Are front cross members all the same?

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Are front cross members all the same?

Post by Dennis Prince » Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:03 pm

Need to replace the front cross member on a 27 pick up and I have some older frames that I could get a donor cross member out of if they are the same. Thanks, Dennis
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Re: Are front cross members all the same?

Post by pete eastwood » Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:03 pm

TT's are different from cars. All car front crossmembers should interchange.
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Re: Are front cross members all the same?

Post by Dennis Prince » Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:56 pm

Thanks Pete, I thought that they look the same but I knew two sisters that looked the same but they weren't.
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Re: Are front cross members all the same?

Post by John kuehn » Mon Feb 17, 2020 6:07 pm

Don’t know if the later frames had the Ford script on the front crossmember but the earlier ones did. I didn’t realize the script was on it until I started to clean mine up on my 21. I don’t think it’s stamped anywhere on the frame but on the front. Maybe I just didn’t look close enough.
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Re: Are front cross members all the same?

Post by tdump » Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:14 pm

My 26 chassis has Ford on the front crossmember.
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Re: Are front cross members all the same?

Post by Steve Jelf » Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:26 pm

From the encyclopedia:

Beginning about March 19, 1919, the “Ford” logo began to be imprinted on the front cross member.

Beginning in June 1920 the front cross-member was made of heavier steel.

I used the later 1919+ cross member on my 1915 because it was NOS. I suppose I would fill in the Ford logo if it was a show car, but it's not. :)
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Re: Are front cross members all the same?

Post by ModelTWoods » Mon Feb 17, 2020 11:58 pm

26-27 rear crossmembers are supposed to be different because of the lower arched spring. So all fronts from 1919 were the same. I learned something new.
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Re: Are front cross members all the same?

Post by Original Smith » Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:52 am

The low eight leaf spring came out in mid 1925, and has nothing to do the front crossmember. It dropped the height of the front of the car one inch, and at the same time added one leaf.
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Re: Are front cross members all the same?

Post by old_charley » Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:53 am

Dennis, The front cross member on the '26 and '27 Ts are different from the '25 and earlier frames. They are made to accommodate the '26-'27 front fender irons. I don't have a picture to show you. But, if you take a close look at the one on your '27 and compare with an earlier one you'll see the obvious difference.
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Re: Are front cross members all the same?

Post by DanTreace » Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:36 pm

You could use an earlier pre-‘26 front cross member, but would need the left and right fender bracket extensions, and with some modifications re-drill holes in the earlier crossmember and rivet both back in correct place.

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Re: Are front cross members all the same?

Post by Dennis Prince » Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:47 am

Thank you all, It looks like with a little work I can make it work.
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