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1925 frame

Post by Oldrusty26 » Sun Feb 22, 2026 3:28 pm

I’ve been trying to figure this out but my question is , h only difference between a 24 and a 25 frame is the emergency brake pawl bracket has two bolts instead of 4 , am I correct , or are there other things to look for ?

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Re: 1925 frame

Post by DanTreace » Sun Feb 22, 2026 4:57 pm

Yes, some time in 1925 model year the quadrant had only 2 holes, but the frames continued for a time with the std. 4 holes till perhaps the Improved Car frame in Aug 1925.

Note the 4 holes (one is filled with a bolt), but from the factory the quadrants were riveted in place, Ford didn't use bolts for the quadrant.

1925 frame pictured, factory rivets on the new 2-hole quadrant.
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Re: 1925 frame

Post by Oldrusty26 » Sun Feb 22, 2026 5:11 pm

Thanks dan !! Everything else is the same ? I have a 25 frame in my parts pile , it’s not a huge deal to change it as I’m not that far with this build , but I also have a two hole quadrant that is off so all I’d have to do is robot or bolt it on .


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Re: 1925 frame

Post by Oldrusty26 » Sun Feb 22, 2026 5:14 pm

Rivet or bolt on , sorry


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Re: 1925 frame

Post by John kuehn » Sun Feb 22, 2026 7:01 pm

Didnt Ford keep using the 4 hole frames until the frames were used up when the 2 hole frames were being introduced?
Ford usually used older design parts until they were used up. Thanks for any info about that.


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Re: 1925 frame

Post by Mike Silbert » Sun Feb 22, 2026 8:28 pm

Probably everything you want to know about holes in frames somewhere in this posting.
https://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/3 ... 1366353153

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Re: 1925 frame

Post by speedytinc » Sun Feb 22, 2026 9:09 pm

The expert on this subject is Larry Smith.


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Re: 1925 frame

Post by Original Smith » Mon Feb 23, 2026 11:35 am

The four hole quadrant frames were used well into the new style two rivet jobs until the frames were used up. The two outer holes are the same distance apart as the old four hole jobs.


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Re: 1925 frame

Post by Oldrusty26 » Mon Feb 23, 2026 2:24 pm

Thank you !! I’m going to use the frame and just put on the quadrant that I have as opposed to changing the frame out

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Re: 1925 frame

Post by TRDxB2 » Mon Feb 23, 2026 2:33 pm

Oldrusty26 wrote:
Mon Feb 23, 2026 2:24 pm
Thank you !! I’m going to use the frame and just put on the quadrant that I have as opposed to changing the frame out
One more check for frame holes just before the quadrant check
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Re: 1925 frame

Post by speedytinc » Mon Feb 23, 2026 2:48 pm

Your profile lists a 25 TT. Different animal?


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Re: 1925 frame

Post by Oldrusty26 » Mon Feb 23, 2026 3:05 pm

[image][/image]Yes , I’m working on a 25 roadster , the TT was for my father , he passed last year , it’s going to be next on the list . I’m actually working on a few , 26 roadster pick up , 27 Tudor , I have a c cab that I’d like to put together too , lol !! I inherited the hoarder gene from him I’m afraid …
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Re: 1925 frame

Post by rickd » Mon Feb 23, 2026 3:45 pm

Pic of a 1925 two hole frame/two rivet quadrant. This is a July 1, 1925 Touring. I've owned this car since 1998, found it on a farm a little south of the town I live in.
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