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As I am a new member of MTFCA & also new to Model T’s, I acquired a nice 24 Touring about a year ago & started the second restoration this car is getting. I’ve been though the engine & transmission with a rebore, new pistons rods etc. painstakingly put this all back together and after running it for a while, I see oil drips, especially from the...

Was at an auction today and couldn't resist picking up this Power Unit as a project for Dad and I. Don't know much about the history so I was hoping you guys can give some information on this particular unit.

It looks very much manufactured with some shade tree modifications. The engine is a '20 and the transmission is configured for direct...

Anyone having trouble getting to the home page? I can access the Forum directly but if I want to get to the home page I get this error.

My friend Rick found this engine. As you can see, it has been cut down to two cylinders. The homemade governor is very inventive using two-piece valves for the centrifugal weights and actuator.
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It appears to be a pre starter engine and the brass hub fan would be '12 to '16 although the...

Let me start by admitting I am a 'purist restorer' at heart, but sometimes stepping outside of your normal can make you feel giddy like a little kid. That was me working in the shop today.

The backstory is, last summer when I rebuilt the engine in my Depot Hack in prep for the Hamilton, OH tour, I decided to try one of the new 12v gear reduction...

Rebuilding a spare engine and found on inspection that I am going to need to go to
oversize tappets .
What is the recommended clearance between the tappet stem and the valve
guide ?
Thank you.

I have been asked if anyone can provide an approximate date for this school bus. The photo was probably taken in the Aberdeen, Idaho area 85DD4E08-6743-43DE-B187-62386A0BE818.jpeg

This one might be an '09 ? Flat belt off the rear wheel is powering something in that barn. I don't think I've ever seen a horn bulb mount like that one. Looks practical !

I think this photo has been posted before, but I ran across it today and thought it's especially interesting because it so clearly shows the pinstripes on this 1913 touring. I'm intrigued the hood appears to be a different color.

With the car is Kootenai Brown , park ranger in the Waterton Lakes reserve. He died in 1916, but lived to see the...

What does a license plate holder look like, and where does it mound on 1912 commercial roadster and why a did they call it a commercial roadster was that Seat put on there just for looks? to be tooken off

I can't find much on this painting of Henry. History, worth, availability? Anyone have any info? I have a large framed wall painting...not a poster...maybe 3ft by 5 feet.
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I love to see photos of repair shops back in the day. Invariably, shop furnishings and most fixtures were arrangements of wood blocks and timbers. The feller with the hogshead looks like he's cradling a newborn. The car is interesting, the headlights would seem to tell us it's a '16, but it's probably older. Note the mud on the wheels.

I am getting ready to paint my newly rebuilt wheels for my 1912 Roadster. They will be painted the very dark “Midnight Blue” using PPG Single Stage urethane enamel. I searched the forum extensively to see what preparation the wheels require and found all kinds of advice. So much so that I have gotten myself confused. Some say to seal the wood with...

Digging thru a parts bin and came across riveted triple gears. Not sure what year they were last used by Ford, but are they used by people running or restoring those years of transmissions or are they conversation pieces and paperweights?

People are always asking me how do we get more young people involved in the old cars. To make a long story short I tell them their are a few things that can be done. Of course all these things are subject to... can you afford to do this.

1. Give the youngster a car. A complete chassis covered in rust in grease is a good starting point and by the...

Fear Not!! Tulare 2023 will be a GO!!! Steven Chase and I have been working hard to make this event even better than last year. There have been quite a few changes happening and I'll explain in detail a little later. At this point, Tulare is going to be held at the Tulare County Fair Grounds in Tulare. The Board of Directors at The International...

I recently purchased these unusual electric side lamps, they are the same as the oil lamps just minus the font & chimney. Years ago I saw an identical set of these and were told they were for the late 1927 T but they mounted from back with a special bracket, these mount from the side. Where would these mount on a 26/27? The brackets in the photo...

Wilbur Menge
RIP
For those who knew him:

This was quite the accomplishment for me. I haven't reamed or shaved metal for 30+ years and then it was under the watchful eye of my father. To put the bottom-line up front, here are before and after videos of the play in my driver's side spindle...

Before:

After:

Here is how I went about it...

I acquired these specialty tools:...

When the Olympic Tyre and Rubber Company decided to cease production of their legendary beaded edge tyres in the early 1970's, they advised old car enthusiasts so they could lay in some supplies for later. I traded som labour for this set of beauties. 20220524_201058.jpg

Over time they shrink, having no wire in the beads. My local tyre shop used...

There is a good movie playing on the Vice channel called “Lawless” that is set in 1931 about three bootlegging brothers in Franklin, VA based on a true story. It has a lot of old, mostly Ford cars. In one scene they were delivering a Model T truckload of illegal white lightning when they ran out of gas. One of them got the bright idea of filling...

My Model T Times arrived today. About 2 weeks after the Vintage Ford.

The registration form for the Baraboo, WI national tour is included in the mailing.

Excellent article about a RH drive roadster pickup and six wheel buses. I will not tell
you more. Just keep you on the edge of your seat.

Just wondering how high above the rear panel top beading for a touring car is the bottom of the three rear curtain windows?
Mine is about 8 1/2 inches.
I imagine there is some difference as production lines were rushed.

Regards,
Steve Boothroyd
Sidney, B.C. Canada

a friend asked if I knew what year this car is. Late 20's I think Any other thoughts?
Thanks,
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Ha, ha, ha! I am helping a friend sort out a 1925 Coupe he recently bought and we've fixed all the electrical bugaboos left in it by a previous owner - except for the horn. It's the last thing to be fixed. So that we're all on the same page, it's a typical Model T electric horn, not some other off-brand. I have by-passed the horn button and run a...

The four smaller capacitors were purchased locally 25 years ago but originated from Macs. The larger one is current stock from Langs.

I’m assuming the Langs caps are good to use — is there any concern about the older, smaller ones or should they function and last equally well?

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I posted some time ago about having to possibly pull the motor and hogshead to find the end of a magnetic tool that had come off while doing some exploration which in hindsight wasn't necessary to begin with. I won't get into that story. Not now, anyway. So a fellow club member came over on Sunday and immediately found the offending object and...

I'm looking for a good complete chassis near East TN. Preferably 1917 or older. I'm wanting to build rather a C cab pickup or a ww1 military truck. Thanks

I have been thinking about getting an Aermore whistle but I am not sure what size I should be looking for. The most common size I see is the No. 2, but I don’t know if that will work on a T. I see that there are smaller sizes, but I don’t seem to see them for sale and can’t find dimensions.

I am trying to gauge interest for new Wizard/Simmons jets. Many folks believe that they are the same as the jet found in NH's, but they are NOT, and substituting an NH jet into a Wizard/Simmons, will not give the designed performance.

I am open to opinions as to the need for them...please feel free to email me
Thank you.

NH on left; Wizard...

I am helping a friend who has the above distributor on his car. I am looking for any information pertaining to its operation, timing, and where I might find ignition parts for this unit. I feel that this is a 1920's era distributor. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

I have a 1914 Touring that was rebuilt a couple of thousand miles ago. I run it at reasonable speeds, I change the oil every 400-500 miles(synthetic 10w-30w) and it sounds just as good as new. How often does the engine need to be torn down to inspect the bearings?? How often does the head need to come off and the carbon cleaned off the pistons??...

I'm planning on recharging the magneto on my '14 and it already has an outside oiler at the mag post. Can I safely recharge the mag through the spring-loaded oiler post or will the current be too high and do damage?

:D Maybe building a new home ? :lol: Or a desperate salesman with samples ?

Can anybody tell me what this u-joint is for?
Thanks

I need a source for valves for a Rajo BBR head.
The intake is a 2 diameter head, 5.375 Length.
The Exhaust is a 1.775 head and same length.

Thanks

Anyone know where to get them?

In 1982 I decided a Model T pickup would be more practical than the Racer I had built 12 years earlier. I took the Racer body to our swap meet and a fellow from a Montana museum bought it. I used the money to buy some lumber and materials. Oliver was some help and lots of moral support. The striped, gray fenders from the Racer worked just right...

Do the NH parts fit a Wizard carb?

....my friend in the picture found this in his treasure metal pile and we can’t figure out it’s use. The short vertical piece swivels on the curved cast piece. That solid forged heavy section to the right of the picture has that visible ‘nipple’ on one end and its flat on the other. New Millenium mystery of America’s early Industrial Age.🤔

Getting ready to order a reamer for oversize tappets. What is the recommended
clearance between the tappet and block ?
Thank you for any help .

Over the years I have noticed a trend happening in my garage. 30 years ago my T's always seemed to get mild tweaks for better performance. I have been through a series of upgrades , played with them, and eventually removed them.

I am referring to stuff like Stromberg carburetors, high compression heads, lined brakes, Kevlar bands, Ruckstell rear,...

If I remember right was it about 1919 when Ford made the head light with 2 bulbs, getting old anu ideas, Bob
has clear lens like 1915 ??

Have this axle with a longer leaf spring, 20230115_074637.jpg anyone seen this before?

I recently got this with some parts I bought.
Anybody have any idea what it is or what it is used for?
Thanks

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I have what I hope is not a stupid question….it was stated that the bands should be adjusted with the car running……I get that regarding the low speed band with the external adjustment… but one gentleman suggested that the reverse band should be adjusted in the same manner with the engine running…..front chocked …rear wheels off the ground……the...

I am looking at a T Coupe that is fitted with a “Waukesha Rigardo” intake manifold. Can someone wiser than me tell if this is a factory cylinder head on this motor?

How do you take apart and clean plugs like the Champion X?

Just finished up a campfire tripod for cooking with a Dutch oven. We have started vintage camping with the T and showing the rig at various overlanding events. Showing the T with our vintage camping setup has been very well received at the modern 'overlanding' events. Been needing a tripod for our Dutch oven for a while, so I made one out of 3...

This is a picture of the driver's side rear side panel area. (where the door latches) If I put my tacks that hold the interior panel on the main part of the wood they will be about an inch from the edge. Or are the tacks supposed to go through the holes in the metal and then into the wood?

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On Saturday January 21st I'm hosting the annual university at our bodyshop. We'll be doing a swap meet starting at 9 am and the seminars will start at noon. Lunch will be soup & chill. Should be a good way to break up the cabin fever. The address for anyone interested is Vrana frame and bodyshop, 1405 n Main St, West Bend Wi, 53090. Hope to see...

Does anybody have any plans or patterns for a cowling from the 1914 firewall back into the seating area? I want to streamline my speedster a bit. OR.............could a donor metal cowling from another year be adapted?

Own a Rich Eagle Painting:
Rich has generously donated one of his most beautiful paintings, a 16 X 20 acrylic titled “By the Lake” to support the MTFCA Youth Tour Program. Funds will allow Youth (17 and under) to attend the MTFCA National Tour in Manhattan, KS June 18-23,2023 FREE of charge.
Tickets for the painting will be available starting...

I know the older coupe's offer more room but has anyone removed the Package Shelf on a 24/25 Coupe? If so how hard was this and did you gain the same room offered in the older Coupe's?

Suggestions for installing RedTop battery ???

This is pic of the head on the Speedster I just bought. It is on it's way. What flavor and model carb might this be. TYhe car has not run for a couple of years. What would be advisable, clean the carb, rebuild it, or replace it?

I met John Krug and his wife Diana yesterday at a swap meet in KY yesterday. Nice folks. Check out his website. Pretty interesting! Is now on our bucket list to visit!
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In addition to changing my bands to Kevlar, I also suspect that I have a clogged oil line….. I was going to kill two birds with one stone.
So now the question becomes, Don’t I need to remove the hogshead to get to the oil line on a 27 Tudor?….. this is my first model T project and I don’t know another way to clean the oil line….. am I just missing...

I have a drip at the upper radiator hose clamp on my 11 that I just can't seem to fix. I have moved the lamp. tightened the clamp, moved the hose but it still drips. Any suggestions? Art

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Does anyone have a Coupe that needs a new home? I need an early Coupe for the leg room.

Hi all,
The annual Winter Clinic is Saturday January 21, 2023 in McPherson, Kansas. We'll have a social hour and dinner the night before for anyone who is in town. It should be a fun event. Let me know if you have any questions.

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It’s been a while since I needed any, but what would a set of Stutzman clincher style wheels cost? Anyone purchase a set recently?

Several of us retrieved a very neglected 26 touring car today for one of our younger members at a very attractive purchase price.
The young purchaser took it home. Evidently the wife was not impressed and told the young buyer they were not going to keep the car.
The son of the buyer, maybe less than 10 years old, was told by his father what the...

Has anyone else experienced a kevlar band on the brake drum swelling?

Mine did during a short 10-mile trip and caused the car to stall. Not much room left to loosen the band - running out of threads on the pedal shaft.

I would assume that bands settle in and compress some over time.

Can anyone recommend the cheapest new 21 inch tires? I just don't have much cash to spare at the moment. My car has 60- 70 year old tires that are still holding up but I am wanting to put the miles on the old girl come spring and I definitely have concerns about getting too far from home with tires so old.

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Does anyone have the patterns for a 26/7 Roadster Interior and would be willing to share them? I'd be willing to purchase them as well. If someone has the patterns for a 26/7 Roadster Top I'd be interested in those as well.

Thanks,
James

Here is a 1924 Hoover bodied TT funeral coach. According to the article it was in good shape and then recently restored. It sold at auction for $44.000 dollars.

Wonder how it would be looked upon at a car show or a parade. Interesting to be sure.

We’re getting there…..

Click on the link to see the run. The music stops about halfway through if anyone wants to just hear the motor:

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Ok, I moved from Texas to Ohio and wasn't prepared for the cold winter storm...yes, my head cracked. Many of the purest may have noticed, I swapped a 1926 engine into my 1916. Forgive me, I'm old (not wise) and prefer to use a starter. However, I still have the original 16 motor.

So, here's my question,...

Sorry this is so late! I've been swamped with membership renewals and donations. Thank you all for giving and supporting the Museum. Your gifts are greatly appreciated!

I wanted to announced the new board members.

Joining us for the first time are David Currier from Maine and Victor 'Ray' Foster, Jr. from California. They will both serve a...

The first Vintage Ford of the year arrived early in coastal mid-New Jersey.

Wasn’t there a project several years ago to reproduce a certain amount of Model T’s. It may have been to celebrate the the centennial of the 1909 Model T. I recall it was discussed on the forum for a short time, but never heard anything else about it. How many were made and what became of them? Jim Patrick

Cool video on the Model T Ford

I had this intake on my 1911 open torpedo which was built about 3rd week in Oct. I have known this car since 1982., now I own it this intake has always been on it. Is this correct? And this intake has no part number on it but does not look like the reproductions I have seen. the casting is smoother then any of the repros. Any info would be...

I am getting ready to install the glass into the windshield frame. The attached photos show one corner of the frame. There are three screws that hold the frame together at the two corners.

The fourth photo shows the two screws that holds the bracket that fits into the piece on the right. The fifth photo shows these, and the screw that fits into...

Tom Carnegie is renowned for his promotion
and participation in The Montana 500.

He also is a supplier of Model T parts
as owner of Antique Auto Ranch in
Spokane, Washington:

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Tom is humble - knowledgeable - helpful
and …. as it turns out …. talented in ….

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FJ

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Looking to buy large stashes of used and rebuildable Model T Ford ignition coils.
I have customers who want rebuilt coils, but have no cores.
I will buy your used coils outright for cash, trade for rebuilt coils or take your extras as full or partial payment. The more coils you have the better this works. I have done these deals many times over...

Just wanted to check how close I need to be.
I've been told side to side clearance of the carrier and thrust washer assembly inside the axle housings is small say 5 to 10 thou
I've read and seen in the rear axle CD the axle should be snug with no side to side movement but easy to turn, I have .0075 movement, is this acceptable can I just add a...

Hello Everyone,

I thought you would like to see how my new top and interior look installed!

Video Link:

I bought the full kit from Mike at Classtique Upholstery -

Knowing my own limits, and also knowing that if I made a mistake installing myself I would always focus on that mistake, I paid a professional to install everything for me.

The...

Hi all,
Can anyone tell me how to tell if my spring perches are bent? Do they normally become bent through use, overuse, or from an accident? The both perches were installed facing forward on the axle (boss facing forward not backward as it should be). The passenger side of the axle had a SMALL amount of correct (negative) caster. The driver side...

Good evening Forum Chums

Going to be doing a removal and reinstall of my hogshead to install new bands….any tips on hogshead removal and reinstall would be greatly appreciated….thanks in advance!
Cheers!
Ed

Will a 1914 radiator fit my 1916 Touring car?
Thanks,
Campbell Tellman
Beaufort, NC

We know Walt's car is a Model T, because cheapskate Avery advises him to stick with black. Interesting insight as to what colors and combinations appealed to folks in the day . Rather different tastes nowadays.

What is this on my 1927 Touring passenger side, front, running board bracket?

I am in the beginning of an engine tare down for rebuilding on a 26. When unbuttoning,…removing the hogshead, it became apparent that the front of the ball cap had been touching the clutch spring support as both surfaces are scored.
This engine has been rebuilt not many miles ago, and has some other issues so this is not a huge surprise.
Wondering...

I bought a 5/16 rivet set to install the running board brackets on my new frame but the rivet set head is not the correct size, it appears to be the correct size for the factory formed head on the rivet I got from Langs. What size rivet set do I need to do the the unfinished end of the rivet to match what Ford did, like in the second photo.

I don’t know that I’ve seen this discussed here before but here are some minor differences in the body castings of the later Pat’d Dec 22, 1914 Holley G carburetors and the earlier Pats Pending carburetors and how they evolved from the 1912 H1. The 1913 Model S, while similar in design, was significantly different.
A telltale feature you can spot...