HELP! How to replace 1925 turtle deck with a 1925 pickup bed

Post by **JTT3** » Sun May 30, 2021 12:42 pm

I’m embarrassed to ask this but what are the steps in replacing the turtle deck on a 1925 roadster with a Ford 1925 pickup bed? Thanks for any pictures or instructions you may have in advance. Best John

Post by **JTT3** » Sun May 30, 2021 5:32 pm

Anyone please

Post by **Rich Eagle** » Sun May 30, 2021 6:34 pm

The first picture in this discussion shows 4 holes that holds the turtle deck to the body frame. That's a good place to start.
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Scott_Conger · Post by **Scott_Conger** » Sun May 30, 2021 6:37 pm

Plus 4 bolts through the front edge of the turtle-deck from behind/inside the seat-back. Unfortunately, they are typically bolts and not carriage bolts so there is a high probability that they will spin when taking the nuts off from inside the turtle-deck.

Post by **JTT3** » Sun May 30, 2021 11:10 pm

So it just mounts straight on the wood deck that the turtle deck sits on?

Post by **dhosh** » Sun May 30, 2021 11:25 pm

That's how I did mine, yes. Unbolted the turtle deck, bolted ash 2x4 or better, from side to side, then ran 1" ash deck boards front to back, and lag bolted to the 2x4 'slats'. Hi would have to really dig for some in-progress photos of it, as that was several phones ago!

Post by **JTT3** » Sun May 30, 2021 11:38 pm

Thanks love your pickup! The bed I have is the Ford steel 1925 pickup bead. Wonder if that would be different?

Post by **dhosh** » Mon May 31, 2021 12:36 am

Thanks!

I'm not sure about the metal one..... Mine was totally fabricated from local lumber my father in-law had from some trash trees he had cut a couple years earlier. I cut and planed to consistency... But not to modern dimensions.

I suspect it will be very similar... I suspect you will need at least 2 or 3 horizontal supposed for the metal bed, as well, to give it good support. Is the bed floor metal, as well, or wood slats?

Post by **Henry K. Lee** » Mon May 31, 2021 6:53 am

Metal cladding over wood is an option.

Jim Sims · Post by **Jim Sims** » Mon May 31, 2021 7:57 am

In a few hours I will let you know exactly how the factory bed is mounted on my 25. Will try to take pictures.

Jim Sims · Post by **Jim Sims** » Mon May 31, 2021 10:20 am

Remove the turtle deck, should be one bolt on each interior corner. The box should have flanges to lower over the edge of the deck platform, Should be 4 bolts spread along each side flange, back 2 are rear body mount bolts. should be a cross brace that buts against the rear of the platform, Only the rear 3 rows of the bolts are exposed that hold the metal strips between the wood bed. All the rest of these bolts are drilled thru the deck platform and are bolted thru the deck.

Post by **JTT3** » Mon May 31, 2021 11:21 am

So no cross braces need other than what’s on the pickup bed?

Post by **JTT3** » Mon May 31, 2021 11:23 am

Henry very nicely done really beautiful & the lines are crisp. You must know someone that has a lot of metal experience ha.

Jim Sims · Post by **Jim Sims** » Mon May 31, 2021 12:28 pm

Forgot to mention one thing, You must remove the roadster fender mounts, the pickup uses mounts that are fastened directly to the side of the box.

Post by **JTT3** » Mon May 31, 2021 12:50 pm

Jim thank you. I knew about the fender post but that’s a great reminder. Best John

Post by **kmatt2** » Mon May 31, 2021 2:00 pm

In addition to the fender mount change you will need a commercial type taillight bracket to mount your taillight under the pickup bed. If you have demountable wheels you will need to decide where to mount your spare, under bed, at driver's side fake door ( USA ), or in bed.

Post by **JTT3** » Mon May 31, 2021 10:40 pm

So Kevin what does one look like that I need and where exactly does it go?

Post by **JTT3** » Mon May 31, 2021 10:45 pm

Kevin what does the tail light & mount look like and
Where is it suppose to be mounted? Thanks John

Post by **Afrazer** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:44 am

This is the bracket you need. It will attach on the cross bracket bottom of bed that runs against the body. Believe it was attached by riveting.I used a different light then the 26 light that is shown. Bed should attach to body by 3 bolt holes along same body line below roadster deck. I don’t have pictures of mine but could take some if needed

Post by **KLTagert** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:28 am

Glad to see another steel bed ‘25 come to life. When you get it put together- let Larry Smith in CA know. I believe he’s keeping track of the ‘25 steel bed Roadster pickups. They’re a great conversation piece at shows.

Post by **JTT3** » Wed Jun 02, 2021 1:32 am

David how hard are those mounting brackets to find?

Post by **Afrazer** » Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:07 am

They were used on ton trucks and the roadster pickups. So they come up every now and then. I purchased a reproduction from a vender.

Post by **JTT3** » Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:43 am

Would someone please take a picture of the taillight mounted on the pickup

Jim Sims · Post by **Jim Sims** » Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:58 pm

Lets see if this works

: Tail light mount

Post by **JTT3** » Wed Jun 02, 2021 1:21 pm

Now I get it, thanks Jim for the pictures

Post by **Dan Hatch** » Wed Jun 02, 2021 1:43 pm

John: My US early 25 PU does not have the metal trim around the rear of the sills. I think that this bed came from factory installed on this truck. Why put on trim if it was going to get a bed?
That said, the gap is very close to bed where trim would be.
Check that out before you try to install bed.
By way RHD 25 Pu has trim, but bed is not on it yet. Was told it was complete PU also. Dan

PS : 25 PU left factory with a spare rim nailed to bed of truck. Never was spare mount from factory for 25 PU.

Post by **JTT3** » Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:32 pm

Thanks Dan doing some measuring. My bed is a very early 1925 off a late Dec of 1924 roadster pickup. The tail gate does not have Ford on it. Best John

Post by **Dan Hatch** » Thu Jun 03, 2021 2:11 am

My US 25 does not have Ford on gate too. The RHD has Ford on gate.
I have only seen one other bed without Ford on gate. Dan

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