1926 coupe rear shade spring dowel broke.

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1926 coupe rear shade spring dowel broke.

Post by jiminbartow » Sun Apr 17, 2022 3:23 pm

I attempted to pull down the shade today and there was no resistance or recoil. I dismantled the shade return shaft and found that the dowel at the center of the spring had broken at the pin. I am in the process of repairing the dowel but I need to ask about where the spring end attaches. Does it thread through the two metal openings just inside the metal end where the dowel attaches? Thank you. Jim Patrick.

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Re: 1926 coupe rear shade spring dowel broke.

Post by John.Zibell » Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:06 pm

I'd just replace the entire unit. Several types available at Lang's. Here is an example of just some of them. http://www.modeltford.com/pl.aspx?t=s&v ... &s=&page=2
1926 Tudor


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Re: 1926 coupe rear shade spring dowel broke.

Post by jiminbartow » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:19 pm

Well, I tried to glue it with yellow wood glue, but with so much oil saturated into the wood and dry rot, the glue did not take, so, I bought a 3/8” diameter dowel and replaced the old broken dowel with a new one. Better than new. As I suspected and in answer to my original question, the end of the spring hooks into the metal loop just under the shade mechanism, providing the recoil for the shade, as the end turns separate from the dowel, applying tension to the spring, the more it is turned. Jim Patrick

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Re: 1926 coupe rear shade spring dowel broke.

Post by ModelTWoods » Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:10 pm

jiminbartow wrote:
Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:19 pm
Well, I tried to glue it with yellow wood glue, but with so much oil saturated into the wood and dry rot, the glue did not take, so, I bought a 3/8” diameter dowel and replaced the old broken dowel with a new one. Better than new. As I suspected and in answer to my original question, the end of the spring hooks into the metal loop just under the shade mechanism, providing the recoil for the shade, as the end turns separate from the dowel, applying tension to the spring, the more it is turned. Jim Patrick


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Jim, I've got to hand it to you; You deserve an Oscar for some of your "fix it" ideas.


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Re: 1926 coupe rear shade spring dowel broke.

Post by jiminbartow » Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:00 pm

Thanks Terry. In this hobby, when hard to replace Model T parts get irreparably broken, it sometimes helps to be somewhat inventive. Jim Patrick

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Re: 1926 coupe rear shade spring dowel broke.

Post by Humblej » Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:16 pm

Can you show the other shade parts too please.


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Re: 1926 coupe rear shade spring dowel broke.

Post by jiminbartow » Mon Apr 18, 2022 9:27 pm

Here you go, Jeff. There are four parts:

1. The hollow metal shade tube.
2. The spring recoil mechanism.
3. One end bracket with a rectangular hole for mechanism.
4. One end bracket with a round hole.

Jim Patrick

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Re: 1926 coupe rear shade spring dowel broke.

Post by Humblej » Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:28 am

Good pictures, thanks, that is helpful.


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Re: 1926 coupe rear shade spring dowel broke.

Post by jiminbartow » Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:16 am

Glad to help. Jim Patrick


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Re: 1926 coupe rear shade spring dowel broke.

Post by jiminbartow » Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:59 pm

Installed. Works great! Jim Patrick.

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