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Dash panel?

Post by Paul-Geil » Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:54 pm

Is this a model T dash panel?
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Re: Dash panel?

Post by Allan » Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:12 pm

Not like one I have ever seen. The only gauge a T ever had was an ammeter.

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Re: Dash panel?

Post by TRDxB2 » Sun Nov 13, 2022 1:53 am

Might be able to identify it by the individual pieces. after some investigation saw it was on eBay
First impressions: the plate looks manufactured; to plain for an auto might be for a truck or made up for a speedster.
The ammeter & oil pressure gauge made by the National Gauge and Equipment Company (Motometer) was used on Dodge Brothers, Chevrolet & Stephens that I know of. Internet shows one for motor cycles and that date range might help narrow down a search.
Would be helpful to see the back of the switch, its backing may indicate a manufacture., although the key #35 says Briggs & Startton
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Re: Dash panel?

Post by John kuehn » Sun Nov 13, 2022 8:33 am

It’s not a T era Ford dash panel. Looking at it close just the panel itself it’s not homemade but was used in another vehicle.

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Re: Dash panel?

Post by Mark Gregush » Sun Nov 13, 2022 11:06 am

John kuehn wrote:
Sun Nov 13, 2022 8:33 am
It’s not a T era Ford dash panel. Looking at it close just the panel itself it’s not homemade but was used in another vehicle.
Looks T era to me, just not Ford, Chevrolet or Dodge Brothers.
I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas! :shock:

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Re: Dash panel?

Post by Rich Eagle » Sun Nov 13, 2022 12:18 pm

The fuse panel and layout are much like these Maxwell dashes, but I don't see a match. Maybe with the oil gauge it is later than what I have seen, or perhaps it is Chalmers or Chrysler.
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Re: Dash panel?

Post by jiminbartow » Sun Nov 13, 2022 12:45 pm

Yes and no. Just my opinion, but it appears to be a nicely made, homemade, T era dash panel, using Model T gauges and switch parts. I don’t know why the maker felt the need for it, but I’m sure he thought it necessary, was proud of his creation and put it to good use in whatever vehicle he mounted it in. The actual Model T dash was versatile and large enough not to need such an instrument panel. Jim Patrick

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Re: Dash panel?

Post by TRDxB2 » Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:14 pm

I would say everyone agrees that there is nothing Model T about this dash, not sure about the speedometer.
Also, the ammeter and oil pressure gauges don't appear to be made by what Maxwell was using in that period (the Maxwell oil pressure 192-25 by US Gauge Company).
The rectangular shape of the dash panel does look like a Maxwell dash, from 1917 but before 1925, and the fuse box door does match to the knob.
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The embossed switch headings on the left side of the panel suggest a manufactured panel. But that only means the panel may be an original but not the placement of each gauge. What is unusual and may narrow down the possibilities is the REAR position on the switch face. Anyone know of cars that had a REAR position on the ignition switch, besides Buick & Chandler?
So some aspects also suggest a modification to an original panel .
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In internet searching for a REAR position on a ignition switch I found another possibility. If you look closely at the bottom image the ignition switch does have a position left of DIM. Also the gauges appear to have the same logo's as the dash in question (Nation Gauge & Equipment Company)
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Re: Dash panel?

Post by Paul-Geil » Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:24 am

Thanks guys, for all the great information.
Paul

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