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With the tank out, the rivets can be installed tangs out in the webbing as the factory fitted it, BUT, the two lowest on the sides will need different treatment because the rivets there cannot be inserted due to a double panel precluding same. Was the second panel fitted after the webbing? Most restorers resort to pop rivets at this location....

I look at these and try to imagine what it was like that then. And I marvel at the fact that these are every day cars. Any photos of these vintage with the Halloween theme?

Can I borrow your son?

I heard from.a very reliable source that Joe is not taking ons y new work for a while He has to catch up with workload.

Art Mirtes

Nice pictures, Rich! Thank you for posting them.

Keith

I was there for the entire auction and bought a few things, an original model T stamped steel end muffler/exhaust pipe assy., a model T low radiator steel firewall, a Dake arbor press, and a few hand tools. Most of the stuff went cheap in my opinion. The model A 4 door got bid up to $10k and didn't sell. A freshly rebuilt model A engine on a stand...

After removing the engine pans, the we nine ran cooler. However, the valves were ground at the same time so I don't know what contributed to the cooler condition
Shortly after I bought the car in 1977, an elderly man looked at my car and said he was surprised that the car has engine pans because almost everyone took them off st the first...

Final day, mostly at the car show: About 7 hours, 5-1/2 miles. Didn't quite catch all of the swap meet. Total walking distance right around 23 miles.

I bought a nice set rom Chaffin's several years ago. At that time, they were lefts and rights. Talk to Dave see what he has now. Depending on which side they can be above the hinge or below.

Don't ever stop doing this Tom!

I just went to my Home Depot and bought two. $1.88 each. THANKS! bobt

Some more photos.

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I was told they were early production & determined unnecessary & dropped.
I have no supporting evidence.

this is in no way intended to be argumentative, but other than opening up the holes a Teeny Tiny bit, they worked just fine on my car. Perhaps mine, bought some years ago, were made by someone else. Good luck and have fun with your project.

For Duane -- Yes, I'm 99% sure that your 7 17 393430 represents a Jul 1917 393430 body number.

For Ryan -- Zooming in I agree that the first visible number is a 4 (see below). Some of the other numbers are hard to know for sure -- but not critical -- as so far none of them appear to be the date code for the body.

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For both...

Yes, like Mark G says, they will usually work in a pinch that way. I did that twenty to thirty years ago. Ran it for maybe fifty miles just stuck together.

The silly thing is, that many dozens of after-market fuel savings or cleaner burning devices are nothing more than a manufactured stable secondary in line spark gap. In theory, in fact, adding...

John Regan and I saw that car and the 1909 touring that lives in the same garage a few years ago, both are very interesting cars!

Here is a clearer picture of it.
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Road service Car Built by Leo Conner Breckenridge, Texas 1926
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Hope this is the proper place to put this. I want give a shout out to Birdhaven for getting back to me in a timely manner about a part I was having trouble finding. They are professional and courteous. I much appreciate all our vendors for helping us keep these T s going!

Awesome! Mostly folks complain. Nice to see a refreshing post like yours.

There was a picture of Chris in a tour in Australia. So maybe that is why it hasn't been corrected.
Norm

Again asking questions!
That’s a great idea of using a lift device for a transmission cover. I’ll bet these aren’t the first rigging that’s been used for that purpose. It would make things easier for sure. Maybe others can post a picture of how they did I it.

Thanks guys. That makes sense.

Thanks guys. I think the racer motor weight is more. Aluminum crankcase but 300 cu in cylinder jug area make it heavier. Going with a T flywheel should make it similar but a little heavier. Now to see if it will fit in a smaller trailer. The frame is 2” longer than standard.
Cheers,
Rob

June 4 is also the date Henry Ford test drove the Quadracycle 26 years earlier in 1896.

Send it to Russ Furstow. He can replace the number cylinder with a beautiful plastic replacement and Goethe rest of it working as well. Jim Patrick

I agree with Steve. They are likely Hayes rims. The relief in the felloe will take the Hayes rims with the foot on the lug. However, this means they can also take other brand rims with fixed lugs, so any fixed lug rim will suit.
John, my 1924 Tarrant special tourer had 4.40 x 23 tyres as part of the special package. BE tryes in that size are long...

Allen, Lang's has the windshield hinges, a friend of mine made the dies and made a few so they have the extra's. Hope this helps.

Depending on how far it is and how soft the bottom is, and how far from shore they might be able to drive the first one out but need to keep the carburetor from drawing water. If it will start. The second one will defanatly need help to get it out. No cell phone in those days, so they will have to walk. Hopefully not very far.
Norm

The wagon on the left looks like an onmibus.

The inside diameter of any replacement hose would affect the operation of the horn. An ID close to the original would be best. If a larger ID hose, or a longer one, is used, a larger bulb would probably compensate.

Steve. Sounds like you have a mixture of parts. Which brand are you trying to put together? Any of the four major brands would just use the truck rear end for a TT. A Ruckstell is not needed but of course would be desired. The geared Snowflyer hubs were only sold for T rear ends and later Model A's. The buggy springs and wood top skis sound like...

Very nice truck, glad to see that you get it out!

I saw few Model Ts in Minneapolis in the years before WWII. My dad moved us to Minneap[olis 1946. When I bought my 1910 in 1946 and at the age of 14 drove it around the neighborhood, It attracted much attention. I bought a Center door in 1947 for $25 and drove it to school.. The only Model Ts I saw were ones put away in garages or offered for...

I don't know about the mag gears but hey, from a fellow Cedar Rapids model T er.

The first picture looks like they were waiting for a gusher to come in. I wonder if it did.

Hot sun, I'd guess. I can't tell where that location was, but it looks like there are some sort of spires or conical roof structures in the far distance and slightly to the right of the roadway. The 'Old Dallas County Courthouse has a number of similar structures around the rooftop. It was built in the 1890s. If those are part of it, the street is...

If the glass is too tight in the channel, making it hard to roll up, that can cause the glass to tilt or try to jam. the lifting mechanism, as pointed out above, does not push straight upward on the glass during most of its travel. The glass should roll up fairly smoothly and easily. A great many door glasses will try to tilt or bind if they are...

83! What a milestone.
It looks like a great group of cars. Something for everyone.
Rich

I have a couple availalbe - they're the screw in type.

I would NEVER redo a coil for what folks charge retail for the work...it is a gift to the hobby.

Lang's has a limited number of new copper head gaskets in stock with a bunch more expected soon !

Thanks George - hell of a turnout !

The reproduction bowel I bought was tested with water, however with gasoline would leak and I had to fit a shutoff valve between it and the tank.

Interesting to me is the seemingly different width of the street in the two pictures. The original looks much wider than the current image. Guess that's what a wide angle cellphone lens does.

only 9 days left to submit photos for the 2023 Model T Calendar. The Calendar link is also now on the website if you wanted to preorder a calendar. There will be a limited number printed. Thank you so far for all the great photos submitted!

Don't worry, I won't wash off any patina. :D The only patina is the F-111 Red primer showing in many spots. :D

An interesting photo to be sure. Of the fourteen or fifteen cars that can be seen? One of them is a very light color , nearly white! I wonder what the car is?

Awesome! Thanks for keeping the tradition going !

The lug nuts are from WW 2 jeeps. I have a couple of them and would be interested in buying the 5 from you if you are interested in selling them. $1.00 a piece.
Thanks.
John
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Tyler, I tried to send you a PM, but I don't know if I did it correctly. You can email me at bruce.ardith@gmail.com.

Bruce

Yes. A small bead of “The Right Stuff” (my preference) or “Ultra Black” black RTV, between the rubber seal and the lip of the steel window frame will not hurt. Don’t use so much that it squeezes out. If a little does squeeze out, you can gently remove it from the glass with a new, very sharp razor after it cures. They make a fast drying type and...

Well I got the scope I also made some adjustments. Take a look at my thread Getting Rattles Back on the Road.

Take a look You'll laugh you'll cry. You may call me a bone head. LOL

Here's a few photos of ours.

Rob, don’t forget to leave a 1/4 inch of window down so you won’t suffocate. I slept in my vw bug off the highway many years ago and the highway patrol knocked on my window at three in the morning. When I opened the window there was a sucking sound. A nother hour or two and I would have suffocated in my sleep. Just thinking.

This is the stuff.

Yes. At landfall, they recorded storm surges of up to 12 feet. That is enough to cover a Model T and the first floor of the average home. Jim Patrick

Snubbers were basically friction type shock absorbers. Many early ones were friction devices which acted to control, or snub, spring rebound. Later versions, like the Hartford units, were double acting. Hydraulic shocks (snubbers) are far superior to friction types. Springs alone do little to absorb and dissipate road shock, which allows the...

Interesting that the second to last picture, gassing up the center door from the passenger side. You would have to bring the hose across so much of the interior. Guess the pumps are on the curb side so you would have to? Cannot go against traffic......
Thank you so much for posting the pictures!!!
Rich

For Instructions on in car magneto recharge put this link in your favorites.

The weather was kind to us for the week but no place to hang around after all was done and dusted, well no dust really, just another 4 inches of rain on it's way :o

Thanks looks like I got a pile of nos front shackle links.

I don't know how close you may be to a school with a mechanical education shop but you may suggest they put the car together with a share of the sales price for the completed car when sold. Even a model T club may be an avenue to look into.
I would prefer to have a complete car from original with parts and numbers that match. If it were closer...

I'd stay away from used parts in this case. It would be very difficult to get a used ring & pinion set up and adjusted exactly as they were set up when last run, and any other adjustment is likely to result in excess noise and rapid wear. Mixing used gears often results in problems, and replacing just one gear out of a used set with a new one is...

Tractor, stationary engine maybe truck. The fuel mixture needle is not setup to be adjustable from the seat, so my guess is the first two.

The original bulbs were 9 volts, in series 18 volts resistance and the mag rarely reached that voltage at normal driving. Most bulbs today are 6 volts and pared will only attain a 12 volt resistance, still OK if you don't rev it too high. For an added safety a third 6 volt bulb can be wired in series into the circuit for a total of 18 volts...

Mel Miller spent some time in the movie industry he was in Hawaii 50 as Dano's double, whenever there was a fight scene or rolling in the mud that was Mel not Dano. He was also in a movie with Elliot Gould and Candice Bergen in GETTING STRAIGHT, he was a bartender and said about a dozen words in the movie. He lived in Albany Oregon until the end...

My apologies! I did not catch that small difference in brackets.

that bump at the bottom is a countersunk hole for (I recall), a #12 x 3/4 screw. The bump up is a rivet hold that the cowl rivets to...and the small holes around the square hole are also for flathead rivets to the cowl...with the square hole for a carriage bolt to the steel...

Oil Boom. Sleepy farm town becomes an ongoing riot overnight.

I always bend the other tab up a little bit, the bend it the rest of the way with a large pair of water pump pliers.

Other directions have noted the starter shaft can be bent by hitting that tab with a hammer to compete the bend.

I would be very tempted to carefully remove the original mounting brackets, fill rivet holes etc. Then take common model T post mounts, remove the rusty beyond salvage buckets, and reshape the posts to a nice goose neck to hold the drums lower and more forward. Position those under these drums rotated to hold straight up and down for the lenses...

My upholstery came from Carters Cut & Cover back in 1980. I don't have the instructions anymore, but they were worthless anyway.

Car belongs to. Brian Andrews. He did a nice job with it. Been on many tours with him driving this car.

One of the Telephone Operators was one of two that almost hit us on West Cliff Drive in Santa Cruz two years ago. And to boot, the Driver of that car was the same person who screams in and out of our Mobile home park dropping off two kids at a baby sitters house daily.....and I have screamed at her as she drove by at 25 mph in a 5 MPH zone w kids...

Thank you all for the information

Lukas, thanks for Bud's email address. I'm always surprised at the great willingness to help here in the forum. This is a big help for me as a newbie in this Hibby, especially here in Switzerland.

I will take some time to write down all my brake questions and then contact Bud.

Many greetings from Switzerland

Thanks, I believe it was late 2016. We got our '21 Touring in September that year. I was working on finishing the restoration and had planned to drive it for the first time on July 18, 2017 but another driver crossed the center and hit me head-on that day (I was driving our 1956 Ford F100) when I was coming home from work. I was in two different...

Snyders seems to have LED's that I believe are for both head and tail lamps, as well as multiple voltages. Some aren't cheap. But take a look at them. I'm not ready to make the move just yet, I drive my brass cars mostly so obviously wouldn't work! And seldom drive st night even in the '25 Fordor.

Michael,... don’t do it. Too overbalanced. Here’s a few pics of a TT tool box on the T Party... doubles as a bench. Have other pics. They wouldn’t load. Bench seat hinges up and 2 slide out drawers both side.

Model T folks, whether you’re a MTFCA member or not - stop by the MTFCA booth at C4Q 37 - 39 area for a visit.
There’ll be 5 Club Directors there, a couple Model Ts, a chair to rest and some water.
The Director hosting the 2023 National Tour in Manhattan, Kansas ( Stu Tomlinson) will be there to tell you about the great time
He’s got planned for...

Grant,
My '27 Roadster has 1/4 carriage bolts with thin hex nuts.

In my hunble opinion, Surf city Gene got it right, in 60 some years of assembling engines, the use of first GE silicone, and then, and way better, Right Stuff has made habitual leakers, dry. David Sullivan, Bellingham WA

Driving your T with a slipping low speed will heat the drum up fairly quick and with Kevlar bands they will heat the drum up pretty quick with it slipping.

Something will give and it won’t be the Kevlar low speed band material. Transmission drums are around 300.00 and up,depending who you buy from plus the extra fun you’ll have pulling the...

Got it Thanks agian.

Hap and all - I actually have the full version - now copied to my PC - from the CD I was given personally by Bruce at Chickasha in 2010. I got him to sign my then new copy of the black book but did not think of asking him doing the same on the CD cover :-)

Copenhagen (and Denmark) came through the war relatively intact. Yes there where bombings,...

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Often when we least expect them. I often get a chuff from one car even after sitting for days and a free start 1 out of 16 times or so. The other 4 hardly ever. The engines don't always stop at the same place. Momentum, temperature and the phase of the moon have something to do with it.
Rich

I'd venture to say that Jack Johnson was twice the man that the newspaper writer was.

Dan, Oops!! I should have remembered the 9/26 post.