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Wow, thanks for all of that feedback.

The forum is always very helpful and I will need all the good advice.

Yes, the embossing T2856 can be found on the firewall. So it is clear that the Ford was assembled in Toronto. It would be interesting to know what the numbers mean.

Of course, it can be good over the years that the engine from another car...

Donnie,

Don't forget the top will not go up into proper position unless you are wearing your white shirt, straw boater, and bow tie. :roll: :roll:

I'd guess the intermittent plugs have a hidden crack or flaw in the insulator or the unglazed end of the insulator may be deeply permeated with carbon or rust. If narrowing the gap on an intermittent plug improved its test performance, that would seem to point to an insulation leak of some kind, such as a hairline crack, rust or carbon...

I like the photo of the brick garage too, with the nearly new '13 roadster with the turtle deck removed. It also has the Rands windshield with two equal halves, which are fairly uncommon.

I have a '13 that had 3-1 gears installed in it long before I bought it. What a job it was taking that rear end apart! I had to remove every stud from the axle housings just to be able to pull the rear housings apart. Needless to say, the car now has the correct stock gears, and I can easily pull the housings apart without any trouble.

Are there any markings other than the sizes and 2525 (not the Ford number)?

Good morning Professor ... Doing the easy things first, I would replace the magneto contact with a new one, and then if necessary proceed to recharge the magneto.

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Original 13 touring under the front seat. I can try to get you a shot of an original 12 touring but I am not close by where I have it stored.

I used small pop rivets with washers on the reverse side. Unlike screws and nuts, rivets will not vibrate loose. I sanded, primed and painted my channels so they would not rust. Jim Patrick

The rivets are copper. head dia.190.(hinge side) Setside(top) is .125, so the body diameter is much smaller. From your dimensions, I would think .090 I didnt find a carb body missing the rivets.
You could use a piece of soild copper wire of a close sise & head both sides, making your own copper rivet.

I have used brass brads to replicate these...

My Brother was working on a 1907 G Cadillac when he passed away. That car was extremely well designed for it's time, It having a brass radiator out front really stands out. The four cylinder with those copper water jackets and aluminum crankcase look great. It being a three speed should perform very well for the HP to weight ratio.

Thank you for all the kind words, Bob
keep an eye out soon
Bob's Original Model T Parts & Vintage Toys will be starting

Keep a loose adjustment on those Kevlar bands in the transmission so the drums will not overheat and crack

Definitely eliminates the U joint. I'd take the fan off and try it again. Also check the crankshaft pulley. Oil the front motor mount and check the rest for tightness.

I am also primarily interested in the Ford Black & Brass 1913/14 lamps
and their variations. Would be neat to know what each manufacturer supplied.

Victor and Corcoran merged in 1916 to form Corcoran.
Corcoran, John Brown and Indiana Lamp Company merged in 1930 and were bought
by Electric-Auto-Lite in 1934.....AutoLite!

The Indiana Lamp...

I use Vaseline mixed with 3 in One oil on the roller and inside the cup of my original style timer. Viscosity should be about like molasses or Karo syrup. It clings to the contact ring, lasts a lot longer than oil alone and is not electrically conductive. Be sure that whatever you use has no conductive ingredients such as lithium or graphite or if...

Here are four photos of just a few of the new parts that are available for the rebuild of your fan that will stop any leaks your fan might currently exhibit: 1. reservoir gasket, 2. the rear felt gasket, 3. the fan shaft and 4. replacement bushings. All available from the antique auto parts vendors. Pictures are from the “Lang’s Old Car Parts”...

Walt,
Sent you an email also!

in case you were wondering, this is how the rear spring clips were mounted on the front spring. all three pieces had stripped threads and the front spring pack had the wrong tie bolt so I assume this was an attempt to keep the spring pack from shifting back and forth.
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It may have been a good period fix attempt to lower the side to...

Believe your fender is a rear 26-27 touring/sedan fender, not made to fit to your pickup. The bed you have is 26-27, just need to find a pair of correct rear fenders, 26-27 roadster/coupe/pickup .

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BTW, Scroll down on that link to see the Loveseat car pic.
Keith

I wonder how many acres are either paved over or roofed over in the Houston area? Cities multiply and concentrate runoff, besides being very effective solar collectors. Many cities are also located along rivers, rivers having been used as highways in the past, and are still used today. In hilly or mountainous areas, villages, towns, cities, and...

Humblej's drawing is clearly correct but only half the story.
As George says, there is (was) then a cover which slid along to cover the screws.
But this is the gutter along the side, not the front and rear trim. In the UK, the nearest equivalent is still known as 'Hidem Banding'.

This is all good stuff I didn't know, but I have to say that the...

Glad you have it sorted Paul!
Nice pic for obvious reasons Scott. :)

There is one for sale on HCCA for 24,500. I have 1 that I use on the New London, New Brighton in Minnesota that I've owned for about 12 years. Parts are not plentiful. Message me if you want, Steve

Van, for now I can say that it comes up at a slight angle up (very slight), and a slight angle out (again, very slight). The mounting tab generally must be drilled out a little to fit over the firewall bracket bolt. Even though it is angled out everything safely and easily clears the inside of the hood when closed.

The up bend is my decision to...

Dennis, we're headed for our cabin in the Black Hills this afternoon. Custer is a great place. You can make floorboards from a 2 ft by 4 ft 5/8 plywood chunk. I just made some to put a 26 engine in my 23 last week. Bevel the edges at 30 degrees where the 2 pieces meet and they stay down better and are still easy to remove to show folks the under...

Just a suggestion: Find the writings of Phil Irving and the development of the cylinder head for flat heads (motorcycle) or information on the Ricardo type cylinder head.

Chrysler is closer than any I can find. I believe it would have had a plated radiator shell, winged cap and cowl lights though. It probably would have had a bumper. So many mid-twenties cars had cowl lights. The bullet headlights were few. That is a long hood. I'm guessing a lesser known make that doesn't pop up in photos as much.
A great puzzle....

There are so many versions of speedsters to like. 50 years ago I was struck by the beauty and exciting look of the Mercer Raceabouts. When I realized they sold for as much as $30,000 :lol: I realized I would never have one. A new Corvette was $3,000 at the time. A T speedster on the cover of Hemming's put the idea in my head to build one that...

News article regarding the dividend reported in ledger pages above:

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Original FMC investors were already having a good year. FMC had paid a 100% dividend earlier that year. Not only did the company pay investors 100% of stock issue value, the investors had only paid in about $28,000 of the $100,000...

Pages from sold brochure on eBay and theirs

Canadian right hand driven cars and chassis.

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How about a new early 1915 chassis?

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Maybe a right hand driven chassis from 1913 or 1914? (Canadian build.)

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And this is a 1912 to 1913 chassis how they were often delivered to the body supplier!

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That top is my father's handiwork from 1950 or 1951 when he was 18 or 19 years old but the material is incorrect as stated above.

He's currently 90 years old and we are in the process of re-doing it with the correct material.

Wayne, lots to think about. I enjoy this hobby for the history of the time almost as much as the cars themselves (almost). Henry Ford is intriguing in so many ways, and there is so much written about him and FMC, yet much to learn yet in my opinion.
As always, thank you for your informed insights and thoughts. Hope all is well, and thank you for...

Thanks, Gene. Yes, now that you mention it, we did have to lower the top a bit to get it in the trailer. Erik's touring has a top with a considerably lower profile so it's not an issue for him. I do have room for another car or project but the '23 Touring will keep me plenty busy both driving it and keeping it on the road. It satisfies that urge...

Then there’s this one which I would love to find out! Owner from long ago? 496B4112-C918-4C43-A8BA-AFDC0160EEE7.jpeg

Thanks to Darel and his buddies we're all here havin a good time, livin the life of Riley. They paved the way. And today's generation is sittin here fat and sassy just waitin for somethin else that they can complain about.

Ed aka #4

Thanks John. Since I've never purposely ignored the setting, I have no idea what being off will do, (I assume it can't be good however). It would be like saying I'm gonna set my connecting rod clearances at .020 , just to see what happens. :lol:

I sent you a PM.

Thanks for sharing your experience using the ECCT. The HCCT is a wonderful example of early automotive technology but really no surprise adjusting coils for equal and consistent firing Time has distinct advantages over adjusting coils for equal coil current; after all, current is Not time and engine performance depends upon ignition Timing not...

I don't use stop nuts (I call them self-locking nuts) on my T, but I do use them extensively on my hot rod. In aircraft applications they should be a one-use item, so over time they are more expensive then reusable castle nuts.
The one exception to the no self-locking nuts in my T is one pivot bolt in the top supports. A lockwasher probably...

The 60 Case was apparently a real sweetheart. Someone's Elgin-Watch 60 comes to mind.
I've run an 80 and it was an absolute dream to run around with.

Another set of pictures

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That makes sense Jim.
Allan from down under.

I plan on putting it up for sale. I would rather have it picked up than ship. Is any one interested?

When I used to make signs I would go to USPTO to see what brands needed to be licensed. Some of the best ones were in the public domain and free to use.

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One more wonderful look at the Model B.
There are times I don't know how I could enjoy the hobby any more but you continue to show me.
Thanks for taking us along.
Rich

Thanks guys - the channels have been added to the video section.
Good finds!
cheers
Adrian

I know a Rolland Smith but he lived in California and has passed away a while back. Please send me the info you have for the one in Texas like email address or phone number and I will try to confirm if they're the same. Rolland Smith was a great guy and a good friend.

I have four spring wheels I cannot fine rims for
same set that Kevin posted bottom set

Ben...... Looking forward to next month's 100th Birthday Anniversary Run. !!!! Your 1922 touring has a lot of documented local history. Enjoy. !!!!....

Will keep everyone posted, probably not gonna be any time soon though , up to my elbows in alligators at the moment lol !!! Thanks for the help guys !!

There are 5 items on my car (not counting the top, upholstery or glass and wiring) that are not Ford manufacture: New Day Timer, outside oil line, rear seat panel, mag post and generator cutout (it’s a diode in a period looking case)

I would take a set

Not sure what was being fixed , but he was into it on a couple of occasions. Easier for him to get under there at age 4 1/2 than Grandpa at 79!

That's what I did. It was very helpful. I have slowed down some recently so I have to start up again. Members here always love pictures and updates on what you are working on. Try looking up Getting Rattles back on the Road and you can see what I've done. Good luck with your build. Don't get discouraged. If I can do it anyone can.

Beautiful! I see lots of potential there!

You might considered staying with the 4:1 gearing, assuming everything from the road to the steering wheel is tight and in good adjustment, and adding a 17 steering wheel and adjusting caster/camber to the best advantage and setting toe-in to slightly favor understeer. Adjusting front/rear tire pressures might also be of benefit. Anything you can...

I depise debt, and avoid it like the plague it is.

Forged drag links began in July 1916. Existing stock of old drag links from other suppliers were used concurrently until May 1917 upon which FORD forged drag links were used exclusively.

Replacing the notch replaces half the wear. To complete the job the corresponding working surfaces on the pedal need building back to spec. The pedal needs to come off the shaft, the wear surfaces built up and then the faces worked back into close contact. This refinishing is key to the job. It requires repeated filing, grinding, bluing, refitting...

Rob, this is fascinating! Great to see you bring another alpha car to the touring circuit.

Andy

I copied a little wire buckle from an old one on Kim Dobbins car. It's only about I square, and hangs from a engine splash pan bolt. From that I have a short leather strap. It's been on my cars for many years.

More likely nickel plated on teens components.

Allan from down under.

The cases are both magnetic. Alan's remark (Thank You) made be polish the AutoLock - definitely Nickle finish. Its also thicker steel and heavier than the Black ones. The Defender is chrome, color of finish and started to peal in one spot

Thanks for all the great info
I'll see what I can find

Church pews would look the part and they are built solid. They always come up for sale at local antique auctions, antique stores/ malls, etc. Not hard to find and usually cheap when you find them.

I obtained a NOS Mosler porcelain in a pile of parts. It's made in France.

The fellow in the second picture with the shotgun was nicknamed “stubby” shortly after the photo was taken…..

An original I have in my store is 1& 1/4+ wide, 5/8 thick and 7 & 11/16 long. The length is regulated by the width if the running board, and the thickness by the depth of the running board sides.

Allan from down under.

The smell of this thread is very, very enticing indeed!
I'm jiggling, waiting for your update. :)

With your good original as a pattern to follow, it shouldn't be very difficult to modify a later one to be so close in fit and appearance that almost nobody could tell them apart once rivetted onto the pan.
CHECK ALL DIMENSIONS! Up/down and side/side dimensions could be slightly different. Check from a fixed point on the surface of the pan where...

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Oil City PA was the founding area of Drakes oil well. There is a lot of information about it in the history books (I guess now internet) about his wells. The city has a museum and a mock up of his first well.

We make them. Give Dave a call at Chaffin's Garage (951) 735-4791

That car was Jerry Sherman’s. It set the record at Long Beach for the fastest flathead ever to run the hill. It now belongs to his son. I have driven it, whatever was done with the carbs is working well.

Thanks Norm….. Great idea about checking the magnets

The first picture shows a set of spare tire cradles. I had a nearly identical set on the back of my 1926 Hudson Coupé. Your set will mount two spares, very fashionable in the early to mid '20s.

Paul

You need to pull the starter bendix, not necessarily the starter motor. Its likely the issue & will be obvious. Lost bolt, broken spring or counterweight. Whall the bendix is out, do a quick test on the starter.
Hit the starter switch & try to stop the spinning with a leather gloved hand. You should not be able to easily stop the motor from...

It is very neat, John. Thank you for posting.

As far as quality is concerned if it’s to specification and made with quality materials that’s fine.
The other side is they could be made in the USA and we’re becoming more dependent on a country who knows what their doing to eventually take over the suits who make the decisions about where we’re going.

...I would recommend that you download the safety inspection sheet(s) from this site and be sure that your car is up to to safety standards before you drive it much.
Excellent idea. Both national clubs have them.

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There were 2 styles of choke arms used on the S, one resembling the G arm but without the reinforcement rib cast into the bottom. That rib could have been present on some because they changed stuff all the time but you can see if somebody shortened a G shaft if the staple holes are not centered.
On some the boss for the mixing chamber cover screw...

Some of those have a restricted fuel inlet while others are straight through to the seat opening.

In 2010 I bought one of those 4th main ball bearings and when I received it and discovered that I was required to cut off 3/8” of the drive shaft tube ball, I returned it, deciding to stay with the time tested babbited bearing.

I removed the drive plate and sent the babbited 4th bearing along with the drive plate to George King III in...

Here is the detail instructions:

The tool has two ends, the taking off tire end has a ‘swivel hook’ that levers against the rim for pulling off the tire.

I suggest it may not be a hub puller per se... quite possibly it's for a pulley, gear wheel, flywheel or something similar.

I prefer hydraulic pressure for assisting rather than a BFH ! I use a chain & bottle neck jack for most help. I had the local T guy (RIP) straighten a crankcase years ago - he used a BFH and broke the snout off the not my c.c. - we didn't speak for quite some time - that's why I built mine.

I will agree as time went onward into the Model T production.
Changes were made to make the part less expensive to produce.
This made the cost of building the car less expensive and that could be pasted onto the consumer to purchase the Model T at a lower price.
I would think the earlier handles that were cast took longer to produce and more...