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Gates Black Belt Number Chart

Post by J1MGOLDEN » Thu Aug 25, 2022 7:34 pm

I have a 1920 engine with a Gates 819 black belt that is too short.

I have 19 spare belts and no Gates 820 black belt.

A Gates 821 is also missing, but a G number brown belt is 27 inches and too long.

How long is an 820 and why do I not have one?

Is it because they are no longer made?

Does anyone have a Gates chart to share?


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Re: Gates Black Belt Number Chart

Post by Dennis_Brown » Thu Aug 25, 2022 10:11 pm

The 820 gates belt, is the 820 a millimeter measurement for length? If it is a serpentine belt shows up when I type Gates 820 black belt into Google. Unless you are going for show originality and this length would fit, you can turn these inside out and run them. Just a suggestion and your local Napa store usually handles Gates.


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Re: Gates Black Belt Number Chart

Post by Dan Hatch » Thu Aug 25, 2022 10:17 pm

I will look in my old gates catalog tomorrow and see if they were listed in them. I know we’re in the 60’s but don’t think my catalog goes back that far. Dan


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Re: Gates Black Belt Number Chart

Post by Dan Hatch » Thu Aug 25, 2022 10:40 pm

Found this on line no 820 listed any more.Items
Part # Product # Description Top Width(in) Top Width(mm) Effective Length (in) Effective Length (mm) Notched Outside Circumference (in) Outside Circumference (mm) Section
811 87800811 811 VINTAGE BELT 1.13 29 22.5 572 false 23.03 585 FLAT
813 87800813 813 VINTAGE BELT 1.13 29 26.75 679 false 27.28 693 FLAT
814 87800814 814 VINTAGE BELT 1.13 29 31.5 800 false 32.03 814 FLAT
822 87800822 822 VINTAGE BELT 1 25 36 914 false 36.53 928 FLAT

Here ii link
https://www.gates.com/us/en/power-trans ... belts.html


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Re: Gates Black Belt Number Chart

Post by J1MGOLDEN » Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:32 am

My problem is with a 1920 engine.

The two different sized crankshaft pulleys are listed for 1920, one at the end and one at the beginning of years they fit.

I used the larger size pulley!

I'm wondering if a Gates 820 flat black belt was intended for use on the 1920 new size crankshaft pulley.

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