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Thanks, folks. Wayne, I know how it goes about too many projects. I have restored 7 Model A's and T's, and each one gets a little better in quality. I had two Model A's that were unrestored as of course I planned to get to them , but time passes by too quickly. Now I am 68 and finding I have to pick my battles, I can't do everything. So I sold the...

See this thread for more examples of this guy trying to scam forum members:

He's been banned. Problem solved.

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1910 - 1911 Pierce-Racine/ Case 30Hp Fore-Door Torpedo

Manufacturer :
1904 - 1910 Pierce Engine Co. - Racine, Wisconsin.
1910 - 1927 J.I. Case Threshing Machine Co.

Tail lamp appears to be a stock Ford electric - bracket apparently some aftermarket accessory - WAG !

Just happy to know that you are okay!

Kerry (Frank v E) hits the main point. The style change made at that point is often debated about the year model of cars made in the latter part of 1923. And, the coupe is the worst of the lot because of its significant and early changes. Some areas of the assembly process began producing 1924 style cars earlier than others. And the new style...

I would love to see any of his paintings/sketches printed on Tee shirts! Would make a great collector series

Bryant

Here's a link to a video of my most favourite trip ever. My son was along for the ride and made this video of our trip into the high mountain country. It features some spectacular scenery, great Model T roads and is a wonderful memory for me and the other friend's in T's that enjoyed it together.

We have a very similar show going on in Mt Pleasant, IA this weekend. Last year there were a number of T's and they even had the timed T build.

1905 Queen 16-18Hp Model E Touring

Wheelbase : 84 inches

Manufacturer : 1904 - 1906 C.H. Blomstrom Motor Co. - Detroit, Michigan.

If you have a steep hill nearby, try going down the hill on compression, in low gear or Ruckstell with the throttle closed. Then when you get to the bottom, open the throttle. If you get a lot of blue smoke out of the exhaust, it is oil burning. That is an indication of worn piston rings. Or sometimes the gap at the end of the rings is not...

Is there really such a thing as a one piece wheel rim ? The problem of steam-bending a single piece to meet accurately in a finger joint boggles my mind !! I would love to know how that was done !!

Meanwhile, I replaced the badly worn column in my T with a very original and lightly used 1914 unit (thanks to Tom Rootleib). As the spider from the...

I did some searches also about the Raven finish. Ford and others used the Raven color on several car models in the 50’s and onward. It’s a shade of black among other black shades it turns out is still used occasionally. Not trying to change the subject but as the major colors used on autos they have LOTS of different shades and black is no...

Yeah James, Watchdog will take those rebuilt plastic case coils off your hands for a reduced price..... The plastic coils that I rebuilt and calibrated are still running in friend's Model t's with no problem....... Haven't burned out yet, and probably won't.

Well, the AACA pushed the deadline to today! Last day to register. So easy now online if you are already a member. My dad and I will both be in class 10B non-judged with our 1916 and 1915 Ts respectively. My brother will have his 1923 T in its class too. He will be going for his first senior award, having recieved 1st and 2nd Junior in prior...

And THANK YOU to EVERYONE who supplied information for me! Each little tidbit helps., and that is why these forums are so valuable!

The T in first pic is warm, it may be running, the snow is melted off the hood and firewall. Horse standing in knee-deep snow, model T in 2 foot drift, what great weather! Thanks for posting, jb

Be sure to account for the car bouncing while being trailered and allow for it with internal ceiling height.

Mine's an enclosed Integrity made in Pennsylvania, but I bought it in Massachusetts from a dealer. I'm happy with it.

Bill Squires is the go to guy for auto hauling. He does what He says He will do. When He says He will do it. For a fair price You pay when the car is delivered. No up front money. No Hocus Pocus on delivery schedule. If He says it will be at Your delivery address on a certain date. You can rest assured it will be there. Bill Shown in photo...

Jay Leno referred to them as Mennonite Ts as some Mennonites could own cars as long as they were “plain Jane” as they weren’t allowed to have anything “flashy” or that would draw attention to themselves

Thank you Dave!
That raises another question in my mind. When was the change made to the 1912 style trans cover. It was certainly after Ford changed fron the narrow to the wide one piece pan. Im thinking that chage occured maybe Feb or Mar of 1911. All that tells me the later style transmission cover was introduced after the 4 flat slow speed was...

Yes; that’s what I want to explore for production. Only I won’t use the ‘eyelets’ welded to pipe. I’ve cut off the ball end of the later plentiful wishbones and plugged them into the 3 pc bronze system. The only somewhat difficult process is grinding the 2 under axle pieces down from over 3/8” to a little under 1/4”. This enables the earlier perch...

I bought a set from Lang's.

Here is one solution to the birds in your car

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Ohhhh Perry!! Well it is cute especially how we know your humor!

But that ain't gonna happen on my watch!!

;) :lol:

The pictures didn't get added to my previous post - sorry about that.

Here's the original block and the measured location ..

Never ran a NH except for a short while while my Holly G got rebuilt my Cory Walker. Which ran great just not as smooth through the entire RPM. Definitely better acceleration and more oomph on the hills then the G.

First, there are no numbers stamped on the frame rail.
Second, both upper and lower door hinges on the passenger side measure 1.75 . Provided the car is not a put together , it's a '25. Right?
My goal is not to prove the year the car was manufactured, I have a PA title from the previous owner stating it's a 1925 model. I'm just attempting to find...

I’m with Steve. You can over think the timing. I set #1 at Top Dead Center then adjust the rod so the coil buzzes 2-3 notches down. You can go more if you want. The spark lever will pull in more advance than you’ll ever need.

Yep me too. This is how John Regan taught me. I call it the 9:30-3:30 method and man it's got Clara my '13 to start so...

A few more work vehicles

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More info on the Franklin Box
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However this looks similar to the one in Tyrone's car but not the same
Its a Schroeder box

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You can't make a new car out of used parts well not really true, the TD2000 was factory built with a Nissan engine, when Nissan could no longer supply, they opted to fit reconditioned engines, and when the company sold out to a Malaysian company, they used new Toyota running gear. Screenshot (257).png

Cool little thing. What will it sell for - any guesses?

Half the price of a full size one?

The box on the right is a 1912 Heinze box with the coils arranged in mismatched fashion. The earlier Heinze coils in 1911 used a separate post to ground the top, and had combinations of more screws to hold the tops down. The Heinze company must have been a favorite of whoever was selling blueprint supplies to them, because the designs changed...

The later Ford band ratchet tool included the 15/16 end opposite the ratchet end - great tool !

There has been confusion on the correct battery cable size. 6. Volt systems use a 2/0 size copper cable. It is thick enough to properly carry the amperage needed for a strong starter. 12. Volt systems may use a number two size battery cable which is smaller in diameter and is able to carry less amperage. When used on 6-volt systems, problems will...

Allan, Frankly, I think that you are being too kind merely calling the miscreant a mongrel . However, as I am a generally polite individual, and this is a family oriented website? I won't use the language I would truly consider them to be.
Sadly, that sort of thing happens way too often. I, and many friends of mine, have over the years lost a few...

By products of acetylene are carbon (soot) and water. Clean the basket every use too.

Previous post with caution

By Peter Kable on Tuesday, December 23, 2014 - 06:53 pm:
Don't use propane,

A guy here tried it years ago on his Model T. not only was the light produced terrible it melted the brass chimneys of both headlights.

I made my own from a swap meet socket ( Harbor Freight ) Cut six flats out with a die grinder & cutoff wheel, turn , heat & press a sleeve on
to strengthen the two flats. Works with a impact if stuck real bad. IMG_2465 (1).jpg
Craig.

The Price List of Parts don't have that series of numbers in either T, TT or Fordson parts listings, including Canadian export price lists.

A search of Factory Numbers did find two, 1629 ( price part # T-3604) Bolt, 5/16 x 20, 2 L, and the 1884 , Starter armature shaft (but no price part #). However, a dealer wouldn't use Factory Number , would...

Here is a photo of the same wheels on a 1926 Pickup from another post here. This photo looks to be taken in Africa. All evidence suggests the were available mostly outside USA and possibly manufactured in the UK.

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Dan,
Here is the June 1927, parts manual. It shows part number S-489-B, Throttle control rod lever. If you look at part number S-488-B you will see the rod assembled with the lever on the left end. This rod goes from the dash on the tractor along the top of the engine to the carburetor or vaporizer. The operator control for the throttle is mounted...

The pictured cans are like the ones I bought for $2 and $3 at auction. Yes they were made for cars larger than a Model T, but the price was perfect and they work just fine. I made a carrier that clamps on the running board and doesn't require drilling any holes.

Pic #11, of the dealer for Seiberling Tires...Seiberling was one of, if not THE best, tire on the market back in it's heyday. My Grandmother's tire store in Marion OH sold them, not being biased (no pun intended...they were bias ply tires!), but once she sold dad a set..yeh, sold..ha ha...it was totally amazing how smooth they rolled. They were...

Many years ago, Stan Howe posted the following on this forum:

STEWARDSHIP

“On a serious note, we are all just stewards of these cars. Somebody owned them before we did, somebody will own them after we are gone. The money that we pay for them or the money that we take for them is just a way to determine who will steward what car and for how...

At half the price,worth the risk of lesser mileage and they will look so nice on the 13 .

I'll second Craig's recommendation and polishing by machine. You must NEVER buff in any direction but AWAY from an edge. It is too easy for an edge to catch on a buffing wheel and damage your brass beyond repair as it flings away, or takes the tip of your thumb off down to the bone. I was being careful polishing a brass headlight rim for nickel...

Hi Corey,
If the Babbitt in the block is good & the crank is true then YES replace it with a re-Babbitted or a very good used one. That looks kind of hokey.
It may have been installed because of a center main issue rather than a preventative measure. So check the bearings close.
Craig.

I don’t miss old Hugh at all. It got old really quick. As for the repair, I think that Classtique has some new material that has the old patina look. You might check into that b

As an aside to true lamination of hood bows, I was looking at making some curved sections for the body at the corners. The originals were cut from a wide board, and consequently as the timber aged and dried out, they were splitting across the grain. I found the solution in some modern foot wide laminated beam material. I scored an offcut for zilch...

And then Ford built in 1915/16 25400 chassis and I have read if I remember correctly in a Ford Times that 41000+ chassis in 1917 and was still assembling brass ones in that model year to reduce surplus stock and suppling them to the Army, maybe that included RHD parts as well.

Photo number two also has an early no opening engine pan used for 1909 into early 1911. Those, from a clean side view, had much more pronounced dip troughs.

It is likely that all flywheels came with ring gears once the starters were introduced. Having two distinct parts for the same job is not something That would be appreciated on an assembly line would. Ditto for the hogsheads, they were likely all the same, with factory blanking plates for non starter cars.
Many TT's were thus equipped, as a cost...

Just a thought, in the “old days” when even modern daily drivers leaked a little oil, RTV was unheard of, and non-hardening #2 Permatex was the go-to gasket seal, I had good results using the felt seals that were often long enough to give a little tuck under in those corners where some like to use cord, candle-wicking or a bead of RTV. In the...

A wise choice, let the machine shop do it, unless you have the right tooling it is near impossible to ream a guide square to the seat by hand.

Ted, might I suggest you put a heavy chain and padlock on the wheels once you have them off. There's a lot of money in a good set of wheels/tyres. Even more if you have flaps fitted.

Allan from down under.

2nd on Dan
I had no continuity thru my switch, the common lead to the coil box strip had corroded at the switch lug and broke...
I replaced with stranded with soldered tips....nobody sees those wires anyway to argue purity...

Thank you everybody for your responses! I do really appreciate the help. I was able to find one using the information sent in and hope that it solves my problems!!

When I first saw Steve's firewall photo all that registered with me was the gloss black at the top and edges and the rest looked like lightly sanded black ready for a new top coat. If it was sprayed with a wetting agent or penetarnt to bring out the gloss, it may well look much closer to the green on Russ's coupe.
Again though, to get an accurate...

What model are these ;lights? The model should be on the thumb screw on the door. I have a Model 10 Buick that needs a good set of lights if you want to sell them. PM me at imnuts4fords at comcast.net
Don Azevedo

After my accident I can not sit comfortable in these modern seats , the sides ride up on my sides and the left side I have Sciatica and lost 50% use of the right leg so it is uncomfortable being pushed up on as well. the cushion was torn on my 04 dodge when I bought and i had a upholstery shop put a foam insert in the seat to flatten it out, MUCH...

They need replacing.

Allan from down under.

That tornado-damaged touring has cream or gray painted wheels. With the aftermarket fore doors it’s really gaining some personality.

Notice the loops down by the radiator for the top strap are separate pieces. My fore-door 1911 has the loop forged into the fender bracket. However, it looks to me like there are a couple of bolts in the firewall above the side lamps where fore-doors would attach. However, there are also a couple of bolt head below the side lamps too, so there is...

My experience with the switch. I have a '14 Touring and rebuilt my coil box. I also cleaned the switch and put in new wiring. One thing I found while rebuilding was the copper fingers in the box that touch the contacts on the coils had been changed by probably decades of prying/bending them out to make better contact. The copper had lost its...

You can use the Chevrolet rims by drilling a new valve stem hole in the correct place.

I have been driving with loose baffle in the tank of my 1919 for about 45 years now...

Apologies for the delay in my reply, many thanks Craig for your suggestions, I will give that a try.

Many Thanks
George

If I remember correctly the numbers that go with the picture Tim posted are .100 on the left and.125 on the right.

Stan - I blew up the upper left quadrant of the sanded area to the point where I could see the image at the individual pixels. The black fender is still seen to the left. Under magnification, the blue color of the original paint really starts to pop whereas the black fender to the left remains unchanged. I'm starting to think that this car was...

Aw heck …. I was hoping it was the Canton east of Dallas :o(.. I always learn from your pictures Tom. And I thought the ‘winged’ radiator script was only with early ‘09s. Surely (shirley) the white rubber floor mat isn’t original ? But what a wonderful Model T !!

Would this same arrangement be on my 1911 Torpedo? I think I bought the straps from one of the suppliers. I don't remember the separate pieces.

Marvelous!! Necessity IS the mother of invention.

What is your recommendation for adjusting coils to work with an E-Timer installed? I expect that removing and reinstalling the fused jumper would change point settings. But, is that not a concern with an E-Timer?

I do run my E-Timer with the points active (i.e. no jumpers), and in that regard I've set my coils as I would with a mechanical timer...

What I did with one of mine. I went to a local title company who came out and examined the engine number on the block. They then found out whether the number had been used on any other car or whether it had been stolen. Then they arranged with the DMV to issue the title. I put it in non-operation until I was ready to drive the car. Something else...

Anyone recall what the selling price was on those ?

Somewhere around $40 ish? My memory aint so good tho!! :lol:

Original Ford-specified dual-filament headlight bulbs had one 21 candlepower (cp) filament for on , and one 2 cp filament for dim (later 3 cp). The dim was a parking light, not low beam headlight. While 21 cp is not very bright by tod ay's standards, that's what they used. Adequate for the speeds they drove at night with night-adapted vision (not...

Here’s another thumbs up for Penetrol. I’ve used it very successfully on a number of antique hand tools, where I wanted to maintain a vintage appearance, but didn’t want to have to keep dealing with rust reappearing. My daily-use chisels received the Penetrol wipe-on treatment more than a decade ago and still look terrific. The stuff completely...

TT clamp, longer studs for the bigger spring pack

That TT C.C. front bearing and spring clip, # TT-1164-B uses larger nuts, as thread is 5/8 x 18, same nut as axle nut. Plus, the clip also longer for the taller TT front crossmember.

The '26-'27 clip, # T-3075-C with apron screw hole, thread is 9/16 x 18, same nut used on rear radius rod bolts.

Photo #9 is what we are going to look like trying to move all these pears over the next week or so. I'm glad it's not a chestnut tree, pears land a little softer.

I also look all these pictures noticing how dressed up they are and can't imagine driving my T in the summer dressed to the nine. I complain when my feet are hot wearing sandels, I...

Mike's truck definitely has the faster truck rear axle gear ratio. He told me that about 10 years ago when I drove it a short distance.

After we left the restaurant on the tour, we stopped at the Smiling Fox Forge for a very interesting 1 hour visit.

Art Mirtes

Heres Kathy and Dave at the finish line. Quite a feat. No, his spark isn’t retarded and gas advanced. The levers are reversed from Model T s

Some success today to report! After disassembling the carb yesterday and finding nothing obviously wrong, I re-assembled it today exactly as I had done before and mounted it on the engine this afternoon. The engine still wouldn't stay running after the gas was used up that we had trickled in each cylinder to encourage the old girl to start....

I don't think anyone expected or needed this to be a precision instrument.

My guess is that 22.5 volts isn't accurate enough.

Not sure what you're getting at. If you've ever operated an early 20's radio, you would notice that they'll operate just fine at anything even close to the specified voltages. For that purpose, this volt meter is more...

Exhaust wrap needs heat to cause it to cure & since your on the muffler end yoy could heat up the tailpipe with a propane torch.

Step 8: Finishing Touches
Once the exhaust wrap is securely in place, you can use heat-resistant adhesive spray to further seal the wrap if desired. This step is optional but can provide added protection against...

It's been a while, but I seem to remember squeezing mine with a big pair of vice grips. :)

I haven't heard of a Giant head. I have a Giant Power head on my car, and it isn't worth the effort to put it on!

Larry, the head I was referring to is a Giant Power head. I know it wouldn't increase the compression like a Prus head would, but like Suzanne said, you don't have to worry about dissimilar metals.

I am aware of Johnsons in Oklahoma. Their website leads me to believe they do very good work. I called them yesterday morning and left a message and then sent an e-mail. So far, no reply at all! Called Mr. Stutzman late yesterday as he was on Steve's list, left a message and got a call back at 8:00am today. Based on references here, a timely call...