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Erik Johnson
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Re: We don’t want to go.
The first photo has 1915-16-17 Minnesota license plate 87307 which was registered to A.L. Synnes of Gonvick, MN for a Ford (of course).
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Wayne Sheldon
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Re: We don’t want to go.
The first photo, clearly a 1915 with the brass trimmed sidelamps and horn bulb. The sidelamps are clearly not the unusual interim lamps that showed up on some very early 1915 style open cars. Only a couple hundred 1915 style touring cars were produced before February of 1915. Black trim on the lamps began in July of 1915, but brass trim continued on some cars as late as through August of 1915. Electric horns began being installed on open cars around June of 1915, but also the early style bulb horns continued being installed on some Ts through around August 1915.
So not a lot showing on that photo to help date the car's manufacture date. It could have been built almost anytime from February into July 1915, and possibly into late August. Maybe the license number can narrow it down a couple months?
So not a lot showing on that photo to help date the car's manufacture date. It could have been built almost anytime from February into July 1915, and possibly into late August. Maybe the license number can narrow it down a couple months?
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bobt
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Re: We don’t want to go.
The last photo reminds me of Tatum O'neil in the movie "Paper Moon" GREAT movie, GREAT model T ending.
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TWrenn
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Re: We don’t want to go.
I like 'em all and thanks again Tom
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TWrenn
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Re: We don’t want to go.
hit wrong button too soon ha ha...
Tom those 3 girls look exactly like you said!!
#5 shows a good example of possibly some entitled college boys...just have that smug look on their face!
#7 is likely more entitlement? 2 ol' gals being transported around by their man-servant chauffeur!
#9..Sunday family outing? Look at 'dem hats! The radiator on the '14 on the right sure looks different.
#10..Something about them just strikes interest....
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Erik Johnson
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Re: We don’t want to go.
RE: License plate number and dating the car in the first photo.
The Minnesota motor vehicle registration ledgers for 1909 through 1914 are in the collections of the Minnesota Historical Society. Most but not all entries include the serial number.
The registrations were also published in "Finance and Commerce of the Twin Cities" which was and still is a newspaper here in Minneapolis and there were also public Minnesota automobile directories, some of which I have in m possession. However, they do not include serial numbers.
I was able to look up the license plate number in a public directory which covers 1915 through mid-1916. I also looked it up in Finance and Commerce and the registration was published in the January 4, 1916 edition of the newspaper. I don't know what the time lag was from the time a car was registered with the secretary of state to when it was reported to and published in Finance and Commerce. In any event, in this case the license plate number isn't much help in determining when the car came off the assembly line.
On a side note, I did some casual research on A.L. Synnes and it appears that he was a professional photographer.
The Minnesota motor vehicle registration ledgers for 1909 through 1914 are in the collections of the Minnesota Historical Society. Most but not all entries include the serial number.
The registrations were also published in "Finance and Commerce of the Twin Cities" which was and still is a newspaper here in Minneapolis and there were also public Minnesota automobile directories, some of which I have in m possession. However, they do not include serial numbers.
I was able to look up the license plate number in a public directory which covers 1915 through mid-1916. I also looked it up in Finance and Commerce and the registration was published in the January 4, 1916 edition of the newspaper. I don't know what the time lag was from the time a car was registered with the secretary of state to when it was reported to and published in Finance and Commerce. In any event, in this case the license plate number isn't much help in determining when the car came off the assembly line.
On a side note, I did some casual research on A.L. Synnes and it appears that he was a professional photographer.