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I know the high radiator and shell first appeared in late 1923. What year or years used the narrow (thin) radiator apron below the high shell? I have a high shell that doesn't have tapered or flaired sides like the 26-27 shells have and it has the narrow apron rivited to the shell mounting flanges. Just wondering what year and car or truck or both?

Saturday July 16, 2022 from 7:00Am until it’s over. One of the oldest and best swap meets in the west. Tons of Model T, Model A, and pre-war Ford stuff. Open to all makes and models, automotive and hobby related items only. Long Beach City College Veterans Stadium, 5000 Lew Davis St. Long Beach, CA. $5 Admission, Free Parking. Spaces are 20ft wide...

Hello Group. Can someone please tell me if there is a difference between the steering shafts on a 1926/27 and previous years? I have a pre-1926 column assy. (round flange) and want to know if I purchase the correct version (square flange) and correct mounting bracket to frame, will the steering shaft work, or there a different one needed for the...

I am going to buy a new set of plugs for my 21 that has a surging problem. I,m not sure if the plugs are the problem but where they look old and rusty I plan to replace. Lang’s champion 25 at$14.50 and motorcraft at $4.50
Should I go with champion and is it worth the extra money?

Found a pair of these in some stuff I have had for years. Anyone know the story on them? Yes, I know they are rear end thrust bearings, but who made them? Fit a T rear end. Not sure about thickness yet. Thanks Dan
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I was looking for a few early Ford ads and articles in Newspapers.com, and came across this. A Ford Model A, with options, for sale in Detroit, January 15, 1905:

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The owner offers to take a trial spin (who would have thought going for a spin was already part of the automobile lexicon?). Additionally,...

I just almost finished restoring my 3rd TT. I bought the chassis on a Bill of Sale and am now preparing to get a Title. The engine serial number is 10,955,119 and the old MTFCA encyclopedia states its a December 1924 engine from Highland Park. I understand that makes it a 1925 model. It has the ‘New and Improved’ engine/tranny style so I’m...

Where does the headlight wire from the back of the headlight bucket enter the car on a 1926-27 Model T since there is no hole in the hood shelf for this year?

Thanks Joe

Bill Devine and his wife were here yesterday looking around and he spotted these
door check straps with Firestone Logo, how cool is that, has anyone ever seen or known these were made? Bob

Who knows the thread size and thread count per inch for the oil drain plug in the crankcase and rear end? I need to buy a tap to chase the threads in a crankcase and am having trouble measuring the threads. Thanks.

Hello Everyone,
I am in the process of restoring my 1915 Model T Ford Touring car to original condition. It is my understanding that the correct ignition coils for this car are “brass top coils.”
Is this correct? And if so, does this mean that the metal plate on the top of the coil is made of brass? And if so, is that brass plate painted black or...

I've searched the best I could, but couldn't find anything.

I'd like to add an external trunk - wicker/fabric/leather to my 1919 Touring. I'm sure I've seen some with them with a mounting bracket to the frame. Does anyone have photos of this? Any idea what I start looking for in terms of bracketry or even trunks? I see some suited to As but...

Hello.

I am working on an emergency gas-tank cap. In case that I am low on gas I want to use an air-pump to pressurize the tank a little bit.

Of course, I don't want to modify the original brass cap, and even a used one is too expensive because of shipping cost, so I got the idea to 3D print one, including the thread, in Nylon, with a little...

Do any of you guy's have any spots that you are not going to be using?
Rich 561 262 o 3 9 3 call any time.

Contemplating the relative power of a Model T.

The legendary 20 mule teams pulled ten ton loads of borax c. 1886-89. Could a single Model T have done that job ?

Comparatively, I've got a toy John Deere 3005. Its 3cyl. Yanmar diesel is rated at 27 hp. The ZTR lawn mower is rated at 22 hp. I have a feeling Lizzie more than equals their muscle but...

Ok, got a question on this drawing....you'll note that the radius 16 7/64 has no dimension from the datum plain to the distance from the center-line...also there is no dimension for the start point of 5 51/64 Radius, now if you continue that line it does intersect with the dimension line for the 11 63/64 R line. But without a start point, you're...

As I’ve mentioned elsewhere, my 39 y/o son who lost interest at 16 has now awakened to the fun of a T when I took my grandson of 13 out and taught him how to drive the Hack. So the son decides that I’ll never hand crank the 15 in the stable again (true) and we might as well have an estate distribution now…with his promise to keep it always up to...

Looking at the mount on this horn. Why does it have a recessed cup? Is it supposed to sit on a spring?

Hello. I'm moving my Ruckstell shift lever to the left with the kit available from the major vendors. Question. Where do the two collars with set screws go? Thanks, bobt

Were the sidelamp brackets used in 1910 brass plated or painted black? Here's what I found when I bead blasted paint off the brackets on my 1910. Brass plating over steel. Im wondering if I should shine them up or repaint them. Don't know if these are original. I suspect not. For sure the black paint was applied when the car was restored from...

Zenith U-5 missing parts, begins its journey from the scrap pile to the race car...

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Digging through my shed looking for a 26-7 brake pedal I ran across this, looks like steering to me might be transmission, any help appreciated, Bob

Mike Bender rebuilt the engine and rear axle of our 15 runabout when I restored it three years ago. I am currently restoring an 11 touring, but this time I am also doing the engine and axle rebuilding. The block required some brazed repairs, which properly done, result in all the babbitt being melted. So yesterday I spent a long but productive day...

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The Yankee Ingenui'T's located in Townsend, Massachusetts will be celebrating their 40th Birthday with a parade, car show, and birthday cake on June 25, 2022 in Townsend, MA. All are invited to attend and participate, we hope you will join us.

For more information please email us at townsendmodelts@gmail.com (don't forget to check your spam...

Any idea what this tool is ? It has a cutting tool attached, something like a lathe cutting bit. May not be T era.

Hello All,

Have any of you installed the truss accessory for the rear axel that John Stoltz at the Model T Ranch sells?? If so will this fit directly onto a stock 1909 6 rivet rear end??? If not then does anyone sell one that fits directly on a 6 rivet rear end?? Attached is the pic from John's website. Any help appreciated. Thanks, Andrew

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On June 21, 1907, Ford Motor Company entered three cars in a 24 hour race at the Michigan State Fairgrounds. A total of ten cars entered, with the race beginning at 10:00 pm on the longest day of the year (June 21). At this time, Ford Motor Company was the largest automaker in the world, and produced more 4 cylinder, and 6 cylinder cars than any...

I have a '17 touring and often on tour end up offering my back seat to other Model T'ers for one reason or another. Has anyone ever built a removable rear luggage platform or luggage box for a touring of '16-'23 vintage? If so, any info and photos would be appreciated. I'd like to be able to strap some lawn chairs, etc. to it but then take it off...

Does anyone here know if Wagon Works still exist and do they sell Depot Hack plans?
I believe the company was once called Hudson Wagon Works but changed owners and shortened it to Wagon Works.
I have a good friend who wants to build a depot hack and was looking at mine for ideas.
A set of plans would help him considerably.
I checked through some...

How bad is this?
Wood is cracked and deteriorated. Car runs good for 5 seconds then skips and does not recover.
Asking for a friend.....

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The question RUNNING W/O AMMETER? got me thinking.

I realize that the forum is comprised of old and new owners of a Model T Ford. And the purpose of the forum is to share information and experiences. To help answer questions that are the results of observations and operating problems.

The Model T as designed is a basic vehicle. Originally it...

We're getting a whine out of the transmission when depressing the low speed pedal. High speed and reverse do not produce this noise.

Any ideas on what the source of this may be and necessary fix?

Can you repair a bent radius rod by cold bending or should I heat it!

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Hi Everybody!! I need to clean the small plastic windows in my touring car top. Is there a product that works or a technique you've used that works well? Thank you.

The 1921 Roadster Pick-up I have is, as I'm told, build of two cars back in 1963.
The running chassis have given the legal idendity so it is titled as a 1921 Model T, but I recall the original owner/builder that it was a 1919. I think it was because it may be the front half of a 1919 touring that make the body. The bed is made new back in 1963....

Started yesterday Saturday in Rhode Island... Check website for route... www.greatrace.com

I have seen the idea of heat treating tools and parts on the forum, but for small hardware I am trying cold bluing. I scuff each piece then dip them for about thirty seconds and they come out beautifully, but soon after they get coated in rust. Any chemist suggestions on how to combat this? Maybe gun oil?

Our English 1921 tourer was purchased rebuilt, but the assembly of beautifully refurbished bits was 'iffy'. This resulted in many breakdowns and a loss of confidence to do any long runs. The worst problem was starting from cold. Refurbished coils solved this and better settings by me!

NOW FOR THE GOOD NEWS.

Millie has been to two local car...

I have looked at the search function and didn't find exactly what I am looking for so I thought I would ask here.

I have had my engine bored to 20 thousands over and I have purchased new aluminum pistons and rings also 20 thousands over.

I have a piston clearance of 2-1/2 to 3 thousands when inserted in the cylinder.

I now need to check ring...

Seems like a about a month ago, someone posted about the increasing price of Model T's on the current market and quoted some high prices. I replied on the post, saying that i had seen some reasonable priced cars in reasonable condition for sale on Facebook Marketplace, here in Texas. Last night, I made a list of a lot of those, currently...

Doing some valve work on my 26 and found these spacers between the top of the spring and the block. I do not believe these are factory and curious on their intended purpose. Thanks!

Along with everything else, (clearly I should have picked a T in better shape) I think the generator is bad and so is the magneto. The other day I turned the lights on and the Amps Gauge dropped as it should, but no amount of revving brought it back to ‘0’. I also tried running the engine on magneto and it quickly died. I thought for sure it ran...

Would it be possible to run a car without an ammeter?
How would you configure the wiring if possible?

The timer discussion reminded me of this, so I thought I'd mention it in case anybody is unaware of it. It hadn't occurred to me until John Regan warned me about it.

High voltage can jump across a small gap anywhere, not just in a spark plug. Keep those plug wires away from low voltage wires, especially the one from the magneto. I believe ¼ is...

Getting along on some of my projects and wanting to start on the part I have been avoiding, the interior. I am trying to figure out what material to use to make the inside panels. It appears to be a non-corrugated card board painted black on the open cars and cloth covered on the closed cars. I have been nosing around trying to find something...

Got my E-mail this morning that I got accepted to the OCF. So looking forward to attending! I don't get to go often, only one before, in 2018. Long trek from Colorado.

Hope to meet some of you guys that can attend more often. Look for a '22 Center Door with Colorado Plates. See you there!

Rich

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So I have two spare tire carriers one seems to fit my 21 model T wheel the other is a bit larger. Any Idea what car? Seems to be made a bit different as well (extra bracing in the center).

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Hello y'all, I have a simple but difficult question. I recently got my hands on a semi rolling chassis with the plan to do a full build series on youtube and of course I'll post updates here to get y'alls tips and tricks. But I have come to a dilema, what do I build it to? Do I go low buck period lowerd speedster and have fun on the streets or do...

My 22 starter car did not have a horn when it came but I do have a hand operated klaxon and a magneto horn on hand (a little worse for wear and with a few dents that I plan to smooth out). Some checking showed my car was made January 11, 1922 and the battery horn came out after that, so it would have had a magneto horn. All to the good.

My mag...

I can’t remember where the spark plug wire on 27 coil box go. I have the timer wires on the top and spark wires on the bottom row

What is the correct color for the 2 ton Weaver?

Registration has begun, the MTFCA Board of Directors met today and folks continue to arrive to kick off the 2022 MTFCA National Tour.

I enjoy pouring through these forums and reading interesting stories of peoples days gone by. I would like to hear about peoples absolute favorite memories involving model T's, or just memories they are fond of in general. Be it what they remember from childhood, or from model t tours, working on the model t, or hanging out with friends. It...

Another T photo on Shorpy

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The 81 Tire Co. was located in Birmingham, Alabama. The shop's service fleet consisted of eight T roadster pickups and one TT. Note the 81 painted on each trucks door and windshield.

I intend to install a Stewart 100 in my runabout. The firewall drawing, made after Ford gave up speedometers, of course doesn't show it. But I gather the usual location is to the right of the coil box, slightly below and to the right of the light switch. What I'm wondering about is the cable. I'm guessing it requires cutting a notch in the upper...

Chill Well portable, rechargeable, cordless room AIR CONDITIONER in their Model T sedan ? They’re only $85 and this summer is shaping up to be HOT and dry... Just looking for recommendations. Thank you 😁🇺🇦

I lost the small nut that holds the plug wire on the plug.. I tried a 6/32 nut but was the wrong thread. Is there a nut that can be gotten without buying a plug?

I hope I am the only one, but I have had now in the past 2 months delivered but not received items to people requesting parts. Three total now, either porch thieves and post office workers with attitude delivering an empty box. I don’t have that problem here so much in the south, it’s a southern thing. So for now on, the receiver must pay all...

Happy Father’s Day to all of you dads out there! I hope your day was as good as mine. All three of my kids came and helped me assemble the chassis for my 14 roadster. It was truly a wonderful day!

Has anyone seen these accessory brackets that attach to windshield posts that allow a One Man Top to be used instead of the Two Man Top?
They have a number stamped on back where they attach to post.
Never seen them before. Hope someone may have info on them.
Thanks Rick.

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Making progress on my new 1922. Nothing major, but lots of little things sorted out. I had it running for about an hour today and practiced driving. I am getting the hang of it and feeling more confident. But, twice today after maki g sharp right turns, the car started a serious wobble that only went away when I stopped. When I started back up, it...

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I started the process of getting my T pickup legal back in 2020. The virus came along,and I just put that on the back burner.
Well today,I left dmv with a tag! and the title will be in the mail in a few weeks.

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A member mentioned that cutouts/voltage regulator were hard to find. Yet those with Ford 2N/9N tractors can get such cut outs.

The diagrams for a simple charging system appear similar.

So what memo did I miss?

I want to replace the driver’s side wiring harness on my 22. The old one is showing some wear and tear. I am going to install a 25 amp fuse on the main power lead, which involves cutting the new harness.

In my spares I have a brand new harness that has the little ford metal tags on it. I don't see these for sale in the normal dealers. This car...

I finished swapping the engine/trans over on two of my T's and now i plan to swap the rear ends.
Considering both ball joints (transmission connect) have been apart and i haven't wired the bolts up yet would you undo them at the ball joint again or tackle the other end of the tube at the diff head?

Also one is a small drum (23) and the other a...

Here are a few crude schematics showing the 3 brush generator and some common hookups. Note that these schematics avoid showing the starting system which, in practice, you will likely find between the battery and the ammeter.

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Does anyone have photos of an accessory rear view mirror for the 26-27 open cars and pickups?

I would like to replace a Gross Jet with a Viton tip valve in a rebuilt carb I have. I have the new jet, but I can't figure out how to remove the Gross Jet. I can't get a small wrench on it. Is there a secret to removing these?

Pre 1975 Volvo's for the most part all had Gyptal coating applied at the factory on the inside of the engines and transmissions. Now you know why they have broken world records on the most miles. Applied correctly it will not insulate but cause a non-stick surface to prevent crud build up.

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People have ask me for years how my...

Hi from abroad,
Two days ago when accelerating from an intersection the clutch pedal
suddenly felt less firm and I had to push it closer to the floor to engage
low gear. Despite heavy rain I decided to take a look and removed the
tranny cover, but I couldn't detect anything unusual. I put it back
together and adjusted the band a little from...

Hello everyone,
I just had a quick question before I get to taking things apart to try to align my 27 tudor. I just had to change two new front tires. After less than 1500 miles I had worn them down to the belts. So I decided that I had better get to doing an alignment. Everything else in the steering is pretty tight. The service manual says to...

The famous SCVMTFC Endurance Run and Lowland Tour is back again this year on Saturday and Sunday June 11/12. This years event will start and finish in the historic town of Niles (Near Fremont/Milpitas).

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Endurance Run Entry Form:
Lowland Tour Entry Form:

Schedule of Events
Saturday, June 11, 2022
Morning
10:00–2:00...

I Have some thoughts about running a 10 tooth pinion. If you look at most gear ratios they are almost always even odd or some combination that prevents regular repetition of the teeth. So if running a 10/40 ratio there is a regular repetition of the teeth every 4 revolutions of the pinion. Is it better to run a 39 tooth ring gear than a 40 tooth...

Do any of you know the results after the first day of the Montana 500?

Craters of the Moon National Monument, Idaho. Picturesque camp made by a lone geologist on the cinders of Inferno. O.E. Meinzer visited the Monument in June 1921 and made preliminary plans for a geological survey of the area. Shows encampment with Model-T pickup truck and small tent with rope attached to auto radiator to help support it....

My 26 T magneto quit suddenly. The mag output has been low (15 volts) for some time. I have the shim devise to take up the main bearing slack/mag gap but haven't had the energy to install it. The switch and wiring are good. I removed the post and cleaned/checked it. Still not working. I installed a repro post and have mag again. It appears that...

“KANGAROOS ONLY” being painted on a water can by a member of the Scottish Womens Hospital. Serbian front. c. 1914 – 18

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Hello,

Our 1909 Model T roadster has a stock wood firewall. I want to take the firewall off. What is the easiest way to get it off in regards of the steering column?? Is it possible to unbolt the steering box and pull the column and steering box through the circle hole in the firewall the steering column goes through?? Or do I need to take the...