it whenever I want to post photos.

Allan from down under.

Just wondering. Is there any help for braking power for my '25? Linkage set, band adjusted but really have to apply a lot of force to slow to a stop. I anticipate a stop well in advance, use low speed compression before braking. What, if any other considerations are there? I've heard good and bad about Rocky Mountain brakes and would invest in...

I saw the photos of the first day Montana 500 T's. Were there others or did I miss them?

Does anyone out there know anything about an aftermarket ECCO carburetor? Looks a lot like a U&J, but has a mixing control similar to an early Kingston controlled by a rod through the dash. Thanks : Bruce

I can try to get the wires attached in the horn button, although their is not much space to attach the wires to their posts.

Cn anyone show an easie wAY to get this to work. attaching to the horn nd batery is simply straight forwrd, but then trying to get the horn bottun functuioning propabiy need some trining. Doues nyone have short video o step...

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Only trouble New day timer.

Today, after ten years of operation, I decided to grease my speedometer chain. First of all, it was almost as clean, and well lubricated as when I put it in, but I thought I'd try something new. I fed the chain in one link at a time, hoping it would come out the other end. It didn't, and I had to remove the whole cable. What happens is the chain...

and into gear. This makes cranking virtually impossible. Starting is only
accomplished by depressing the clutch pedal. What adjustments are needed to
prevent this ?

Is there a certain sealer that should be used to prevent gas drippings when mating brass fittings to sediment bulbs? I'm sure any kind of plumbers tape would simply dissolve.

Dad bought our steel-cab stake-bed TT in 1942. It is to eventually be inherited by my family, then on to an enthused Grandson, and is to stay beyond him with our family. This past Sunday afternoon gave me a glimpse into that future, providing a hint of promise that the TT will flourish.
My Grandson came to work on the truck, bringing along one of...

Last weekend I installed a new (old stock) radiator on my 27 Tudor. Install went well and I took the opportunity to upgrade a few parts on my fan as well. I also removed the water pump that someone had installed on my T and went back to the stock pipe system. Driving the car several times since then, I have noticed some noises coming from my...

There is nothing that runs like one of these! They came in a variety of sizes for different racing engines. Ed Winfield worked for Miller before he went on his own building his carburetors. They were similar but the Miller is a lot simpler and probably IMHO better adapted to T's.

Notice the Master manifold. I have only seen one other of those,...

Thought I'd share these unusual parts.
Pulled the Sept. 1922 engine out of my 1915 cut down touring today. This car is nice and cobbled together, a real farmer's special.

Two interesting items or accessories of note on the car are the two different 'Crank case repair arms' used in place of the riveted rear engine mounts. The original engine...

What is the Ford way to route the headlight wiring on a 1920 roadster? We have a separate harness for left and right sides.

My new tools
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I have a 26 coupe. Does anyone use any kind of sealer between the rubber gasket and the body metal? Also the qtr window I've tried so far doesn't make an even contact all around. I've cleaned the channel well so there isn't any junk in it but it still isn't making good contact. Any suggestions
Thanks

Has any one researched what kind of steel is used in the magnets for the alternator on the model T? It would be interesting to try to make one. Your input would be appreciated. Thanks Jim

Tinkering in the shop this morning before it got hot. Picked up some tools from Tim Morsher to aid in the process. 1867 pat. Date. After study of said apperatus, I grabed some scrap metal and started playing. Before I knew what happened the morning was gone! Tim didnt send the instruction manuel? :D

The scrap I used was a tad thicker than what...

I came across this Hagerty video on PreWarCar, it's a must see video IMHO
and just a little OT but i think most forum members will love it !

(Hope this link works)
Enjoy !

I finally figured out how to get this U&J to perform as expected. I tried adjusting the needle on the bottom but if I gave it too much gas the engine sputtered. If turned it the other direction the slightest there was not enough gas. The tolerance was so touchy and I couldn’t get it right no matter what I did. Don’t know if it’s the modern...

I am changing wheels on one of my cars. I’m going to change the front wheel bearings. One of the outer races is worn thin and there is not enough “ledge” to get behind to knock it out. I am looking for ideas before I try my “untested” idea. Thanks!

For me, it's been a lousy year and a half of no Model T-ing. A third ruptured lumbar disc in April of '18 and subsequent fourth spine surgery in February pretty much took me out of the game. After some months of recovery and having clawed my way back into the cockpit, I discovered that leaning forward to operate the parking brake handle is no...

I was thinking, we often post pix of our latest iron...anyone want to (or dare to) share a picture of their first Look what I brought Home?

Add the year you got it too.....maybe a little story too?

Here's me 1979...40 years ago now...geez

It only went for a mile at a time, I scraped all of that yellow off with a broken glass bottle. Still own...

I was wondering if anyone could tell me what the two different stamp marks stood for on my 1910 hogshead? The one sure appears to be P.P., and the other is clearly an H. Any ideas??? 20190727_153016.jpg 20190727_153002.jpg

did model t come with tool kit

Hello, I am now the proud owner of a 1915 Model T Touring car.
Love the car and its in great running condition, give or take a few minor issues.
I was hoping to get help or guidance on paint scratches and chips. The car is black but i do not know if its original or not. Looks original. Has anyone tried to use paint chip repair applicators and if...

Testing to see if I figureed out how put up a pic...

I KNOW THERE MUST AN AGGREGATE NORTH OH 25000 YEARS OF COMBINED MODEL T EXPERIENCE OUT THERE., SO IM' SURE SOMEBODY CAN HELP ME ON THIS.
I WANT TO PUT STOP TURN & RUNNING LITES ON MY T. SO I BOUGHT THE FRED HOUSTON MTFCA T TIPS CD 7-4 MODEL T SAFETY PART 1. THEN I BOUGHT THE LED LITES, THE TURN SWITCH THE BBAKE LITE SWITCH & BLINKER RELAY. IT...

I need help contacting a member in Cedar Rapids, Iowa.
His name is John Williams and he goes by tman12 on this forum.
His email is now bouncing and I need to contact him urgently.
If anyone has an address or phone number, I would be very grateful.
Thanks.

I was somewhat delayed posting due to the forum problems, so we’ll have to rely on my feeble memory.
Tuesday was sign in day and opening banquet. Wednesday was the first Touring day and we drove about 100 miles out to Pompey’s Pillar. It is located about 50 miles east of the town on the Yellowstone River. It was signed by Clark of Lewis and Clark...

Continuing saga of the Center Door

I had no idea what the spring bottom looked like as it was not present with the car when I got it.

So...I fudged it.

Two days ago a friend who parlayed his Vietnam crew chief experience into a lifelong job repairing helicopters found that he no longer had any slow speed. Removing the floorboards revealed that the slow speed pedal turned on the shaft a bit, but then caught and would engage the band when fully depressed, very depressing! With hogshead removed we...

Is this black and brass E & J tail light correct for a 1913 T?

Thanks,
Gene

I have had a 27 T for over 50 years. When we first got the car, I noticed that it would run noticeably smoother and have more power when switched over to mag. Over the years, everything on the car has been rebuilt-motor, trans, electrical system, etc. At some point it started running as well on battery as it does on mag. Is this normal for a car...

The maroon fordor I restored last year made the big time. Will be featured in the Model T Times . Congratulations Dave McPike !!

My Dad left me with about 5 T camshafts, all in numbered Iskenderian boxes but otherwise unlabeled. I want to know which cam has which grind. I have V blocks, a dial indicator, and I'm pretty sure there's a degree wheel somewhere. What do I do from there?

Thanks!

I know there is not much to go on here, but does anyone have any input on this T? Any obvious red flags? Asking price is pretty high, but seller does say they are open to serious offers.

I have a KR Wilson Mag Tester that I've never used. It has 2 lead wires...1 on each side of the meter. Does anyone know which side attaches to the Mag post ? I assume the other is a ground ? There are no markings to identify which wire go's where.

Below is a link to odds and ends collected over the years for anyone interested. The file includes information about Henry Ford’s first automobile company endeavor, the Detroit Automobile Company, founded in 1899. Included is an 1899news story in which the reporter gives first hand impressions while riding in one of the DAC automobiles, with Henry...

I’ve had two bad kickbacks from the 1910 Ford racer, and one from the K so far this year. So far, the K’s bite is worse.....

Due to the large motor (406 cu in), I have to grab the crank in both hands, and essentially perform a deadlift motion:

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Unfortunately, that leaves four limbs exposed when they...

Hello everyone,

My 15 touring has what seems to be a slipping problem in high gear, which has been there ever since I got it. The symptoms include a complete lack of power in high and a lurching motion that occurs when climbing even the slightest of hills (1% grade or less). High works alright on flat ground and just fine going down hill. Low...

I have an old Bosch distributor on my 20 T. I believe it is the 600 series. I am looking for a set of points and condenser for it. The condenser is kidney shaped with a stud that goes thru the wall of the distributor to hold it in place. If anyone knows what the part numbers are and where I can purchase them I would appreciate it. Thanks

ZINK MOTOR CO began business in 1916 selling Ford Modet Ts and remains a Ford dealer today. ZINK's building itself was designed by Ford Motor Co and remains as it was back in the day. This past June 13th the owners held a special early Ford meet which drew cars from early T's to a pristine 1932 Cabriolet. Among the vehicles was an original 1919 TT...

I had a guy contact me today to work on his T. He said it was idling in his garage and heard a horrible nouse from transmision. It killed the engine. The car will start with wheels off the ground and its in gear. He said peddles work as they should. If he applies the E brake it kills the engine. He took the inspection cover off and bands and...

Just picked up a T wood steering wheel. It has the grooves all around the inside diameter for finger placements and is in great shape. A couple of the joints are slightly loose. Enough where you can feel them wiggle. I know if this issue isn't addressed, it will become much worse. There are brads throughout the wheel helping to hold the wood...

I picked up some 26-7 parts today and among them was a complete greasy motor and transmission assembly. The casting dates are as follows. Keep in mind that these are Canadian sourced.

Engine casting date 11/10/D, where D represents 1926.
Cylinder head casting date 11/11/D
Transmission cover casting date 12/2/D

It would appear that things were...

I am putting together a order to make a run of;
1. 1/2” thick aluminum test plates that facilitate leak testing the T block and heads prior to assembly (or prior to doing ANY work). They will run about $150.00
2. Neoprene reuseable head gasgets for the same testing process. About $50.00

The KW coil box pictured was found in the back seat of a 1913 Ford Touring. The box shows traces of red paint on the front.
It does not appear to be repainted.
All the boxes I’ve seen have black and gold graphics.
Can someone identify the year of the KW box pictured?

Thank you,
Gene

Since the new ISP wondering if you are able to read the forum. I am using my IPad to be PC and have not used a real PC. Give me a call or answer this post....
Happy days everyone.

Anyone know of model T owners or vintage car collections in Sicily. My wife and I are teaching a photography workshop here for the next several days but we have the weekends off to explore.

I am mounting my rear fenders on my '26 T and need to dbl-check that they are 5/16 24 bolts? I think there are 4 on each side that bolt the fender to the body. If so, is that a common size for big box retailers to carry?

Thanks,
Jim