1915 Brass Tail Lamp

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1915 Brass Tail Lamp

Post by George Mills » Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:44 am

Someone saw my recent post and sent me a PM asking how to visually identify a proper '15 set of lamps.

I'll share it here, someone else may want to save it also.

The windshield lamps are the same except the cap says E&J 8, and the lens is of course clear with no side glass.

My thanks again to the many forum 'friends' who helped me with advice and parts to make the package on the car complete and correct.
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Re: 1915 Brass Tail Lamp

Post by Kerry » Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:39 pm

Yes, got the light correct for 15 but now you need to find and fit the right diff and spring for a 1915. :o

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Re: 1915 Brass Tail Lamp

Post by Rata Road » Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:49 am

I would be keen to have the same info for a 1914 if anybody has it?
Thanks

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Re: 1915 Brass Tail Lamp

Post by TWrenn » Fri Oct 27, 2023 9:30 am

Rata Road wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:49 am
I would be keen to have the same info for a 1914 if anybody has it?
Thanks
Dud you try the encyclopedia on the main website?

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Re: 1915 Brass Tail Lamp

Post by Rata Road » Fri Oct 27, 2023 3:44 pm

No I havent used that before.
I'll see if i can find it.

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Re: 1915 Brass Tail Lamp

Post by Rata Road » Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:16 pm

The encyclopedia doesnt clarify the description in anyway?

All it says is -

"LAMPS: Made by Edmond and Jones (E&J), Brown, Corcoran or Victor, all “black and brass.”"

I would like some detail as explained above for the 1915 lamps if possible so I can clarify if mine are correct.
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Re: 1915 Brass Tail Lamp

Post by Drkbp » Sat Oct 28, 2023 10:47 am

Kevin,
Go to: the Encyclopedia, scroll down just a bit and hit the orange button titled "Go to the old version of the Encyclopedia", scroll down left margin to "Lamps" and pick the year.
The "blue" tab entries will show the associated lamp for the year and manufacturer. Not all the Brass & Black versions are shown so......
What do you have on your '14?
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Re: 1915 Brass Tail Lamp

Post by TRDxB2 » Sat Oct 28, 2023 1:09 pm

Here is some information from Ford Accessory Parts manuals & The Model T Encyclopedia (old & new). The issue I see is that there were many versions of oil lamp parts mentioned for 1913-1914 as unique part numbers but the parts diagram only referenced a generic part number. Referenced 1916 & 917 Accessory Parts manuals. Oil lamp bodies and are not referenced but if parts for Brown, Victor & Corcoran are specified would it follow that those lamps were used in years 1913-14 & possiblelater till inventory was used up?
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From the Encyclopedia's for 1915
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Re: 1915 Brass Tail Lamp

Post by Rata Road » Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:05 pm

Thanks Ken & Frank.
I havent seen my car in person yet (only a few photos), after several weeks waiting for a shipper that suited its planed to be picked up tomorrow and arrive here Thursday.
I intend to post pics and let the experts on here help me work out how much of it is original.
i'll see if I can find more following your directions.
Thanks again

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