'19 Hays Wire Wheel Stuck on Car

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'19 Hays Wire Wheel Stuck on Car

Post by Buckelew » Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:06 pm

I need to re-line the AC auxiliary brakes on my '20 speedster, so I must remove the 1919 or so Hays wire wheels. The passenger side was removed without an issue, but the wheel on the driver's side won't budge.

What can I do to remove the hub? Is there a hub puller made specifically for these early wires?

Thanks, David


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Re: '19 Hays Wire Wheel Stuck on Car

Post by Dropacent » Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:14 pm

Having owned and used those, they are bear to get off. If not confident using an axle knocker nut,( that’s the easiest and best way ). back the nut off a couple threads and drive around just a short bit. They usually will come unglued. Don’t overdo the driving. I always truly enjoyed installing cotter pins in my Hayes. I invented a couple new words until I got the hang of making curved cotter keys,

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Re: '19 Hays Wire Wheel Stuck on Car

Post by Buckelew » Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:17 pm

Thanks, will try it. The other side has always loosened itself, and the driver's side has always been a bear but never this bad.


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Re: '19 Hays Wire Wheel Stuck on Car

Post by Dan Hatch » Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:25 pm

Hayes made a special puller for the rear. Screws in like hub cap and pulls wheels. Dan


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Re: '19 Hays Wire Wheel Stuck on Car

Post by ThreePedalTapDancer » Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:32 pm

Posted on an old thread by Mike Bender http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/29 ... 1176499853
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Re: '19 Hays Wire Wheel Stuck on Car

Post by Allan » Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:19 am

My son made me a puller. It is a simple thick steel disc with the hubcap thread machined on the outside. He heavily welded a large nut on the outside and this is used to screw the unit into the wheel. A bolt screws through the large nut to register on the axle to provide the 'push' to get the wheel free.
It works like a charm, and I have since found out that a factory Hayes puller works the same way, except that the hex to screw it into the wheel is part of the Machined disc.

Hope this helps,
Allan from down under.

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