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Thank you so much for the education :D

Here again, how are we supposed to supply and answer, when the year of the car is not given? Those items were changed over the years considerably. We all should agree that the engine side of the engine pans use the engine bolts. In many cases the engine pans have gotten the holes enlarged due to being replaced several times, and require a flat...

Thanks Steve, that's what I thought, but nice to hear confirmation. Looks like a good setup.

Richard
A similar situation occurred when Ford introduced the spare tire carrier for the 1926 Roadster pickup spare tire carrier.
Attached is a photo of this part.
The problem was how to support the spare tire carrier base to the embossed ridges on the uneven running board surface.
A simple flat shim was developed and mounted between the carrier...

I have two sets of the covers, pictured above with the red trim. One set is used and doesn't have the hub caps. The other set is NOS and has the correct hub caps and has only been out of the original box for inspection and photos. If I don't use them, someday, you'll see them in the Classifieds 'for sale', but that is a ways down the road. Next...

It doesn't take much to allow the high tension to find a way to ground. On the primary side, you'd think 6 volts would be fairly easy to keep corraled, but then a Model T ignition primary might see up to 30 volts when running on the magneto. Old insulation can harbor internal defects that allow current leakage even if it looks good. Such defects...

Hello from Newport, NC. The only Model T that I know of in Newport, NC is at Bogue Sound Distillery. I am a Model A guy that is searching for a brass Model T. I would enjoy talking to you when you get in town.

Welcome and thanks for sharing your story. Glad to see that you are doing your best to influence your peers.

What is winter?
from John in SW Florida.

I think the Florida definition is when the temp is below 70F… :lol:

The dimensions on the paper are the correct FORD dimensions.

As suggested, you really should make a cardboard cutout to the FORD dimensions and fit into the door channel. Now, my guess is that the door channel is completely out of the door and this cannot actually happen. If that is the case, then you should wait until the car is painted, the...

Some chassis have the ID (VIN) number stamped on top of the channel iron on the passenger side (or driver’s side)...
Not on this one. Serial numbers were first stamped on frames December 10, 1925 (1926 model year). The Ford parts book shows this front spring clip up to 1921, no later.

Got it! Thanks MTFCA!

Yes, my 1922 T touring is coming up to its 100th birthday in May!

Regards,

Steve Boothroyd

The intent of the project was to see if there was a correlation between Production Number (Block Number) and the Body Number. The body number based on the literature is Briggs body.

Thank you for your share.

Yes, your style slingers will clear the pump, hoping the triple gear retaining plate does, what size mounting bolts are you using for the slingers? I've retapped an original #14-24 threaded gear for 1/4 -28 but not a new 1/4 -24 one. Thanks, Joe

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Scott, What is a floor switch ?
Sorry for the confusion Bruce, I meant starter switch on the floor.

As Ron Patterson corrected me: Of course, two revolution (or four buzzing coils). And 1/2 crankshaft turn between coils. I will also update my post. Thanks, this was a mistake by me. :)

As I understand the initial post, jiminbartow was asking for some sort of »possibly recommendable maintenance« without any need for getting things...

I got a call last night from my good friend, Larry Original Smith to tell me that I needed to look at Tom Rootlieb's post titled Mishap Monday and to pay special attention to the photos 25, 26, 27, and 28 showing a moderately bashed T Touring car.
He said that there was an early type concrete street name post in one of the photos clearly showing...

I press them off, then heat the new one with a torch and they drop back on.

The end float in the driveshaft is controlled by the bushing face on the bush at the bell. There are no shims anywhere in a standard fitting.

Rather than take a cut off the transmission to clean it up, I would use some fine abrasive paper to polish it. This will clean it up and leave a nice surface for a new babbit bearing. Gene French can supply...

Priceless Rat Rod Ready radiator. Put it on eBay starting bid $200 + shipping as a Used re-core of an Original Brass Model T Radiator. If it doesn't sell it cost you nothing

Thanks Mr. Burns! I'll forward them over right now. Glad we could reconnect😁

Here's an early 1916 Ford with 1915 plates. It looks like the flaps were gone by late calendar 1915.

Looks like it's for Free Rotor valves, these used to be fairly common on industrial engines, takes two c- shaped keepers, and an inverted cup over the end of the valve only example I can think of is Fordson Major, but there's way more.. Dave in Bellingham, Wa

Thanks Ed. Maybe he’s not home yet.

Correct John, and here is comparisons to the earlier heat stove pipes.

The late pipe is recessed at the upper side to clear the new combo choke and carb adj. rod with the universal joint.

That new assembly was shown in the July 1925 Service Bulletin.

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Steve, my thoughts exactly.

John, thanks again for your advice.

Tyler

Thanks for the stories and pictures, I will cherish the sturdy little chair even more now that I know a little more.

Sorry due to death of my machinist no longer being produced by me. Check with Les, Dan

Thanks for all of the ideas.

I thought I do the math. I have accounts with all three.
Usually better to condense the heavy smaller items in one shipment and the large lighter in its own. I used the repecive shippers online shipment calculators. Extra charges for additional insurance over their respective defaults. I have shipped wire wheels...

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Here is an age old question. Why did people run with their tops down so much, even in cold weather?

I'm a top down snob :lol: I just think the experience is better with the wide open space. Better gas mileage too!

Unless it’s an OF for a Willys. It was a different size flange.

What does the back of the switch look like?
It could have been stamped incorrectly. Bet the same person was hired by the Government to print US currency

That is a very interesting concept on the tires. As I live in the country I have access to manure and I have some vintage ground grip tires to experiment on!
Nothing that I will tour with but interesting to have some fun with.

My engine casting date is September 18th, 1916 and assembly date was September 23rd, 1916. They didn't waste much time.

Thank you Frank and Bill. Greatly appreciated!

Great to hear at least some good news from down there. Thanks for posting. I fear storm season is just getting started.

This is a copy of what Kim Dobbins wrote in 2008.

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Here is some of the info that I have on some of the early T's.
#2 was restored by Don Hess, then sold to a dealer in PA, then sold someone in England.
#18 is a...

Here is a scanned copy( as requested by Steve) of the Car with much clearer details .
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Hi Pep C,
The muffler I showed is NOT a Snyders muffler. It is a stainless steel one built by John Page and a friend back in 2013. I used it to show how mufflers SHOULD be made with a bump on the rim of the end caps where the seam fits nicely. I'm sorry for any confusion. It is not from one of the vendors. I wish he could have provided mufflers to...

That’s a good one! Might be!

If the flying J Ranch is full the Western holiday hotel in Three Rivers is just a quarter mile away.

I have no idea how such a printer works, what skills are needed to operate it, how long the process takes,nor how much materials cost. However, the same results can be achieved in an old tech way. Leave your old spindle bolts just threaded through the lower eye, leave the nuts on the perch mountings and leave an old shackle in each perch. This...

Fellows, vulcanising heat patches do not work at all well on butyl tubes. They are old technology for rubber tubes.

Allan from down under.

A 1922 touring would have had a removable wool mat for the rear floor from the factory.

The wool mat was supplied starting with the 1916 model year. Don't know if formal adoption occurred prior to the model year, at the beginning model year or sometime during the model year.

Examples of surviving wool mats occasionally show up. For example, the...

I went with FORDWOOD. The window wood kit was $326.70, which included shipping. It took about a month from the order date to shipping. They manufacture the parts in their family shop in Utah.
They kept me abreast of each step with emails of beginning manufacture and shipping and they marked each piece of wood with the part number because the part...

Thank you for the tip.
Bill

Thanks to all who replied. I'll go ahead and let it soak in an Acetone / ATF cocktail for maybe a couple of weeks. I've got plenty of other projects in the meantime.

You failed to mention if your tube has a rubber stem, or a metal one. They are called rim nuts. Since you have wire wheels, you can use the Model A tubes providing your wheels are Ford wheels. A&L parts specialties has those parts. I don't know if they sell the tubes with the proper valve stems, or if you have to put them in yourself.

John, you may be right about the stitching. But that is a beaded edge clincher tyre. They do not have wire in the beads because the tyre has to be stretched over the rim to fit it. The first T cars to have straight sided tyres, with wire in the beads, was the 21 wheeled 26-7 cars with split rims or wire wheels. The TT's had straight sided tyres on...

Myles, if you use a drift to drive the bearing out, the seal will come with it. There is no need to remove the seal first.

Hope this helps.

Allan from down under.

Good point David. In my experience only Hayes made wire wheels with metal felloes. They are the only ones I know of which have the tyre fitted on a separate rim that de-mounts in the same way as they do on wooden spoked wheels. Perhaps there is some confusion between rim and felloe.

Allan from down under.

I noticed that this thread:

has a photo which may explain the hole.
It appears that earlier rear panels had a tab rivetted to the sill at the hole.

There seems to be some file format change in the last while that appears to be 'hit and miss'.
I am still what is now called old school - using a PC....
How time change :-)

Back from Chickasha, thought I should answer Davids question. I shortened the crank myself, ground to A size. I do plan to use the B cam. I have 2 different blocks going together, 1 flathead, 1 for a overhead.

Chevrolet 1923-24 1 Ton.

Ed aka #4

Neither one of those leaks looks so bad that you couldn't use it as-is, just to see how well it will cool. I'd do that first, then fix the leaks. Waddya' got to lose?

There were at least 3 different sill plates used during 26-27 coupe production.

Great swap meet. Should be on everyone's to do list !

I agree with the OP. Unfortunately Henry was not the type to relinquish authority. Edsel was a genius, but I doubt that he could possibly worked well in any capacity with his father as his boss. Ford would have been well ahead of where it was in 1927 if Edsel had his way. Ford didn't really catch up with GM and Chrysler until about 1939.

Art, there will be an article about my p/u in the upcoming Vintage Ford that you may like.

First and foremost, I love the display of Old Glory. However even if you might get it moving on one hand, STOPPING it is a whole other issue. Does the word crunch mean anything!! :-)

The guy has a great channel for us every day non concours guys. Even the experts might learn something.

Not a bad idea to put a zinc in.

Thanks guys ,,got him
Wilf

The leak at the outlet joint may be due to vibration or forces from removing an old, stuck hose. The leak in the core proper is likely to be from a micro-crack or a pinhole in the tube from internal corrosion. Be aware that any water spilled onto a radiator core may remain between the fins for quite a long time. Be certain that there is an actual...

...Glue wasnt necessary. Bonding the linings is a modern thing.

Modern, yes, but also necessary for this application — there was a lot of spring-back from the lining and there is no way the rivets could have held it snug to the band. The brake drum is only 5 diameter and the lining was not happy with that much curvature.

I ran a Kingston L4 on a 1917 runabout for years. I used to commute in that car about 30 miles each way. I had taken off a Holley straight-through car, which gave terrible mileage and had a disappointing stumble when starting off that defied remedy. The Holley gave terrible mileage on the commute, always less than 10 mpg.

But I had this dandy...

This item is a favourite ! I wonder if it really worked? What is it - why it is a warning notice to the policeman not to arrest the motorist for speeding!

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One advantage that the radiator has going for it is the climate that it will be used in: Its not in the South ;)

In the fifth picture at the gas station, there is a woman sitting in the front seat on the side where the gas tank filler is usually located. I wonder if they had a filler neck on the tank or that picture was just posed, and they were actually not filling the tank?

Thank you for the pictures!

Those early rear ends were notorious for sagging, cracking, and failing in a variety of ways. Ford began with a design for the model T that was to have been cheaper to build, but turned out to be very unsatisfactory. Various ways of strengthening the center housing, reinforcing the joint between the halves, improving the bearings in both the...

As the song says, two out of three ain't bad . Now for number 4.

Allan from down under.

Those are classic symptoms Jim. The rust dust comes first, as the spokes 'work' in the felloe. The clicking comes a little later when they have become looser. It is best heard when pushing the car around without the motor running. Time then for a rebuild.

Allan from down under.

Considering how much oil most T’s leak by the ball cap I wouldn’t think it is a big deal. I haven’t greased that bushing in 45 years.

I'm with you. But your suppose to put grease in the Ball Cap to lube the u-joint and oil to lube the drive shaft bushing. I think that theory was that the oil would dilute the grease seeping into the busing...

Yes both the new Spooky Nook motel and the Hamilton Marriott are open and accepting reservations. But both those motel rates go up nearly double on April 1.

Zep makes a calcium, rust & lime remover it's like CLR but less cost wise. Find it at Home Depot & Lowe's. It will clean blocks, heads & radiators. I leave it in radiators over night. Then flush well with clean water. Blocks & heads I leave for days then flush with the pressure washer. This is assuming they are apart. I would not expose a head or...

Yes, I have grouped things together under main areas of the car, and alphabetical under that: eg: 'Headlights', 'Timer', 'Body' and so forth. Please let me know if you have any ideas to improve things.

Now crept over 710 entries. Some good stuff in the old forum, just takes a little longer to track it down

Are these 1927 Touring rear fenders

Its hard for my eyes, to tell whether the black ones at the top, are or aren't, because of the side view. A clear end view would definitely confirm. The ones at the bottom (fore ground) definitely are pre-26

The half-way out the slant angle is a must for the reverse pedal.

You will not back up if you can push the reverse pedal to the floor or withing 1 inch eithter.

I think it is 1/8 ? That is what I have written on my speck sheet that I will take in with me.

Robert, if you are a MTFCA member you will be able to read it when I submit it to the Vintage Ford editor if she agrees to publish it .
I'm going to wait a few days first in case someone comes forward who has the remains of one or can provide anything more to add to their history.

I see you are from Florida, if and when you are at any of the...

Hi Tony it was a pleasure meeting you what a wonderful day, so much to see and Johney Cloud wonderful Guy! I recommend this to any Model T enthusiast please have the Preasdent of the San Diego
Club call me Thanks Rich 520-827-0295

Les, you did an impressive job on the engine in the photos and all of the others you have posted photos of.

This is the crankshaft, and it's a late-'20s DOHC Fronty crankshaft that is part of the Fronty engine that was one of two engines used in the racing car. It is extra heavy-duty and supposedly was made to stand up to the power of the...

Anyone know if he’s on the forum?