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I've seen a couple of these semi modern types of hydraulic brake systems for Model T. I think I understand why your friend wasn't impressed with their performance. For some unknown reason, folks seem to think that the T's braking system is flawed (the joke being, step on the brake pedal and the car responds with I'll take that under advisement ),...

For the more technically minded -

...but I remember some wording about having to seal them if one intended to actually put fluids in them.
I remember the same thing. I decided to look for the real thing, and I got lucky. I found three at an auction. It's been several years, but I think I paid $3 each for them. Probably my luckiest buy ever. They're larger than the ones you...

This kid is amazing!

Sometimes you need a slide hammer to pull them out…. But yes, get all the fasteners out first.

Thank you for posting this, Mike.

If I did the math correctly. 21/32 is 18.237 MM. So, that would be just .0093 larger than 18 MM.

Charley Bowers video It's a bird from 1930 has a lot of T parts:

Now it makes sense.
Thanks!!

Uploaded another video from the archives here. Strobospark vs buzz box. You can see the difference on the same coil. Just cause it buzzes doesn't mean it's right! Through up a comment if there is a piece of these cars you don't understand and maybe I'll make a video on it for you. This is video #554 on my youtube channel - about 130 of those are...

Here is the mixture control in my '24 Speedster, same as shown by Oldav8or in the initial post. I have the info dial but an under-mount worked better on this dash.

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You all have fun, I hope 1 day to make it up there.

Thanks for all the helpful information. Steve Tomaso was kind enough to offer me a set of NORS sill plates which I am purchasing. They are the skinny type with a checkerboard background and Ford logo

I got one and it's really slick..no more struggles. I took a suggestion from fellow forum poster Royce and lined the inside of it with electrical tape so rim won't be marred up up. I put a little grease on rim to facilitate attaching it. Great idea!

Hello Will,
Go to my post of Jan 21/19 called Improved Open Car Surgery and Build. Scroll down to where I show the vertical straight edge. The forward edge of the front roof bow aligns perfectly with the hinge pins. These cars were designed on a graph with verticals, horizontals, and compass drawn arcs.
Ken

Awesome photo!
Celebrating new Fords.
Thanks
Rich

Loose or worn parts anywhere in the steering system can cause shimmy, wobble, tramp, and wander, as well as steeting wheel kick, excess noise, and rapid tire wear.

Bent or out of round or out of balance wheels/tires can also cause assorted problems.

Even if everything is tight, poor alignment or out of round/out of balance wheels/tires can...

Thank you for your concise and easy to understand response. This is really very helpful.

There are enough original photos and surviving Canadian 1913 T's in Australia to prove that all manufacturers of lights were represented. E&J, both all brass and steel and brass,JNO Brown and Glasco. We even had English manufactured brass lamps installed as well.

This is a similar bracket for a Standard speedometer, probably mounted the same, I haven't found the rest of the hardware to complete my installation.

Looks great to me!

That was wonderful! I can’t wait until Iam done this is something I’ve been wanting to do :lol:
Bryant

If you find a distributor for new correct hardware let me know, I too am working on a late Canadian car. It’s nice finding all the Made in Canada cast onto the parts. Pretty unique amongst T’s around here.

Supposedly the guy in charge says they’re working on a budget and have a million dollar insurance policy

It’s an indie outfit.

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these should be right with no chamfer.

The ninth picture. I wonder what is in that big bottle held by the boy in front? Bottle has a face on it but the boy's face is partially hidden.

Is it on the end of the fuel distributer bar?

My buckets are on the bar bolted to the fender bracket, since I have no fenders.

No hoist.
A fellow enthusiast used this same method to continue the procedure after cracking a beam. Another story.
He placed a modern tire in front of the T to catch the motor when flipped out.

Nice work. You should be proud.

Several years ago I changed my 1924 touring to a dual voltage system. For the starter and horn, they remained on the 6 volt battery. The 6 volt current is much kinder to the bendix and ring gear. To charge the 6V battery I got a device from Fun Projects that takes the current from the magneto and sends it to the 6 volt battery.

For ignition and...

A scambot replying to thank you for notifying of a scambot?
So far they're fairly easy to spot. But the software will become more sophisticated, and eventually you won't be able to tell what's real and what's not.

If you send me your front cover, I’ll re-machine it for a modern seal for $80 and will include the new seal.

IMG_0227.JPG IMG_0225.JPG Hope these help, and are clear enough, haha! They are of an early 26 touring cars rear door. Not sure if the 27 is different size wise or just has different sheet metal details in the construction? Hopefully you can clarify that if ordering interior panels... good luck, have fun! -Chris, in Boulder

Thanks for the photos Tim. It is very important to share out T's with both the past and future generations. I have been enjoying your 13 Touring all this month on the Langs Calendar!

Awwww, thanks Warwick! As did I enjoy urs from March! Great truck, great picture setting.

Noon to 5? That will be enough time to get you in the door! I had 2 days to cover the museum and the village and had to pass by alot of stuff to see what really interested me the most. I fully intend to go back and when I do I will spend at least 2 days Just in the museum it's self. So much to see. and not all car related.

Forgive me Craig for I have failed to take into account the vagaries of altitude, climate and topography. In South Australia we can drive from sea level to just over 2000'. Our climate is just like southern California, without any snow due to altitude, and a good model T will rarely need to use bottom gear on the few hills we do have. I have seven...

Thanks to all!!!!

Reminds me of a Mark Twain anecdote.

Thanks to all for your comments. The Model T Winter Clinic in Kansas had a topic some time back about cams that Larry Young and Fred Huston put on. It was very informative. I'd heard of the 7 degree advance from my late friend, Bud Voth, probably 40 years ago. I can't say that I heard much about it in the Model T community until maybe 20 years ago...

Maybe I'm reading into this something that isn't there and was never there?

There is probably an even chance that whoever put that head on may have actually 'drawn' the copper up in the area you mention where you 'think' there was a bypass leak? The old head bolt-down sequence? The premise is to walk out any micro burp that may come back to bite...

Couldn't agree more. I installed Scott's valve and no longer have fuel flow issues when the tank is low or climbing hills.

What I have seen is that Dan had about 10 bands that he was putting on the linings and the levers that needed the hole drilled and finished. And the rights wasn't the right word to use, he just bought the plans for reproducing them

Dave,

Thanks for the information. I think I may head down there at the end of September. My Mom and Dad live in the area they are touring through. When I was down there this week I took my Dad to the Antique Car Museum of Iowa in Coralville. They have a very impressive collection of cars and it is worth the visit. I did miss the deadline for the...

does anyone know where I could get some headlight sockets high low the part where the bulb goes into

If you are looking for this, I have several new & used. email or PM me if you need them

Thanks, Mark. You answered my questions.

I just got an email from Hagerty on this article. Then I get on MTFCA and there is a thread about it! The Model T is alive and well! FEC610B4-79DE-4CDE-AE08-9B0AA72CB538.png Iam in the X section 8-)
Bryant

In this application, you can only make a pulley so small to speed up the alternator. Motor pulley is a fixed size.
Gear driven is fixed. You need to start with an alternator capable of sufficient charging within these fixed limits.
Claims are that the GM 1 wire unit will work.

The first photo (1915) shows a 1914 T from the wide crossmember and rivets in rear end.
The second would be 1909 or 1910 by the buggy rail and butterfly rear fender bracket. Lamps and acetylene generator still look OK.
Rich

I'll bet it says Neverout.

I bought 3 similar hooked together and sold as a clothes hanger. :lol:

Looking close at the picture I’m not seeing any kind of fencing for a Rodeo other that the cars in a big circle! I’m wondering if it was a Rodeo or if they were just working a few cattle. Maybe branding the livestock or just dehorning them. Whatever they were doing the cattle would have put some dents or get cut up running into the cars....

I once had a late 1925 block with the boss, but no holes were drilled for the bolts.

That's the type of block I have in my '25 Touring.

The consensus seems to be some time in the 1924 model year.

My January 1924 car came to me with the earlier style clamps, but I changed them over to the later style based on the preponderance of opinion. I still have the early clamps in storage in case the consensus changes. :)

Yes, and here are some extra words to get over the 10 character minimum. :)

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If you know the patent number(s), we might be able to look it up online, saving you the trouble of scanning. :)

I don't know it off hand, but I will get it when I'm home tonight for sure.

Nice work Mark!!!!!!!!

Ah yes a Lloyd, they are not uncommon over here, 'zee Dzjermans' built quite a lot of those little cars in the late forties and fifties, they were about all one could afford to buy, and gas was still 'on stamps' after the war so small engines were the thing back then.
The german term for these was 'Kabinenroller'
Lloyd even had one of the first...

If it will fit in your garage with the top up, fine also if you don't trailer on an open trailer especially at high speeds. Leave it up. I used to have a Model A Phaeton and I didn't even have the saddles on it. I left it up all the time.
Norm

Maybe someone will 3D print an update on the plastic fan that allows for indexed accurate placement on the pulley hub.

Mark N. wrote....
I have used 3-D printed plastics to build prototypes for over 25 years. I would NEVER trust a 3-D printed fan behind my new Brassworks radiator.

To clarify, I meant that maybe someone would find a way to...

Sorry. No to all.

I have seen this problem several times in the past. I take a thread file to the spindle to clean up the threads. A helical wire brush on the inside threads of the bearing may help as well.

Terry

I dont use a wait time. Apply & assemble.

Hi. We have Hidem in stock at Classtique Upholstery. You can view it at

Mike Francis
Classtique Upholstery

Small tack weld on the back side.

I tried to re-swedge the stud.......

Unsuccesful. Had to resort to a tac weld with the stud compressed under tension.

There was another stud that had turned but was still locked in place. That one got a small glob of weld too.

Car is back together.

Thanks to all for teaching me some new T stuff. Much...

Delrin bushes might do a good job on a Model T.

Interesting idea. Has anyone done any calculations, or tried this? I've got to re-bush my rear shackles soon...

Or go all out and use UHMW. Indestructible, used in bullet proof vests, and self lubricating. No more mess on the floor anymore!

Too bad either of these aren't being made to fit our...

Hi Leo
Thanks for your suggestions. Yes, we have the book you suggested. It is a great read.
Chassis flexing is an interesting question. The conventional wisdom is that the chassis was designed to flex and it should be allowed to do so. The way the car was designed points to three pivoting points for the front and back axle and the engine. It was...

Early and late manifold studs.

The 3/8 castle nut with 5/8 hex is a rod cap nut.

I have seen a similar tool used to loosen gasoline line fittings. It worked well but I don't have one. I hope I never again have to drop a gas tank.

Art Mirtes

One thing to consider, often “runabout” and “roadster” are confused and commingled when talking about Model S. A rule of thumb is, about 2500 R and about 2500 Model S runabouts were produced. Around 3300-3500 S roadsters (rumble seats). R appeared in the winter/early spring of 1907. S runabouts in the late summer of 1907, and S roadsters in April,...

Ron, three of the 17-Z-803 testers above have the output on top, but #4 appears like it might have it on bottom (based on what looks to be a starter notch at bottom right and that I can't see an output block at the top). If true, this would also mean the rear casting that the field coil mounts to is different than on the other three. I'm curious...

Thanks, Dan... I remember these floating shafts, and I've never heard of anyone who used one complaining.

Tom asked for a couple corrections for clarification. I re-uploaded the file.

The first picture is a 1910 or 1911 Torpedo Roadster, missing its front fenders and with some sort of turtle deck trunk added behind the large round gasoline tank.

Yeh and it looks like they painted all the gorgeous brass black! More Amish maybe? Who knows.

4th. pic of what looks to be either a '13 or '14 has interesting coach lamps....

Mike, I'm out of town today, but will be back in Gresham in a day or two. Then off to Prineville for the Portland Regional Group HCCA Annual Scenic Tour. Tell Galen I said, Hi.

: ^ )

Keith

How long do you think an original fan pulley would last with that hanging out there in front?

Thanks Rod. It's a good message for people to hear. It's a shame that our little corner of the internet can't be free of these lowlifes. It also shows how far they will go to try and scam people.

Scott, I love your disclaimer for some of the viewers!

I'm happy to heard Dave is good. I missing is classifiedd post with his Model T Ford mug... :lol: Maybe I will start selling extra parts I have with my Model T Ford mug either in honnor of his legacy

Yes I do know that there are posts about losing a member and it doesn’t bother me about knowing about it.

I may have misstated my point. It also doesn't bother me to know about losing a member, but I don't like seeing the name of someone I know, thinking it's bad news, and finding out that he has, for example, bought another T or had a new...

For those looking for a galvanizing service, there may be a Valmont plant near you:

Scott,
Mine measures about 24
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-Keith

Thanks Frank - that will fix me right up !

Actually, I'm all but certain that the original needles were Monel, but that isn't the point of the question

So here's the deal: you do NOT want to lap the valve

What you almost certainly have right now: is a slightly concave polished ring on the cone of the needle and an equally wide and polished seat in the brass barrel

What you do most...

Colonel Powers.... How's your progress with the band change coming along?