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Steve Jelf needs help

Post by George N Lake Ozark » Wed Sep 06, 2023 6:23 pm

Flat out side of Indianapolis with two tubes blown. Does anyone in the area have a spare 30x3 1/2. Tube?? Mssg me for Steve’s number.


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Re: Steve Jelf needs help

Post by Art M » Wed Sep 06, 2023 6:40 pm

I wish i could help you at this time, but I am too far away. However i am going to the OFC on Saturday and am planning to bring several new tubes as spares for you to get back home. Hope to meet you and many more of the model T folks.

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Re: Steve Jelf needs help

Post by George House » Wed Sep 06, 2023 7:45 pm

I’m impressed Steve ! Well over 310 miles today. Aren’t you in Henry’s Hoosiers country ?
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Re: Steve Jelf needs help

Post by Rod » Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:27 pm

I’m 45 miles north of Indy and I have tubes.


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Post by Dallas Landers » Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:34 pm

The only 3 1/2 I have are mounted on kelsey rims. I have two good tubes with bad rubber stems. Not much help I know. Steve is welcome to use any of them. I am 3 hrs north of him.

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Re: Steve Jelf needs help

Post by Rod » Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:00 pm

I was able to call Steve. He is coming over to pick up a tube tomorrow

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Post by Bob McDaniel » Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:28 pm

Thanks for your help Rod, we all appreciate all the help we can get.
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Re: Steve Jelf needs help

Post by DHort » Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:58 pm

I hope he is driving over and does not need the tubes tonite. Just needs them for spares since he has/had 2 flats.

We are waiting for u Steve.


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Re: Steve Jelf needs help

Post by Scott C. » Thu Sep 07, 2023 1:26 am

I have some tubes in Waynetown.


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Re: Steve Jelf needs help

Post by Aussie16 » Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:06 am

Steve was hoping for a trouble free run with his new Blockley tyres and tubes this trip. I wonder what the problem is? Bad rims, low pressure are a couple of the problems that can cause flats but I assume Steve has been all over them? It will be interesting to get his feedback. Wishing Steve all the best for the remainder of his tour and I look forward to seeing pictures and updates.

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Post by Henry K. Lee » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:20 am

Hot Temperatures, Hot Pavement, and Hot Cord Style Tires @ 55-60 psi are a bad combination. Hope he is doing well. One thing about this, he is a new product testing laboratory in motion!

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Post by CudaMan » Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:31 am

I think Steve is/was stuck where he got the flats. Looking at this blog, he mounted two new tires and tubes the day before he left, but he had two or three bad tube blowouts during the process, leaving him with only one spare tube when he left home. :(
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Re: Steve Jelf needs help

Post by JTT3 » Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:30 am

Has anyone tried to call him on his cell just to check on him & current situation? I don’t have his number but I’m sure someone does,

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Re: Steve Jelf needs help

Post by Bob McDaniel » Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:04 am

I called him and left a message but he hasn't responded. I know a couple of people in the area he's in so I sent messages out to them to see if they were close enough to help and Rod Barrett was able to help.
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Re: Steve Jelf needs help

Post by mike catlin » Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:10 am

Not sure Steve is using the blockley tube so believe he's using Hartford tubes

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Re: Steve Jelf needs help

Post by Oldav8tor » Thu Sep 07, 2023 11:27 am

I look forward to hearing from Steve about the cause of his tube problems but agree with Mike that I believe Steve has been using Hartfords with the rubber stems replaced with salvaged, original brass stems. FWIW I installed Blockley tubes in my Universal T-Drivers 5300 miles ago and have had no issues. Previous to that I had two flats with Hartford's due to valve-stem issues.

I wish Steve the best and hope the rest of his journey is trouble free.
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Re: Steve Jelf needs help

Post by Adam » Thu Sep 07, 2023 11:54 am

If only there was some sort of product for under $50 that could be put in your tire along with a NEW tube that would greatly reduce tire troubles…

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Re: Steve Jelf needs help

Post by ChrisB » Thu Sep 07, 2023 12:39 pm

Steve's blog (to check if he doesn't post here)

https://dauntlessgeezer.com/blog923.html

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Re: Steve Jelf needs help

Post by George House » Thu Sep 07, 2023 12:55 pm

Very interesting Chris. Thanks for including his trip blog. I didn’t realize he had so much tire trouble last Friday before leaving for OCF. I hope this is the last of it and its smooth sailing now on…
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Post by RajoRacer » Thu Sep 07, 2023 1:13 pm

Steve has a few years on me & my knees surely don't appreciate the floor anymore - I do enough tires for the local club members that I justified the purchase of this mounting machine albeit manual ! Oh and yes, I install flaps if you want me to mount up your tires !
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Re: Steve Jelf needs help

Post by ChrisB » Thu Sep 07, 2023 1:27 pm

Steve, I presume that is a modern tire changer.

How do you attach the different T tires to the base?

Front wheels with hubs, rear wheel with hubs, etc.
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Re: Steve Jelf needs help

Post by TXGOAT2 » Thu Sep 07, 2023 1:32 pm

Source? Cost?

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Re: Steve Jelf needs help

Post by RajoRacer » Thu Sep 07, 2023 2:17 pm

Yes, it's a motorcycle tire mounting machine. I had a longer "spools" made to hold the clincher rim. All three spool mounts are adjustable for tension and they hold the rim quite nicely - I use longer truck style bars for mounting - it came with a long bar that works good for removing the tire if not too old & hard. I'll dig out the paperwork.

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Re: Steve Jelf needs help

Post by Rod » Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:21 pm

Steve is back on the road. I took my trailer and picked him up. We removed the wheel and placed it on a work table then removed the tire. The source of the trouble wasn’t the tube. It was the locking bead on the tire. A portion of it was damaged so when the tire was inflated, the tire came off of the rim and blew a 12” slit in the tube.

We installed a new tube and tire and it appears to be OK. 60 psi and he’s back on the road.
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Re: Steve Jelf needs help

Post by CudaMan » Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:37 pm

That's a relief, thanks for the update! :)
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Re: Steve Jelf needs help

Post by Joe Reid » Thu Sep 07, 2023 4:09 pm

Second major bead issue with Blockley I have heard of. Not very promising. They do not have much of a tread surface either.


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Re: Steve Jelf needs help

Post by speedytinc » Thu Sep 07, 2023 4:40 pm

Joe Reid wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2023 4:09 pm
Second major bead issue with Blockley I have heard of. Not very promising. They do not have much of a tread surface either.
Those rear tires ARE NOT BLOCKLEYS. Looks like a blockley on the front.

Wait for the full story before you start bad mouthing something.


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Re: Steve Jelf needs help

Post by Joe Reid » Thu Sep 07, 2023 5:04 pm

John, you are looking at the spare he just replaced the Blockley with. The Blockley with the blown bead is on the running board.


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Re: Steve Jelf needs help

Post by Joe Reid » Thu Sep 07, 2023 5:13 pm

I use the Vietnam tires as well, I have 4 Firestone sets and 1 Riverside. When I mounted the tires new I put in new tubes and flaps and have had no issues in ten years. You are at the mercy of what is available.


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Re: Steve Jelf needs help

Post by speedytinc » Thu Sep 07, 2023 5:48 pm

Joe Reid wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2023 5:04 pm
John, you are looking at the spare he just replaced the Blockley with. The Blockley with the blown bead is on the running board.
OK my bad maybe.
I have seen dozens of rim cuts from sharp beads. Thats a fault of the rim, not the tire.
I expect that to be the issue, but will wait for a first hand report.

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Re: Steve Jelf needs help

Post by dykker5502 » Fri Sep 08, 2023 1:29 am

Steve has been in a t-bone and you can read more here: https://www.mtfca.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=38610

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