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My car seems to enjoy running, and I certainly enjoy driving it.

No one makes a new 42 tooth ring gear. Good luck finding a good used one.

Back in the mid 1970’s I knew the person doing the bonded Model T transmission bands in Central California area. The linings were the same material as was used in old cable operated dragline brake drums that stop and hold the cables in use. Many such draglines from the 1950’s were still in use by irrigation districts back then. On the T bands they...

In 2011, I installed a Stewart 490 in my 1926 Coupe and posted the step by step procedure with 14 pictures. The most important thing was to get the hole in the right place to avoid the fuel tank in the cowl behind the dash. Jim Patrick

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Larry, like it was said it in the old days, “ Don’t have a cow, man.”
I did a lot of work in the Visalia mall, the next city to the north, in the 80’s so I should have remembered the proper spelling of the city, sorry.

Model T Ron....that is a nice looking car. I wish there were white tires available when I restored mine.

I’ve read that the T ignition switch rebuild kits were scarce.
If a switch's problem is a warped backing plate, which it often is, that's usually an easy fix. I didn't know that until I opened up a switch and saw what was the matter with it.

Ford could not tolerate drunk or hung-over workers, or butt-hurt slackers, or the persistently inept, except by pricing his product a good bit higher. An impaired worker would have been a hazard to himself and others, as well as to the company. The Ford plants were among the cleanest and safest industrial workplaces in early 20th Century, if not...

Link for 'Front Assemblies':

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I have a Lincoln 3-speed for my TT, but have not installed
it yet. These period aix. transmissions have straight cut gears,
and are known to whine. I liked the idea of putting that noise
out back by the rear end, rather than up front by the cab. My
truck is loud enough already !

I saw the ones RV made at Hershey, but there were none in his shop after he passed, and I didn't find any parts or drawings. Maybe Don Lang found something related to the project when he was in RV's shop.

If you find the correct color, you can successfully touch-up all chips by filling in the chipped and damaged areas with a very small brush dabbing on several coats and then, once completely dry, gently sand the touched-up areas flat with 600 grit wet/dry sandpaper being careful not to sand anything but the recently applied touch-up paint. Once the...

Babbitt is the way to go. If you use inserts, it would be best to also have a pressurized oil system, but to do that, you would need to drill the crankshaft. The bearings on a T crank are also small and the drilling would weaken the already weak crankshaft. With a new Skat crank, the babbitt bearings would wear for a long time and only need small...

After you get the wiring correct, Your first running may show a dead generator requiring re-polarization.

Pat,

Please contact me by email.

Dick(dot)Fischer(at)mac.com Note: for exact address, make all capital letters lower case.

Thanks everyone for the posts and suggestions. Will see how it goes now. :)

I found that same page as well, Frank. But I can't seem to drill down into their website to look at the regulator itself. Probably just not computer savvy enough.

Have you tried to look into the catalog to see details for ordering from Ford Garage ?

I found the HOME page
Scrolling down - lots of documentation and original parts catalogs. Think...

If you run the numbers… adding the A crank with its extra 1/4” of stroke to a 4:1 compression engine will only bump the compression ratio to 4.25:1. Unfortunately, at these low compression ratios it requires a lot of volume displacement to increase compression ratio. No doubt the high dome piston displaces a noticeable amount of volume, but likely...

with original hubs and axles the probability is a near certainty

I dug around in my parts and found a nice clevis. Fitted it a bit then set it to the same length as the one I took out. Seems to work ok. I will do some adjusting when the wheels are back on.

Thank you very much all for the responses, they are much appreciated, I will double check all the measurements and probably make up a brass spacer and see what effect that has.

Many Thanks
George

I have collected some photos from the internet. I hope they help.
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The last two may be earlier.
Rich

Wonderful things including the video.
Out friend Bob Woodburn has a number of things still on eBay at premium prices. His reasoning has been discussed here many times.
For me, the pictures are fabulous and a treat to see.
Thanks for the opportunity to see them.
Rich

So it wasn’t custom, benson ford had one mention of a waterskiet dealership in their archives. The only mention of the dealership is from the 1924 ledger and reads “canceled 8/18/1925. Dealer's request. Unable to finance. Unfair practices.” This was in reference to Mr. Behlows watersmeet dealership as well so everything seems to line up.

Keith McG,
I don't recognize the big car either, but I do like it! And the T is clearly a 1914 style, which was actually manufactured for well over a year and a half! Due to weakness in the 1913 style, they began production by July of 1913. And then due to production delays of the new 1915 style front cowl, continued clear into April of 1915!
Most...

Yeah, I thought about that just a few minutes ago. Works with laminate, but surely not with tempered glass! You could go the route of cutting new glass and if you think 1/8 less in width might do it, then go with that. If that turns out to be too much you can shim behind the felt channels to get it just right. As I said earlier, I spent a lot of...

Depends upon the model transmission.
If it is the six speed version, actually a three speed progressive shift, be very careful. Do not try to force it because you can't!
I had one many years ago, that wasn't very rusty inside, and never did get it loose. There is a big sliding gear with a couple of dog clutches that takes very little rust inside...

My advise is don't try it. Russ

Yes, It have a virgin starter ring on the fly wheel.
I hope, at the underside, the corrosion didn't distroy it.

Andre
Belgium

The term station wagon pre-dates the automobile so it actually did not start with the Model T. Same goes for depot hackney AKA depot hack and I also presume for estate wagon.

Automobile manufactures such as Woods and Pope-Waverley produced models to which they referred as station wagons, long before the appearance of any Model T equipped with a...

Has anyone else had their old car surge ahead unexpectedly?
Yes. My 1915 runabout ran over me. But it didn't jump into gear. It was in neutral but with cold oil, and I forgot to chock the wheels.

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We had no dial phones before about 1958. You simply picked up the phone, and the operator asked: Number, please? You then gave the street name and address you wanted to call, and the operator connected you. When dial phones became available, You would dial X-XXXX. Later on,
you had to dial XXX-XXXX. Now you have to enter XXX-XXX-XXXX or...

They describe it as a current regulator . That suggests a choke , or inductor, which can be used to regulate mag output at higher engine speeds. I don't know why it would matter how it was mounted, unless it was oil-filled, which it may very well be. Another possibility is that it is a capacitor, which could accomplish a similar function. It could...

The upper inlet version dumps into a well which contains what is in essence a labyrinth assembly whereby sediment settles out and clean(er) fuel at the top of the well is allowed to flow in to the bowl. Fuel flow is very slightly but not terribly restricted with this arrangement. Unscrewing the cap on this well allows the operator to withdraw the...

Slot go's on the other side of the cam on a T engine, some get confused on which side of the bore is the power thrust, which is the cam side. There is an arrow on the top that should point to the front of an engine.

These responses are GREAT!! Lots of help for getting my 25 Touring back on the road.

Thanks soooo much!!

Tom
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Darin - I run a Rajo Model 30 head on my 1919 speedster. Also runs with no magneto, Texas T distributor, and a Stromberg RF carb. I've had it up to 65 mph with throttle to spare.

If you do a Google search on rajo mtfca forum you'll get a wealth of information on Rajo heads and the experiences that folks have had with them. I attached a PDF with...

I agree the pin position technic works great.
I almost always prime the engine with 4 pulls, and then she always starts right up.

I use the the horizontal pin position also, ever since John Regan taught me that way back in 2013. Works great. My '13 will almost always stsrt cold on 1st or 2nd yank after the customary priming, and that's if she...

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Allan from down under.

Nicely done!

Mine came with the pins. They are necessary to align the cam gear with the cam. It can go on either way because the crank is exactly the same position at 180 degrees.
Norm

I talked to the man I bought the car from tonight and told him that I was going to come and get the parts. Who knows there might be some gem that I overlooked. Anyway, if anyone is in need of a engine project, I would probably be glad to give them one. A friend of mine also has a 17 chassis with a rebuilt engine that has also been sitting outside...

Well it so happens I pulled the canvas off the speedster project and started scroungeing up parts stuffed in nooks and cranys in the shop and i had bought 1 of those diodes! and had a cut out in the bag with it and was apparently looking at doing this during the last work on the project.
That is I guess 1 of the good things about closed head...

5/8 look fine to my eyes.

Compare the photos I posted in the other thread of the 1917 Rip Van Winkle touring and my dad's 1917 touring with the 5/8 nails at the end of the binding, June and July cars respectively, both originally sold in Minnesota and, I presume, both assembled in Minneapolis.

Happy to have you back Carl! Enjoy the ride!

I plan to fire up the oscilloscope and the capacitor meter to check the coils. The points have just been cleaned with a file. I prefer filing rather than sandpapering the points. I found that old Briggs and Startton engines won't start very well with sanded points. Filed ones seem to work well. I realize that these Ignition systems are different...

Thanks for the replies and diagrams. That really helps a lot!

Not Model T, but the story is still the same ! :lol:

Yep, 11077 fits machined hubs. My reply above is pretty much moot then. Good luck. Have fun. I think you're on your way.

Hi, I understand why you are looking for a reliable and affordable car hauler. Moving a car can be daunting, but it can be easy with the right company.

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FJ

I think I will order a reproduction metal cover. Not that expensive and it should fit better than the wood one.

There have been several fancy doodads to set timing over the past 100 years. Currently Lang's sells one that even lights up (for $87). They are all less accurate than going by the pin position, which has the advantage of costing the perfect price — nothing.

What would be causing excessive play in the steering of my 1920 Roadster?
It's rarely caused by just one thing. More often it's a combination of several small problems that add up to one big one (worn bushings, gears, pitman arm ball, etc.). Look everywhere in the steering system.

And pretty ingenious!

I have seen 2, one of which I have in my collection. I would post a picture but not sure I know how.

A 6mm x 1 screw is very close to the number 14 thread used with the starter bendic cover. They will work very well and they are available with a torx head. This makes it easier to install.

I haven't change to these yet.

Art Mirtes

If your cam has been reground, chances are there is no heel left, check it. If that is the case you will need to install a thrust kit.

What can happen is the lobe can drop into the notch without the thrust kit that is installed between the cover and timing gear.

I did spend some time looking. Overland, Chevrolet and even Cadillac had similar ones but not a match I could find. I suspect a small car or even an accessory for a Ford.
Rich

anyone ever seen these types?

Great to know, Ed. Thanks!

I'm sure many manufacturers besides Ford availed themselves of the same paint. I wonder who made it ??

The any color so long as it's black legend is misunderstood. The economy of gilsonite black and its durability dictated black pigment, because the varnish made by cooking gilsonite in drying oils was too dark to allow for pigments other than...

The lever will not tire, and its position can be readily checked with a glance, if need be. Proper adjustment of the linkage is important whether you use the pedal or the lever to hold the car in neutral . Use of the lever prevents an inexperienced driver from stalling the motor by putting the car in high when starting from a stop. If I stop and...

Tim, I have 4 pairs of RMs. They are the most comfortable, best fitting boots one can buy. They are not cheap, but amortise the initial cost over their lifetime of service, and they are really good value. rmwilliams.com .au

Allan from down under.

This one is on eBay now:
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They also made brass ones for '13 according to this.
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God i love you guys!

Thank you so much for the help. Now it makes sense. I will scrape some paint off below the switch so as to get a good ground (earth).

Thank you for all the feedback.

I think I will only clean the spark plugs on the outside and then put them into operation. If they run well, the spark plugs will probably stay as they are.
I have a set of four of each variety.

I don't see an answer to my question about the difference. I am particularly concerned about the different heat ranges...

Nice find Don. I don't see NOS stuff like I use to many years ago. The last ones I came across at an estate sale was a couple of NOS 26-7 generators thrown in a small pile of misc electric motors for $5 each. Makes the trip worthwhile doesn't it?

The wood was painted.

If anyone needs a TT frame, let me know, I have one to sell but dont want to load and unload it unless I am pretty sure it will sell.
Also will have a pair of Model T Snowmobile skis.

thank you, Bob

My first car was a 1929 Model A. It was first sold in January 1929. It had some features of the 28. It had the red steering wheel. It had the Pinch top parking brake lever but was in front of the gearshift. Later they used one with a button at the top. It did, however have the single disk clutch. While I had the car I bought a used engine from a...

No terribly practical, but, the fronts can be turned around to pick up the lesser worn side created by the camber.
I am sure this would have been done in the depression era to get those last miles from tires.

I believe that in modern cars the side windows are tempered glass but the windshields are laminated safety glass. I just replaced the glass in my 1930 Plymouth with laminated safety glass all around. It was hard to find someone who will work with that stuff these days but they are out there.

Problem solved with a thick washer.

I have always restored them back to original, this one is mine and the last one I plan on doing. I have been saving good original parts for this one for 25 years. I’m building it to be a great driver like I want it.

Not sure what happened Stephen, we did have a few days without internet during the “atmospheric river” storm a couple weeks ago…

Feel free to call or email anytime

mbowen,
That looks like one of the form-a-truck trucks. Smith Form-A-Truck was one of the best known offering such kits. But there were at least a half dozen others. Jewett, a company not affiliated with Paige, and the Graham Brothers (who years later bought out Paige to form the Graham Paige automobile company), were among the several companies...

some good pix and info here:
and here:

they were made in the same time frame as the T for both T cars and some industrial engine/agricultural uses

Thanks guys!

Yes, rounding the bottom edge is PART of the fix as it reduces the amount of reintroduced wear. Unfortunately, under full flex, you are still crashing over the edges left on the tops of the leaf if they are not removed, and thus are not enjoying the best ride the car can potentially give.

I offer this bit of extra information for anyone...

Tim,
Here's what you're looking for. I have some copies printed up in my file cabinet. If this looks to be clearer than what you have (it is a bit clearer full size) I'd be happy to mail a couple to you. You can call me at (818) 321-5360 or email me your address at planetaryman@msn.com.

Bryan

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I suspect that dealers, not only Ford, took those pictures to boast about their product's durability. College kids sought how many souls they could crowd on a car much like stuffing a phone booth. Others just wanted to get a whole gang on the New Car .
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There are many of them out there.
Rich

The foot operated rills were a beautifully made piece of equipment. A friend converted one to drive a home made spinning wheel. You could kick it into action and the balance would allow it to run for a couple of minutes as it slowly wound down. Ordinarilly, the fibre is fed into the spindle orifice directly in front of the operator. His dental...