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If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by Model T Ron » Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:41 pm

I have a 1915 Touring but I am thinking about a second T to keep Bernice company. What year/model would you get and why?


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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by John kuehn » Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:54 pm

Since you have a brass T get something in the low cowl era that has a starter. But then you might want to stay in the brass era? To each his own I guess.


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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by Model T Ron » Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:00 pm

John kuehn wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:54 pm
Since you have a brass T get something in the low cowl era that has a starter. But then you might want to stay in the brass era? To each his own I guess.
Brass is nice but not a requirement at all. I was thinking about a closed car for the cooler months hear in Carolina. What years would give me the most leg room? Were any of the years special for one reason or another?


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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by speedytinc » Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:12 pm

26-7 2 door sedan.
No wood = no body issues. Plenty of room. Improved car advantages. A parking brake that can be used like a rocky mountain service brake. 4 dip pan with bolt on hogs head. Easy to service & ridgid power plant. Wire wheels, so no wood spoke issues. Cheaper tires. High gas tank = no hill issues & fuel. Windshield or cowl duct air conditioning.


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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by Bryant » Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:46 pm

I would like to build a closed cab pickup out of a sedan body or an early coupe. Why? Because I can ;)
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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by Craig Leach » Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:29 pm

Hi Ronald,
My wife is in agreement with the closed car idea.
John K,
Isn't that a Dodge??
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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by Art M » Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:02 pm

I would like to have an 11 or 12 roadster pickup, just like the one that Tim Wrenn sold in about 2018.

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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by Erik Barrett » Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:37 pm

26/27 Tudor sedan is a great choice. You can move the front seats back to accommodate plus sized individuals. I am 6’2” and very comfortable in mine. Great in cool weather and room for more than just two. Also, all steel so no structural body wood to go bad. But wait, there’s more! They are not rare at all and can be had relatively cheap. Shop around and you can get into a real decent driver at around $8K leaving you room to work with for improvements and updates you chose. As mentioned here you get all the advantages of the “improved” late cars. I can’t get a second T anymore. It would have to be a fifth.


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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by Model T Ron » Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:49 pm

Erik Barrett wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:37 pm
26/27 Tudor sedan is a great choice. You can move the front seats back to accommodate plus sized individuals. I am 6’2” and very comfortable in mine. Great in cool weather and room for more than just two. Also, all steel so no structural body wood to go bad. But wait, there’s more! They are not rare at all and can be had relatively cheap. Shop around and you can get into a real decent driver at around $8K leaving you room to work with for improvements and updates you chose. As mentioned here you get all the advantages of the “improved” late cars. I can’t get a second T anymore. It would have to be a fifth.
Thanks Eric

You do make a very good case for a 26/27 2 door sedan. The only negative to me is that they look more like a Model A but then again they offer a lot of positives.


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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by Burger in Spokane » Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:30 am

To me Improved cars ARE Model A's, so those are out of consideration.
But then again, I am inclined to freight hauling trucks, so the "A" look
just doesn't come into the equation.

A reality check about 25 years ago had me pare down a stable of two
dozen cars to just one ... my DeSoto. Then the number crept back up
to nine, and another reality check saw me sell off six and buy my TT.
I am so tickled with the TT, the other cars just sit. Maybe if I ever retire
I'll get to them ? In the meantime, a 25 roadster pickup sounds like a
fun one to tweak for high speed runs, when I don't need the weight
hauling capacity of the TT. Another intriguing one would be a speedster
like Chris Becker's green car. Chances are, at my age, I will just enjoy/
refine the TT and finish what work remains on my three newer old cars
.... IF I live that long.
More people are doing it today than ever before !

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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by Steve Jelf » Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:32 am

To accompany my 1915 runabout, my "second" T depends on which project I get running first. That will be a 1923 touring, a 1923 Fordor, a 1924 TT, or a 1926 RP. I'll probably go with the touring first, then the TT so I can use it for hauling.
The inevitable often happens.
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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by Nv Bob » Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:42 am

Ammichures owned over 45 Ts in last 35 years
Currently own 3
But 42 have been past along to good homes
Plenty out there still need good homes
Get tge parts and biuld one no one else has
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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by Erik Barrett » Sun Jan 08, 2023 3:13 am

Well Ron, if you are thinking enclosed car that looks older than a model A they are out there but be advised they will be what are what are called coachbuilt bodies. Not just Fords, pretty much anything of that vintage. This means they have a thin metal skin applied over a wooden structure. When that wood is not sound you will wish it was. When you look at one of these cars the first thing you do is open the driver’s door. If it wants to sag or fall off there are issues with the structural wood. It may be as simple as worn screw holes in the door pillar which are easily repaired, or a wood replacement situation which will cost more than a better car that doesn’t need it. Avoid centerdoor sedans if you want to be able to get in and out of it without performing gymnastics. At risk of being flamed here for being a heretic, there are many great deals to be had on fine 20’s era non Ford cars that are great machines and very good drivers. I am a fan of all antique cars. If you were to come and drive my 1927 T and then my 1927 Buick, you would know why it was much more expensive. Keep an open mind in your search. Fordially, Erik


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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by Alan Long » Sun Jan 08, 2023 3:46 am

I already have two Model T’s 1910 Tourer / 26 Roadster Pick up. I’m thinking of a C Cab nicely sign written. I’m thinking of that
for the secure storage area for the stuff we find ourselves taking on runs. Closed cars are fine but some who have them find
it’s too hot inside and describes it like being in a Fan Forced Oven! In colder climates the heat could be advantageous🤔🤔
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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by Jerry VanOoteghem » Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:22 am

Who has only 1 Model T? :lol:

My "next" T would be a roadster pickup. If I had the room for it, I'd also love a C-Cab type TT truck with the steel box.


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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by Russ T Fender » Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:00 am

Not me! Everyone needs a touring car, a runabout, a speedster and a closed car to be ready for anything! Oh and one of each in brass and black. Still missing a TT but have to find the room first!


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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by Model T Ron » Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:28 am

Eric
The 26 and 27 2 Door is sounding better and better. Are they the only steel body Model T ever made?


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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by TXGOAT2 » Sun Jan 08, 2023 11:15 am

The entire 1926-27 passenger car line had mostly steel bodies. The late roadsters are short on legroom, and interior space overall is quite limited. The late touring models may have more front legroom. (?) If the late touring cars do have more front legroom, I'd like to own one.


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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by Erik Barrett » Sun Jan 08, 2023 11:37 am

Ron, every Ford prior to 1926 used wood framed bodies except TT cabs 1924/25.


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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by Rich P. Bingham » Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:06 pm

TXGOAT2 wrote:
Sun Jan 08, 2023 11:15 am
The entire 1926-27 passenger car line had mostly steel bodies. . .
Except the Fordor
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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by Bruce Compton » Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:19 pm

Without question, my first choice would be a '22-'23 coupe. I recently sold my "barn-find" '21 and will always regret doing so. These coupes have way more interior room than any other T due to the lack of a package tray behind the seat, easy entry and exit with the suicide doors, and provide the benefits of an enclosed cat to boot. Henry drove one (with annual updates) as his personal car right up to 1927 so there must be something to that. As with all T's, safety glass is a must.

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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by Susanne » Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:21 pm

Next would be a very early starter/generator car, probably a roadster, followed by an Improved T, probably a 2 passenger, followed by a fairly early (say, open valve) brass car... Somewhere in there would (of course) be a speedster and a commercial car... Did I mention a TT? I won't even get into Fordson... :D


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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by DHort » Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:41 pm

Once you have tried a speedster.....


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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by John kuehn » Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:49 pm

The 26-27 improved closed T’s are a little more solid but if there are any issues about them is that they are a slower car because of the weight. That and Henry’s reluctance to change was the reason sales dropped. IVE NEVER OWNED AN IMPROVED 26-27 T AND HAVE ONLY READ HERE ON THE FORUM about them being slower. I’m sure you would improve the HP with a improved head and a Ruxtell for going up hills. I’m very sure there will other opinions!!

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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by Rich Eagle » Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:10 pm

Bruce Compton wrote:
Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:19 pm
These coupes have way more interior room than any other T due to the lack of a package tray behind the seat, easy entry and exit with the suicide doors...
The cowl is shorter also, allowing the dash to be a few inches farther forward. It is very spacious inside.
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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by Professor Fate » Sun Jan 08, 2023 7:58 pm

My 1rst T was a '23 Touring.
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Then I wanted a speedster of sorts and built my '26 Touring from a rolling chassis.
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Both cars now compete for my driving attention. 😁 Some days it's a really difficult choice to pick which one to drive. So sometimes I have to drive both!
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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by Model T Ron » Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:26 pm

Bruce Compton wrote:
Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:19 pm
Without question, my first choice would be a '22-'23 coupe. I recently sold my "barn-find" '21 and will always regret doing so. These coupes have way more interior room than any other T due to the lack of a package tray behind the seat, easy entry and exit with the suicide doors, and provide the benefits of an enclosed cat to boot. Henry drove one (with annual updates) as his personal car right up to 1927 so there must be something to that. As with all T's, safety glass is a must.

Thanks Bruce
I know of a 25 for sale near me. Would a 25 have the same room as a 21 to 23 if you removed the package tray? If so is removing it a simple job?


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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by Harry Lillo » Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:51 pm

It is interesting that there has only been one fleeting comment about a Fordor
and I don't believe anyone has mentioned a depot hack?
Driving up north where we live, two of my friends believe a Fordor
is the best second car. Particularly on multi day tours with changing weather conditions.
My speedster is my first car but my depot hack with full side curtains
is my go to vesicle for long distance touring. Lots of room for camping gear and occasional
additional passenger if someone breaks down.
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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by EricMac » Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:59 pm

My FIRST Model T is a '26 Fordor which I consider to be a lifetime car. My other permanent keeper is my '13 Touring. If I were to add just one more I would buy or assemble an '11 open Runabout, the kind with the Torpedo style fenders, though I have always wanted a '14 Touring and find the 17-22 tourings very appealing. I feel there are positive qualities about each Era. The people who try to buy one of each have the right idea!
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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by bdtutton » Sun Jan 08, 2023 11:25 pm

I have a 1914 Touring and I keep telling my wife that I want a newer enclosed T with more horsepower, an electric starter, wire wheels and better lighting so I can drive it in regular traffic. My wife then reminds me that I have a 1930 Model A that has all those things plus 3 point seat belts and a good heater. So now I am telling her I want a 1907 Ford Model S....for some reason she rolls her eyes and shakes her head a lot.


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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by CatGuy » Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:17 pm

I would like to get a TT. I want to go slower! :) Not sure why one interests me, but it does. Maybe because I remember my grandfather talking about these cars and, being a farmer, he most likely drove one. There is one not far from me that is a '26. Restoration began on it maybe 30 years ago (or more) and it's been sitting with the fresh paint ready to be reassembled! The other option for me would be a Touring Car.


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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by Bruce Compton » Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:18 pm

Ron Bakow; I really don't know if you can remove the package tray in a '25 Coupe and move the seat back in the cab. Have a real close look before trying it and expect to have some upholstery issues, but it would sure make lots more room. I had a '25 Coupe as well and was amazed at the leg-room difference with the '21.


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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by RVA23T » Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:53 pm

TXGOAT2 wrote:
Sun Jan 08, 2023 11:15 am
The entire 1926-27 passenger car line had mostly steel bodies. The late roadsters are short on legroom, and interior space overall is quite limited. The late touring models may have more front legroom. (?) If the late touring cars do have more front legroom, I'd like to own one.
Pat, I have a 23 Touring and have ridden with BobT here in town in his 26 touring and I still keep thinking how much less leg room there is in the he front in his 26 Touring vs my 23 Touring in spite of the extra length in the cowl area. If one is in the 6' range I would stay '25 and down for better legroom if going after an open car for a 2nd vehicle.
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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by John kuehn » Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:45 pm

I have a 24 Coupe which is pretty much identical to a 25 and if the package tray is removed you still would have to deal with the seat support if you wanted to move the seat back. You couldn’t move the seat much because of the gas tank as it’s directly under the front seat.

The earlier Coupes I think have the gas tank in the trunk and would give you a little more room for the seat being back farther than a 24-25.


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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by Model T Ron » Mon Jan 09, 2023 6:40 pm

John kuehn wrote:
Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:45 pm
I have a 24 Coupe which is pretty much identical to a 25 and if the package tray is removed you still would have to deal with the seat support if you wanted to move the seat back. You couldn’t move the seat much because of the gas tank as it’s directly under the front seat.

The earlier Coupes I think have the gas tank in the trunk and would give you a little more room for the seat being back farther than a 24-25.
It sounds like I need a 21 to 23 Coupe if I go that route. Did all 23's come without the package shelf or is it a split year?


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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by Pat Branigan Wisc » Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:33 pm

I currently have a 1909, two 1910s, two 1911s and a 1913. All are tourings. My next one currently looking is going to be a 1910 Shriners Tin Lizzie for my Grandsons. I need to down size with the full size ones.


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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by Pat Branigan Wisc » Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:33 pm

I currently have a 1909, two 1910s, two 1911s and a 1913. All are tourings. My next one currently looking is going to be a 1910 Shriners Tin Lizzie for my Grandsons. I need to down size with the full size ones.


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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by AndyClary » Tue Jan 10, 2023 12:51 am

My 26 coupe is not slow. Probably best driving and comfortable T I’ve been in, I’ll miss it when it’s gone.

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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by Joe Bell » Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:33 pm

I had a 25 Coupe I was rebuilding, after working on several have decided it was not for me, picked up a 21 and it has more room for us taller people.I do enjoy the closed cars for tours on them cold or rainy days.

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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by George House » Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:13 am

I’ll tell you what it Wouldn’t be and why ! A danged ‘new and improved’ Model T. I have 2 of ‘em. I had to remove the LF fender yesterday to do some body and paint work. This entailed removal of the headlamps and headlamp bar on the ‘26 tudor. Then I had to drain and remove the radiator because it rests on the hood cleats that rests on the front radiator apron. Next I get to remove several hood cleat carriage bolts and 2 hood hooks. But the radiator apron wouldn’t be removed unless I removed the crank and ratchet. Next is the 5 fender-to-splash apron bolts. Oh, but the fender support is riveted to the fender so I get to also remove 3 fender bracket bolts.😞😞🤪😞 After removing the 2 fender-to-running board carriage bolts I could FINALLY lift off the fender. Contrast this pain in the butt exercise with the ease of removing a 09-25 front fender 😎
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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by JTT3 » Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:20 am

George you’re just saying that cause it’s true!


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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by John kuehn » Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:26 am

Yes that’s the down side of the Improved Fords. When your use to working on the earlier T’s and can do it with common tools and easy on and off it’s more fun! For me anyway!


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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by speedytinc » Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:32 am

There is a price to pay for all that "improvement" :D


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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by MichaelPawelek » Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:56 am

George House wrote:
Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:13 am
I’ll tell you what it Wouldn’t be and why ! A danged ‘new and improved’ Model T. I have 2 of ‘em. I had to remove the LF fender yesterday to do some body and paint work. This entailed removal of the headlamps and headlamp bar on the ‘26 tudor. Then I had to drain and remove the radiator because it rests on the hood cleats that rests on the front radiator apron. Next I get to remove several hood cleat carriage bolts and 2 hood hooks. But the radiator apron wouldn’t be removed unless I removed the crank and ratchet. Next is the 5 fender-to-splash apron bolts. Oh, but the fender support is riveted to the fender so I get to also remove 3 fender bracket bolts.😞😞🤪😞 After removing the 2 fender-to-running board carriage bolts I could FINALLY lift off the fender. Contrast this pain in the butt exercise with the ease of removing a 09-25 front fender 😎
George has apparently never heard of a acetylene torch……😊


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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by ModelT46 » Wed Jan 11, 2023 12:38 pm

A 1927 roadster would be nice. I owned one back about 1960. A really nice T and it was a very late one, made in late May of 1927. A fun car.

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Re: If you got a second T what would it be any why

Post by George House » Wed Jan 11, 2023 12:44 pm

In about a week, would anyone be interested in buying a gorgeously restored gunmetal blue ‘26 tudor with: completely restored driveline, straw colored wire wheels, Giant Power Head, Simmons straight thru on a hi volume intake and a cast iron 3 speed Warford. You’ll be amazed at its ease of maintenance 😜
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