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Greetings Once Again,

Our family managed to get some work done on our 1914 Roadster this past weekend.

Restored coils were installed after cleaning and adjusting coil box contacts, checked, cleaned, and adjusted all wires and confirmed strong magneto output by having my son hold the spark plug.

It was an accident ok?

Then after pre oiling...

The rain held off for Dixie's Diner cruise night last night, so we got the Speedster out one more time. The girls there are good to us and posed for pictures.
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This Packard caught my eye. It might not have ever been restored so this at least saved it from the wrecking yard.
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Our local club showed up to support it with...

Ford Motor Company advertised that it's new four cylinder Model B was capable of starting on the switch. Yesterday, I received my first one. I took the B back to Dean Yoder's. He helped me with a few problems I encountered (he's mechanically inclined, me, not so much......). We went to start it for the first time, and below is a few second video...

Yesterday I jumped into the project of replacing my transmission band with Kevlar bands. I assumed my bands were cloth, because it seems that cloth was the most popular band material. When I removed the rivets and looked at the old bands I was surprised to see a thin cloth band, with a leather band attached to the cloth band. Additionally the...

The Jelf Report. Morning Edition.
Steve was wiped out after yesterday’s travel. Not long in distance but car was running horribly with numerous stops to figure it out. Steve got here (LakeOzark) around 6:30 pm. Ate and crashed at 8:30 pm and got a good 12 hour snooze.
This morning the timer was replaced and found the cause by accident . #1...

As we approach Old Car Festival, a few of us are tentatively planning to meet at Piquette Friday Afternoon. For anyone interested, and in town for OCF, we tentatively plan to have three Model K, and the light six (1906/07 prototype, one of one) converge on the Piquette plant Friday afternoon. With the Porter K on display, this will make five Ford...

I’ve changed a few sets of bands by removing the hogs head. I want to try to do a set through the hole. I have detachable ears. I will try on my ‘24 or ‘22 and they do not have newer larger brake drum. The one car just needs brake band the other needs all 3. I’ve been told it’s too hard, it will distort the bands, I need to feed them in front of...

Hey All,
I am installing a new firewall. I have it all ready except for the finish. It is made of birch plywood and it is very blond, almost white. I have seen others in pictures and they appear to be stained a darker color.. Any advice about a stain that was used. We have a 1916 touring. I also have a new patent plate to install. Where should it...

My hood former has a hole for the rod from radiator to cowl. Above the hole is another smaller hole about 3/8 . It is exposed to weather. What does it do?
Thanks,
Campbell Tellman
Beaufort, NC

Is there a way to identify connecting rods without weighing them? The weight might vary because of missing or damaged babbit. Ford may have used several suppliers for the rods but were any stamped ith a part number or identifier of some kind?
Thanks

I turned my phone so my finger would not get over the lens. Apparently it comes out upside down on you tube and you tube does not allow you to flip a video. This is part of my journey to Dearborn when I went through Southern Indiana where the roads are all dirt and stone. All the houses were trailer homes as well, so I think this is a very low...

The Jelf Report
Our dauntless hero made it in about 6:30 this evening. Had a number of issues he tried addressing along the way. He’s ordered a new tire for his front overnighted but here in rural mid Missourah might be two sometimes three days. That will give us a couple of days to sort out the poor running. He had tried switching carbs against...

I just get the master coil I bought on 06/22/2022 on the clasified part of this forum.
It travelled to me passing by Australia and took about 80 days to get home.
Jule Vern wrote about his travel around the world in 80 days in the late 1800.

I hope it took some photos during the travel.

Again an other USPS and Bpost experience I will not forgret...

Surprised that the HCCA would allow this car to be posted in the classifieds as original (correct me if I'm wrong) when it's quite obvious that it has been restored. Perhaps the seller is hoping someone won't know the difference?

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I had the opportunity to acquire these tire irons from the estate of the late Phil Knighton, along with some speedometers and clocks. I was unaware of the variety of tire irons produced by tire manufacturers. I know that some of these tire irons were included in early Ford tool kits (Diamond and Firestone) but I don't know if any others were...

I am disassembling a 26 engine and two of the exhaust valves are rusty and won't come out. Has anyone tried heat and rapid cooling to free them up or can they be cut off and drilled out?

Friend to me Steve Jelf and Martyn Vowell
Derrick Pang was able to give his young son a ride in Steve’s Runabout at OCF. Hmm having trouble posting a vid ??

The Jelf Report Evening Edition
Steve made good time today leaving Tuscola Illinois across the the state and halfway through Missourah. He’s camping out in Jefferson City Mo tonight.
Only had one hiccup, in New Florence Mo he discovered his right front tire was down to the cord. He replaced the tire with a new but older “Nonskid “ that he...

As a lot of you may know by now we moved to Tennessee from Indiana so I have been transferring the titles of my cars which should be no big deal. I have had the 1909 Touring registered in Indiana in my name for years and have driven it on tour and to local car shows and just for fun many times. I transferred about 7 titles back in July of this...

Good day everyone
I searched this site and found the exact same question I am interested in. But the search only found the post with the question. I could not find the responses. Is there a way to see the responses?
Bye for now
Mike

So my dad and I picked this up this weekend. An 18 touring in almost an original state. How should we preserve the finish on this car? We will keep it original. Suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I restore cars and this is a new one on me. Thanks Mark Eyre 52F810EF-5F59-4552-9817-8B7228B44B57.jpeg

Hello. Is 90 octane, non-ethanol gasoline safe to use in a Model T engine?

Thank you.
Mike

I have sanded and wiped it clean with a damp cloth. What is the best way to finish my wooden steering wheel for my 1916 T?

Hi Mike back in 2012 (yesterday in Model T years) you had a photo of a Closed Door Mirror for a Coupe with sucicide doors. Whould you have a drawing or any informantion on it??

Evening Forum Chums….. Does anyone have a lead on who can rebuild a Holly Vaporizer Carb from my 27 Tudor for me?…..many thanks!

Working on a Bridgeport Double Tube Pump.
Looking for help on the check valve at air outlet.
1. Which way does the valve go in?
2. Is there to be a spring in check valve?
3. Direction of pump leathers in tubes?
Thanks for any help
Rick.

I am currently restoring a 1922 Model TT that I purchased as a basket case. I've run into some confusion regarding wiring the coil box.
With the switch on the dash and the motor having a starter, how do I wire the magneto post and the battery post? Am I correct in my interpretation
that i wire the bottom bronze strip in the box to the magneto post...

My wife Maryann and I just returned from Poland Spring, Maine, headquarters for this year’s Mainely T Tour. We had beautiful weather and perfect Model T roads and destinations thanks to careful planning and execution by Downeast Chapter officers and volunteers. This is our favorite antique car event of the year and we highly recommend it if you...

Has anyone come up with a source for TW Timer brushes? I have found brushes that meet the correct design and size but are made of carbon and are too soft. The material of the original is copper carbon. Here's an illustration: TW brush.jpg

I have a taper leaf rear spring I plan to disassemble and restore next week.

I've not ever done this, nor have I seen anyone else do it. So, I'm asking.....

Once disassembled and bead blasted, do I apply the Slip Plate before any paint, or do I prime and paint the leaves, then apply the slip plate, then assemble?

Please weigh in with...

Congrats to Gary Houser.

Quick question, this steering bracket should only have one bushing in it….on the opposite side of this shaft opening….right? And this is just a test fit, don’t give me grief about color/finish!🤪

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Does anybody know the dimension of the wishbone ball? I need to use one that is a little worn and was wondering if I could add weld material and grind it down to correct size. Thanks,
John

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You all are invited!

The catalogs from two suppliers lists leather pads for Ts from 1909 to 1920 and rubber pads for Ts 1921 to 1927. I was curious why the difference, so I purchased both. Photos attached.

Any thought on why the difference?

I am leaning toward using the rubber pads for my 27 coupe. Look at the pads for the rear spring. It seems to me that the rubber...

In need of a float for a Holley S. Reproduction not made. Holley G float too large.
a) Is there a substitute that can be amended/tweaked?
b) Is there someone who has one for sale?
c) Has anyone trimmed a modern material G float to create an S float?
d) Is there a coating that can be applied onto the original cork float to prevent gasoline...

I have a 1916 Touring with a brass radiator. Can someone give me the dimensions for my front cushion spring?

Over three days this fall, in addition to pulling up countless beer cans and glass bottles, West’s crew of 16 volunteers also discovered what they believe to be the remains of a 100-year-old Ford Model T automobile: four narrow tires, a chassis and an engine block resting on the silty lake bed.

I purchased a 1916 Touring. It came with only 1 seat cushion. How do I know if it is for the front or back or will it fit either? Here is what Langs has to offer for the back rest for the front & rear:

Seat Backrest Spring, Touring and Roadster Front Backrest Item Number: TS7028 Year: 1914-1916 $99.00

Seat Backrest Spring, Touring and Roadster...

So when I applied for insurance at J C Tyalor Co they are requiring me to clear coat the finish on my car.. Is that an unusual request are a common practice ? I'm confused I like the patina

What torque should I use for my wire wheels? I am using washers under the nuts to protect the powder coat.

My '14 roadster has no angle brackets between the rear fender and splash apron. Should they be there or not. Langs catalog shows them starting in 1915.

With the steering all apart I can upgrade anything that needs it. I measured the pitman arm and tie rod balls. They look ok (not too worn) but they are both a bit out of round. But, I don’t know how big new unworn ones are so I can’t really judge how worn they are. The drag link had a bent penny in both ends so there is some wear in the system. It...

Does anybody know of a source for the Funprojects voltage regulators?

I am trying to adjust my free neutral on my 21 touring. I have a good neutral with the brake lever straight up but when I come to a stop at a light and depress the pedal for neutral it wants to creep. I presume I need to adjust the clutch lever bolt but do I back it off or turn it in ? Also I have read that there should be some free play on the...

Is it possible to heat the hand brake lever to bend it straight?

I’ve heard it can be bent cold with LARGE wrenches. Not wanting to buy tools just for one job.

Hi everybody,

I've been working on converting a starter to run on 12v and have run into a problem. The field coils have been rewired and the starter has been assembled. When I hook power to it I can get the shaft to turn about a 1/16 and then it won't turn any further. My question is, do you have to change how the brushes are wired? The diagram I...

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I am going to inspect a '26 closed metal cab TT tomorrow, and I value the insight from those on this forum to help me. Are there any common problems or hard-to-acquire parts I may need to be aware of? Are the metal phone booth cabs any more scarce or common? This truck has a two speed rear but no aux trans. Thank you in advance!

I have my reconditioned gas tank installed under the front seat in my 1919 touring. A gas line has not been installed yet. I installed the sediment bulb in the tank before putting the tank in the car, I used Permatex Aviation grade sealant on the threads. Now I would like to find out if it leaks any around the sediment bulb threads. I would like...

Saturday 4 p.m. on the Activity Field (where the car games are held) opposite the buildings.

See you there and stay safe!

I believe I will need to rent a scooter to get around Hershey.

Can anyone steer me towards where I can find one?

Thank you.

Bill Everett

bill.everett@epickett.com

On my way home from work on US 24 between Wabash and Miami counties IN. I remember reading about the car in the club magazine, Maybe he’s heading to the OCF? 8A8E0614-9033-4DB0-A529-406CCC370C8F.jpeg

Hershey AACA Fall Meet is approaching. We do not bringing regular reproduction items to sell on the field. We want to show off and sell some of the wonderful used items that Don Lang has had hidden away for many years. We will be bringing a large array of Used and New Old Stock items to sell as well as your pre-orders. So this means if there is...

Hi there.

I would like to present you a video of the commemoration about the Ford Montier, which took place in France in the city of Richelieu.
Many of you have certainly heard of Charles Montier who transformed Ford Ts into real racing cars with which he took part in prestigious races in Europe, in particular the 24 Hours of Le Mans.
Richelieu...

Forum Chums!……. First of all, thanks to all the folks who gave me some fabulous input on Rod bearing Babbit replacement…. I’m thinking what the heck, if one rod bearing self-destructed maybe it’s time just to do all of them….. I thought it would just be easier to pull the head remove the pistons dress the cylinders possibly replace the rings and...

Can anyone tell me what the holes along the 26-27 running board shield (splash aprons) are for? I understand that the front ones are for mounting to the hood riser. The ones I can't see any use for (on a 27 Roadster anyway) are the 5 holes along the top which are just under the body.

I have posted a picture of Rootlieb's product because it is...

...friends in England, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. Queen Elizabeth was truly a remarkable Sovereign and beacon of civility in a troubled world.

What is the purpose of the little spring loaded pin inside the bendix drive GEAR and how important is it. I have included a link to a catalog photo of the part. THANKS !

For anyone interested, we plan to have four “Ford Sixes” and a B outside the Piquette Avenue Plant tomorrow (Friday) afternoon, around 2:00 to 4:00 pm EST. From there we’ll head to OCF and the Friday evening get together.
Cheers,
Rob

At the start of the Dearborn to Lansing Tour this morning:

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This is from my files and notes on my Muncie gearbox / transmission which is a 3 speed (low, direct, overdrive) with reverse. Here is the information gathered up and in one place. One of the pictures is of the gear shift knob I cut the shift pattern with a Dremel tool. Instead of numbers I drilled one hole for first, two holes for second, and...

I'll be going through Classtique Upholstery and pulling the trigger on a full new interior for my 23' Touring car in the near future.

I was curious if anyone has any recommended upholstery shops in or near my area that I can trust to do a great job?
I don't mind traveling, but if something was within 3-5 hours that would be perfect.

What ever happened to the B & B Brass Works? The proprietor was Bud Dinger, in Grandville, Mi.

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Good day everyone
Im looking for a dyno spark advance curve for model Ts
That would be a graph with spark on the vertical axis and rpm on the horizontal axis at maximum torque.

Good afternoon forum Chums….. I recently spun a bearing on my number two connecting rod………And I’m going replace it without pulling the engine.
I have rebuilt several engines with conventional rod bearings, never with the Babbits so I’m kind of in the fact finding mission phase….. In short any input would be greatly appreciated as I try to get up...

I have a taper leaf rear spring that I bought disassembled. It appears to be undamaged, and complete.

Can anyone rebuild / reassemble this spring?

Please let me know.

Thank you.

Bill Everett

bill.everett@epickett.com

Today we picked up our 24 touring from a vey good Mennonite tarp shop in Walnut Creek, Ohio, not far from Canton. Erbs tarp shop is the name of the shop. David is the owner and works there with his three sons. He did the side curtains, a rear boot, and a cover used for weather protection and used to haul the car down the road. He also made pouches...

Steve is currently in Dearborn,Mi and checked in and at his assigned parking spot camping out and eating dinner
Sad part at the Apple Store in Ann Arbor the news is his laptop has a cracked screen and needs replacement , he’ll do that when he gets home and write up his adventure and lots of pics to share.
A reminder to all that are attending...

I had some of Scott Conger's NH needle and seat assemblies sent to Donnie Brown for inclusion with a radiator cap to be posted to me. Thank you both.
USPS tracking reveals a sorry story.
Aug 3, 10.43am Posted, Clinton AR
Aug 3, 7.10pm Arrived USPS facility, Little Rock AR
Aug 6, 7.30am Arrived Chicago International Distribution Centre.
Aug 6,...

Only seven takers. Had more in previous years. Should we cancel?

I went to the MVA in Maryland. The guy made me so made I had to say, 'THANK YOU' and walk away!!

I kept telling him the car did not come with a title. I bought it at a flea market type place (Hershey.) He kept telling me that all cars have a title. Of course they are suppose to come with a title. But not all cars bought at garage sales have a...

Made it. 1/2 the journey is done. Hope Steve made it, too.

We find Steve in Ann Arbor Mi.
He has an appointment for 1:30 pm at the Apple Store. He’s hoping he can get in a little sooner. Best of luck Steve.
His new to him Laptop has been acting a little buggy.

Hey y'all,

The South Carolina Model T Club is finally having an in-person meeting (yes, fortunately Covid slowed down but there was still this thing called hot humid South Carolina summer.) We will be meeting at 10 AM Saturday Sep 10 over in Lexington (right next to Columbia, the capital).

So far we have about 5 T's and 10 folks. So if you just...

Two Sheens of Currently Available Early Ford Upholstery Leather

Hello fellow Model T-ers,
What are your thoughts on the following statement? Is it about right?:

“The installed upholstery-leather pictured below is what restorers typically use. However, the sample swathe draped over the top has more of “gloss” sheen.

In general, it takes...

I am going to try to rebuild this carb.
Is it savable?
I currently have it sitting in a can of carb cleaner.
The brass bits seem to have been in for a long time.
Is there a better way to get these out to be replaced?
One more question, what size of tap and hex stud that is to be used to fill the channels once the brass has been removed?...

I wish to obtain a back issue of the Vintage Ford. It is Vol. 45, Number 4, and I believe is from 2011. It features Conquering Ben Nevis. If I cannot obtain a back issue, I would like high resolution copies of period photos of Conquering Ben Nevis in a 1910 Ford Model T.
Thank you.

I will be restoring for sale either a Ruckstell or Perfecto over the winter. I anticipate using a 13-14 RE housing and cast end radius rods, although I am flexible. The restoration will be top shelf using the best parts I have and I have a lot of parts for either. I'll probably use new axles and drive shafts. Item will be priced accordingly and...

His computer is acting up and sadly can’t give a personal travel report tonight.
I googled an Apple Store and he’ll be stopping by one in Ann Arbor Mi tomorrow and see what can be done.

Good day Forum Chums ………quick update…….. I have ascertained that the knocking in the engine was a spun rod bearing…number 2… Since I have the pan down……I’m up to replace all four…Additionally….I saw a video from MTFCA….. Delineating how to replace a camshaft without taking the engine out…. I might do a 280 cam …….along with freshening up the...

Trying to install the name plate on my Ruckstell Rear.
Name plate came with solid brass drive rivets.
Holes in the housing seem to small for the rivets.
Any suggestions. Special tool needed ??

Thanks,

Paul

The 33rd annual Ohio Jamboree has finished up for 2022, and man want a time it was! The Country Roads T & A Club did fantastic job, under the direction of Norm Bailey. The food, roads and events were all top notch. And getting to see old friends, some that only attend this annual event, is why we all continue to come back year after year.
Bid...

Steve left western Indiana this morning and about two hours out the engine backfired and died, he coasted to a stop wiggled wires,cranked over engine all coils hummed. Called his mechanic/builder in Oklahoma who concluded it was possibly a fuel issue, tapped the carburetor with his spark plug wrench and with one pull of the crank it fired right...

I brought home a 1919 center door projects a few months ago. The car is missing the splash aprons. I have heard that they are unique to this body style. Is this true?

Thank you,
Stephen

Is it worth it to attempt to have a shop rod out a round tube radiator or just save up the allowance money and buy a brand new brassworks radiator?

I know that bands are available in a variety of materials. My question is which one gives the most braking power?

I could use a little help identifying these headlights a friend found in the family barn.

My guess is a black era T. The brackets don't look right, but I really don't know those cars.

I have an Aermore number 2 that is missing it's longest tube. Does anyone have the overall length of the tube? I can make a guess but it would be out of tune.

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My 1916 Touring is in the paint shop about done. I want to purchase a new top and install it myself. Where is the best place to purchase it and get the instructions I need?

Fourth Day
After getting a late start in Springfield. Steve has passed over into Indiana and is in for the night in crawfordsville In.
Car is running well and no issues to report. Hopes to be in Ohio tomorrow.
Special shout out to Kieth Gumbinger for being able to spare a tube for Steve and will pick up at the Meet. It’s been recommended that...