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Post by Rich Eagle » Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:02 pm

I am pleased to see the OT section added to the forum. Several members have great steam car photos and some even own a steam car. There were many running around in the Model T days. They are certainly pertainant to the history of the Model T.
I'll start with three large Whites. I somehow got to ride in each of these. The first two were restored by Richard Hemple from Emmett, ID. They were sold to 2 fellows in Boise and now are in Jay Leno's collection.
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1908 40 H.P. Model K
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If the K was less than 40 H.P. someone correct me.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:07 pm

Thanks Mark. That would make the Model K a 30 H.P. It sure seems as big as the model Ms.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:18 pm

Here are some details of the magnificent 30 HP White.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:31 am

Stanley made the coffin nose in 10 and 20 HP versions. Their mountain wagon was 30 HP and some of those boilers were used in cars I believe. Here are 3 of the 10 HP cars.
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A 1910 touring.
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We rode in this 1911 Model 62 Runabout one morning. Joy borrowed an antique dress to wear as all participants dressed in period costumes. The dress began disintegrating a few miles into the trip. She finished the ride in the drivers duster.
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I watched the speedometer approach 70 mph in this car. It is a 1914 606 Roadster. Pumps and plumbing are accessed under the seat.
Even these smaller Stanleys can outrun a model T while the steam holds out. Steering and stopping is not much better. Driving requires constantly looking for the next water stop. Water mileage is poorer than fuel mileage.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:26 am

I am relying on a 35 year old memory and some tour book info for these descriptions. Here are two 1913 model 65 10 HP Touring cars.
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The 20 HP were a popular cars. These are 1910 Model 70 cars except the one at lower left. It is a 1913 Model 76.
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I am riding in the back of the lower right car with my 16mm movie camera.
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Fantastic! Thanks for sharing these.
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Post by Walter Higgins » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:41 am

Rich Eagle wrote:
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Stanley made the coffin nose in 10 and 20 HP versions. Their mountain wagon was 30 HP and some of those boilers were used in cars I believe.
Models K, M, (I think some others) and the 80-series cars also used 30 HP engines, not just the boilers. A desirable upgrade today is to fit a 30 HP boiler into a 20 HP car to increase the reserve capacity.


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Post by Rich Bingham » Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:15 pm

I have always loved steam from afar. I think the first encounter I had was when Rich and I and some friends were able to see the Harrah Collection. That was back in 1964 if I remember correctly. We were able to see the restoration shops where craftsmen were performing restorations on a number of cars. I don't recall the make or model (I think it was a White) but a completed chassis was being test-driven in the shop area, and it was magical to see it glide silently along . . . about 30 years later, the owner of a 1910 White was kind enough to give me a "full guided tour" as we were "neighbors" at a car show in Utah. I once had the opportunity to crawl all over a Doble . . . nothing less than wonderful. Are all "steam guys" that kind and engaging ? Or have I just been lucky ?
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Post by John Warren » Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:57 pm

The won was willy white! :lol: I have read that the the Stanley went one hundred and ninety seven!!! miles an hour in 1907. As I recall they figured it would have easily made 200 mph had the car not became air born and took off like a flying pancake and put poor Fred in the hospital. Love the steam cars. Thanks
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Post by StanleyRegister » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:55 pm

Unfortunately the 197 was an exaggeration that Fred fell into in his later years. In the 1960s, F. E. Stanley's son Ray revisited his father's notes of the event, and considered the technical progress that had been made between the 1906 record of 127.66 mph, and the 1907 attempt. That scholarship suggested that the car was traveling about 150 mph at the time of the crash. Still an astonishing figure for something that was mostly wood and canvas.


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Post by Ken Findlay » Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:10 am

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Rich. Good post. Especially when I see one of my cars pictured on it. The 1911 green model 62 roadster belonged to Vern Wellburn at the time you had a ride in it. Vern was a long time member of our car club in Vancouver BC. I first saw Vern driving the Stanley in 1966 when we were on a 800 mile tour around the province. I was 14 then and Mom and Dad took the whole family on that tour in their 1927 Auburn. About 15 years ago Vern started teaching my son how to start, drive and maintain the Stanley. They went on a number of tours and Dan got to know the car well. Vern died about 7 years ago. The estate gave us first chance at the Stanley. Couldn't say no. Since then we've toured it about 2000 miles. All the history and owners are known from day one. We are the 8th owner! I could go on forever but...
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Post by Rich Eagle » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:26 am

Thanks Ken. I remember chatting with you about the car on an earlier post. I was glad to hear the car went to a good home. The ride I spoke of was when Vern's father was still with us. He was in the passenger seat coaching Vern on the driving. Since we were in the back seat it may have been a different car or with a seat added on the back.
In an interview with Fred Marriott he described surviving the indecent. (Perhaps in the 60s). He said one eye had come out of it's socket and a doctor who was first to reach the crash scene put it back in place. "That is my best eye now" he said.
I'm pretty sure it was a White Rich. That was my first encounter and I have marveled at that silent movement ever since. Speaking of Dobles I will offer this set of photos. In 1985 4 of the remaining 5 (reportedly) remaining, operational Dobles attended the Steam Car Tour in Idaho. I am not sure the years are correctly stated.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:13 am

Questioning my faulty memory I checked another photo book and found this. Does that seat pop up when needed? I believe it is the same car and this shows Vern driving and his Father in the back seat. This would have been in McCall Idaho in 1982. As we were on 4 or more steam tours and half a dozen 1&2 cylinder tours where steam cars participated the information here may have some faults.
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Post by StanleyRegister » Sun Mar 17, 2019 11:52 am

Thanks for all those great steam tour photos, Rich. I'm the roster keeper for Stanleys, found online at http://www.StanleyRegister.net . Several of these cars can be identified, although it's tough - many of them look very similar.

Starting at the top -
1. Red 1910 10hp - can't figure this one out. You can see a tantalizing plate in the upper photo that says "OWNED BY", but I can't make out the name. I'd like to nail this one down if possible.
2. Ken Findlay's #5814 - see this car's excellent website at https://dan-findlay.squarespace.com .
3. Pat Farrell's 1914 Model 606 #7480. A very fast car that he drives like crazy.
4. I think the green car is 1913 Model 65 #7204, owned by my friend Rob in Colorado. This car participated in a highly-publicized "steam vs. gas race" with a Stoddard-Dayton, from Chicago to New York, in 1951.
5. The blue car with red undercarriage is 1913 Model 77 (20hp) #6917.
6. Upper left - this is a "Model 85", a 30hp 7-passenger car designed in the late '80s by Don Bourdon and Brent Campbell. The factory never made a car like this - Don and Brent wanted a 30hp car with lots of power for passengers and long-distance touring, with the character of the open wooden body. They each built one, and have put over 40,000 miles on each one, reliability tours, Red Rocks, etc. The two cars look almost identical, but I think this is Brent's "Big Green," #5576.
7. Upper right - there's a flock of red Model 70s around, most constructed by Carl Amsley in PA and Loren Burch in California. I can't tell which one this is.
8. Middle - this is a 20hp Model 71, with the slinky 4-passenger body. Stanley didn't even call it a touring car, but a "four-passenger roadster." This one was probably owned by Mike Simpson at the time - I don't know its background or serial #.
9. Bottom left - this is 1913 Model 76 (20hp) #6447.
10. Bottom right - there are an awful lot of Stanleys that look like this. :-) It may be 1910 Model 70 #5600, owned at the time by Craig Craddock or Ken Foster.

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Post by Rich Eagle » Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:32 pm

Thanks for the corrections and additions. I hesitated to put names partly to avoid more errors. I will add:
1. Robert Edwards
3. Yes it was a crazy ride and nearly terrifying.
4. Rob Reilly I believe.
6. If that is the 30HP it was Ole Vikre and Brent Campbell. Brent let me drive it a couple miles hoping I would get into steam. That was exciting and terrifying also.
7. Allen Blazick I believe. Carl Amesly was on the 1982 HCCA tour in McCall, ID. He threatened me not to film his swagging of boiler tubes in the motel parking lot. He had run out of water and it was embarrassing to him.
8. Yes Mike Simpson. What a nice guy.
9. Harry Farrar from Wy.
10.Definitely Craig and Linda. Loren Burch had one there just like it.
The day I rode in the 40 HP White Loren passed us in his Stanley like we were standing still. Probably in excess of 60 mph. Ron gave the White some more throttle and we were gaining on Loren quickly. Rena put her hand on Ron's arm and asked "Your'e not going to race him?"
Ron said "No" and let back the throttle to a safer speed. I have no doubt the White would have reached 75 or 80 if needed. We did have to put the top down as it had torn a little on that run.
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The above is Con Fletcher's 1908 Model H 20 HP.
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Trailered is Davin Fledmans 1909 Model R 20 HP after scorching his boiler. The fishing gear is Allen Blazick's.
These photos were taken on the 1988 Steam Car Tour in Idaho. A friend, Joy and I hauled luggage as it was a progressive tour of Sun Valley, Stanley, Challis and Arco. Finally the drive back to Sun Valley. In exchange for carrying baggage we were treated to rides in steamers. One of us would drive the pickup of luggage and the other two got to sample a different steam car each day. They were as nice people as you would meet anywhere just like the folks who tour in Model Ts. We also took pictures and movies for them as they were constantly fiddling with valves, pumps and looking for water.
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Post by StanleyRegister » Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:49 pm

Very cool, thanks! I'll put these photos in a folder for that tour. Leno has that Model R now. Yeah, it would have been something to see that 40hp White stretch its legs. When a steamer is working well you get a drive like no other.

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Post by Rich Eagle » Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:08 pm

Thanks for the confirmation on the Model R. I had thought it was the same car when I read an article on it but as you say many look just alike. Also thanks for the link to your Register site. Many of us enjoy the steam cars.
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Post by Ken Findlay » Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:19 am

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The rear seat on the our Stanley was permanently attached to the fuel tank cover. The cover is hinged and you lift it to get access. Vern had removed that seat years ago. 2 main problems with it. You can't have the roof down if someone is sitting there. I think the main reason though is that the 10hp Stanley has a lot more poop when there's not a 3rd person on board. Since we've owned it, we've left the seat off and added an extra water tank ahead of the seat. That's increased our driving range to around 50 miles before we need water. On the flat it likes to cruise at 40 mph all day long.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:31 am

That is interesting Ken. I was worried about remembering the seat.
Since we mentioned Carl Amsley I should post this photo of the 1909 Model U 20 HP he drove on the 1982 tour. I wish I had a better camera in those days.
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I had no idea how involved he, the Bordon's and others were in the hobby at the time. What a treat to have been around them.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:06 am

Later Stanleys wore a condenser out front like the White steamers. These are both 1919 cars, Mr. Hix's 735 upper photo and Mr. Moore's 735B lower.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:04 am

One of the most magnificent Whites is this 1906 Model F 18 Hp Touring. There are so many features that are preserved and original.
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This 1908 is a delightfull Model L 20 HP.
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These next two are 1910 Model O-O 20 HP cars
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White had started building gasoline cars and trucks and the last Steam cars were built in 1911.
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Post by dlmyers » Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:08 am

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I have posted this 1908 photo before. My maternal grandfather is at the wheel of the car on the left.

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Is this an early Locomobile or something else?
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Post by Rich Eagle » Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:33 pm

It looks like a Locomobile. They bought the Stanley rights so it might be a Stanley. Also, Mobile and others were so very similar. 1901 or thereabouts.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:04 pm

The first Steam Cars like the Gas Cars look much like the horse drawn buggies of the day. A 1901 Moline and a 1901 White are shown here.
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These are 1901 Locomobiles here. They look rather dainty but can scoot right along while they have steam.
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Post by CudaMan » Sat Mar 23, 2019 4:06 pm

FYI, there is a White steam car engine currently for sale on the Steam Car Network site.

https://www.steamcarnetwork.com/for-sale
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Post by Rich Eagle » Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:52 pm

Thanks for the link to that site. There is a lot of fun to see there.
I'm still enjoying the steam literature you passed on to me Mark.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:41 am

The Stanley Mountain Wagons are huge and wonderful. These are a 1912 and a 1916 Model 826 Mountain Wagon.
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1910 Stanley at the 2017 OCF.

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Joe Fedullo's 1923 Stanley. It burns kerosene. I told Joe it was the first car I'd ever ridden in that smelled like a lamp.

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Another view of Joe's Stanley.

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Post by Rich Eagle » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:35 am

Thanks Steve. Those are great photos. Riding in a car that is on fire is always fun.
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Post by StanleyRegister » Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:25 pm

Joe's car is probably one of the best late condensing Stanleys out there. It was formerly owned by a meticulous machinist, who specialized in Stanley work, named John Packard.

The lower Mountain Wagon is in Washington state, still owned by the guy who restored it from this:
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Same guy who owns the scary blue 10hp roadster from several posts back.

There are quite a few Mountain Wagons like the upper one, but I suspect it's one on Orcas Island in Washington.

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Post by Rich Eagle » Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:18 am

The first time I saw "the scary blue 10hp roadster" it was black with Model T wheels on it. Pat was just getting his feet wet but he certainly learned fast. Those steam guys are amazing and just fun to be around.
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Post by StanleyRegister » Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:09 pm

Now he's probably one of the top 5 drivers in terms of total miles in a Stanley.

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Post by Rich Eagle » Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:29 pm

I had the pleasure to see this transference of a new body at a meet in Colorado in 1990. It had been shipped atop a Stanley Mountain Wagon from California to it's new owner. It appears to be a 1908 Stanley Model H Gentleman's Speedy Roadster like the one shown at top. The bare wood is stunning to see before it gets covered by it's wonderful colors. The craftsmanship and beauty of these things always inspires me.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Sat Apr 06, 2019 4:10 pm

Another nice original White is this 1909 Model 'O' 20 HP Touring car. Similar to the wonderful '06 Model F above it wears it's original green paint with some beautiful aging by mother nature. I had ridden with Ryan in his Fathers Green 40 HP car (2nd from the top of this thread) and toured with him before. How great it was to see his own Steamer on this tour in 2001. These photos were taken on Sept 10th that year, the day before the 9/11 attack. A Horseless Carriage tour through Yellowstone was the event.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:19 am

This popped up immediately after seeing Steve's hesitant dog video. Since it is the second White Steamer from the top in this thread I thought I'd link it. It is the one Dick Hemple built. Supposedly it was Webb Jay's personal car. Sold to Ron Thurber in the 80S? and to Jay Leno more recently. I rode in it a few times and was pleased to see it here. You can find many other steam videos if you look.
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Post by RalphS in NE Oregon » Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:04 pm

Rich, thanks for starting this thread - it is really interesting. I was at that steam car tour in Sun Valley in 1988 and remember seeing many of those cars. It was my first, and only, occasion to be around a bunch of steam cars. I will always remember the first nite when they all came back to the motel from dinner at a restaurant. They arrived just at dusk with gas lights on and they all blew off their steam in the parking lot. Quite a sight and I wish I had a video with sound of it. I also remember how the Stanley burners whined when they were pulling a grade. And how most of the Stanleys had burned paint on their hoods, which didn't seem to bother the owners any. I also decided that Stanleys were mainly steam powered tool boxes.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:11 pm

Thanks for mentioning those things Ralph. The sounds and smells are incredible things the pictures don't show. The activity of the owners was a novelty too. Lighting pilots, pumping water and air and constantly turning valves here and there. Little puddles of thick oil and water dotted the parking lot and even little tufts of asbestos where work had been done told some story I'm sure.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Wed May 01, 2019 1:22 pm

Some of the shenanigans that go on in the parking lot of a Steam Car Tour include removing the burner to fine tune things or get at other parts. This was even before the first day's drive. The upper right photo shows the many holes for the fuel to come through and heat the boiler. Bottom left shows the ends of the fire tubes swaged tight to the boiler bottom plate.
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Richard Gasparotti was another one of those wonderful Steam Characters. Shown above in his 1901 Locomobile. One of his favorite stories told of him working on the car in his garage when the Postman dropped by. "Hey, a guy on my route has one just like that" he said. How many times have we heard that old line and it turns out to be something completely different. Still, Dick asked some questions and tracked down a 1900 Locomobile in all it's original glory with fantastic patina. He was able to purchase it and had it on display in the Lobby of the 1996 Tour these photos were taken on.
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Post by Burger in Spokane » Wed May 01, 2019 10:01 pm

Going sideways a hair, ... this talk about Locomobiles, ... the man that built my house,
and most up and down the street and nearby streets, held back a double lot about six up
from mine, where he built a home for himself and his cars. The story his kids told me was
that his mother owned this area and after the war, he got discharged, came home, and put
in the streets, built the houses, etc., until he had enough money to build his own, free and
clear. He liked old cars, and had quite a few. He died the year I moved to the neighbothood,
so we never met. But I watched a curious assortment of old iron get randomly hauled away
as the family sold the cars. One of his sons kept a Locomobile from his dad's collection for
himself. It is not a steam car. A GIANT sedan. 28 or 29. What a grand, formal beast of a
car ! It remains in an unrestored/nice driver condition. A very impressive car. 👍
More people are doing it today than ever before !

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Post by Rich Eagle » Fri May 03, 2019 4:58 pm

Those gasoline Locomobiles really were monsters especially compared to the steam ones. That would have been one of the last ones.
While I have the photos out I thought these detail shots of Dick's 1900 were particularly wonderful. (or maybe it's just the NyQuil).
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The tiller steering, turned spindles for the seat and the Bevin "warning" bell were treats for me.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Sun May 19, 2019 9:05 am

A look at the Stanley dash shows quite a difference from a Model T or other gas car. Gauges and valves are continually checked and adjusted. Just above the floorboad at left is the "winker" to visibly indicate lubricating oil is flowing to the engine.
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The White has it's oiler on the dash where a T's coil box might be. Both cars have a bicycle lamp to read gauges for night driving which definitely would be an adventure of it's own. The horn bulb is mounted on the floor as the hands may be too busy to honk.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:28 am

Some other photos of the 1908 30 HP Touring car.
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Post by 2slow » Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:35 pm

I had the Stanley out yesterday. I switched from Kerosene to a 50/50 mix of diesel and gasoline for the main fuel and it seemed to like it better. Burner howled less and I didn't have one tube fire all day. If the weather holds and I can get out of work early enough I think I am going to steam it up again tomorrow and try a different burner jet size. If you are near Milford, MI and want to go for a ride, let me know.

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Post by CudaMan » Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:27 pm

There is a 30 issue collection of "Light Steam Power" for sale on Ebay right now. I would jump on it, but I already have all of those issues.

I have no connection to the listing or the seller. :)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Light-steam-po ... SwOSddAsqB
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Post by Rich Eagle » Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:51 am

I see the listing ended Jun 24, 2019 with no bidders. It's a shame. I enjoy the ones I have but didn't bid on them. There are some marvelous bits of info in them.

I was remembering the crisp cool mornings on steam tours. Everyone is up early firing up and tweaking their machines. Puddles everywhere and the smell of diesel. Hoses and propane torches are in abundance.
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Post by CudaMan » Thu Jun 27, 2019 10:08 pm

I see that The collection of 30 "Light Steam Power" magazines has been relisted on Ebay.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:35 am

I keep looking at them. The postage is $66.80 from Australia. Still 30 of them for $10 is cheap.

I ran across these today. (Steam Tour Idaho 1988) A quiet road in the Sawtooth Mountains. Feldman and Coombs in a car Mr. Leno is carring for now.
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Resting up at the motel.
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Picnic time at Creators of the Moon.
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Post by CudaMan » Sun Jul 07, 2019 1:07 pm

Richard, send the seller a note with an offer, maybe he'll take it - you never know until you ask! :)
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Post by Rich Eagle » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:26 am

There were 6 bidders yesterday and now they are gone. this one is new.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Lot-of ... SwmxVcbz1N
At least they are getting circulated.
I enjoy mine but don't have much more room for them.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:56 pm

This video is of a 1924 Brooks Steam car made in Canada.
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