Magnets in the Auxiliary Transmission Screen…..

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Magnets in the Auxiliary Transmission Screen…..

Post by MichaelPawelek » Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:56 am

What is the best adhesive to use that will tolerate the heat and vibration?

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Re: Magnets in the Auxiliary Transmission Screen…..

Post by CudaMan » Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:13 am

The screen is steel, so I just let the magnetism of the magnet keep it on the bottom of the depression of the screen (so far so good, knock on wood). My screen came with the thin rectangular magnet that nearly spans the width of the screen.
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Re: Magnets in the Auxiliary Transmission Screen…..

Post by 1923Touring » Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:34 am

After reading a post here a few years back about a magnet working its way out of the screen, I have used two pieces of safety wire to retain the magnet.

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Re: Magnets in the Auxiliary Transmission Screen…..

Post by TRDxB2 » Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:46 am

There have been previous discussion about the possibility of the bar magnet deteriorating over time and particles cause a problem. Some suggest attaching it to the outside of the transmission inspection cover; or a string magnet in that position. Was wondering if wrapping it some high temperature HVAC tape (3M™ High Temperature Aluminum Foil Tape 433, max temp over 600°F (316°C) would be an internal solution. Wiring it down to the screen is the recommend method to hold it in place. Other issues relate to it capturing too much stuff (slug etc) but that is intending use and a filter requires maintenance to keep it clean and checking the magnet; enough said. Enlarging the drain holes over the bands has also been done, but that seems to defeat the purpose of the screen.
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Neat video of oil flow without a screen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m-za3o-lWo
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Modified screen vs unmodified screen.
My choice is the unmodified screen. Drilling the holes in the screen portion doesn't cause any more oil to flow over the bands and allows nonmagnetic junk to circulate. Once the unmodified screen fills up the screen portion, all additional oil is distributed over the bands
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXimnKoDPSI
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The video of the unmodified screen - one could argue the benefit of enlarging the holes in the most forward position of the screen, need to remember that the transmission drums are rotating in a bath of oil
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Re: Magnets in the Auxiliary Transmission Screen…..

Post by Art M » Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:16 pm

I clean the screen and magnet at every oil change, which happens every 500 to 600 miles. The magnet never moves.
The screen is never filled but is partially plugged.
6200 miles so far using this filter system.
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Re: Magnets in the Auxiliary Transmission Screen…..

Post by Steve Jelf » Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:33 pm

If you're worried about the magnet wandering, why not drill a hole in the center and attach it to the screen with a sheet metal screw? I've never had one move, but I may do that just to be sure it stays put.
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Re: Magnets in the Auxiliary Transmission Screen…..

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Re: Magnets in the Auxiliary Transmission Screen…..

Post by TXGOAT2 » Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:50 pm

Many of the modern magnets are somewhat brittle. They aren't actually metal, but are some sort of composite or ceramic with metal content. I'd be cautious about drilling or bolting or otherwise fastening them. I have some old, very strong computer magnets that look like die cut steel tabs, but they aren't any common form of steel.


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Re: Magnets in the Auxiliary Transmission Screen…..

Post by tiredfarmer » Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:57 pm

After reading about a magnet being ground up when it fell into the transmission, I took mine out. I never seen any metal filings when I had it in the transmission.

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