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Dual advance distributor

Post by Les Schubert » Sun Apr 02, 2023 5:00 pm

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Finally have it clamped on!
A copy of a design of mine from the’80’s.
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Borg Warner automatic for my wife’s speedster!

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Re: Dual advance distributor

Post by Kaiser » Mon Apr 03, 2023 5:19 am

Now that's a first for me, an automatic behind a T engine, nifty setup ! ;)
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Re: Dual advance distributor

Post by Les Schubert » Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:32 am

I’ve probably seen half a dozen of them over the years!


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Re: Dual advance distributor

Post by TXGOAT2 » Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:45 am

Some vacuum advance units connect to manifold vacuum, but many connect to a special vacuum advance port on the carburetor which is near the throttle plate.


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Re: Dual advance distributor

Post by Les Schubert » Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:47 pm

I will be connecting it to the intake manifold.


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Re: Dual advance distributor

Post by Tom Dove Jr » Tue Apr 04, 2023 5:24 pm

You’ve built this before? How much total advance did/will you run?

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Re: Dual advance distributor

Post by Les Schubert » Tue Apr 04, 2023 6:41 pm

I haven’t researched that yet. Running a Prus head


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Re: Dual advance distributor

Post by Erik Barrett » Tue Apr 04, 2023 8:39 pm

Vacuum advance units are almost always hooked to ported vacuum. This gives them advance from just off idle to part throttle and takes it back when the engine is working hard at wide open throttle.


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Re: Dual advance distributor

Post by AndyClary » Tue Apr 04, 2023 11:11 pm

Vacuum advance is primarily a fuel economy feature. It allows more advance in the light throttle/low load than the engine would tolerate under load. The increased advance improves fuel economy. I’d be interested in hearing how this translates in a T. The centrifugal advance would have to come in pretty early.

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Re: Dual advance distributor

Post by TXGOAT2 » Tue Apr 04, 2023 11:26 pm

I've had poor results with a street driven engine with centrifugal-only spark control.

The same engine/manifold/carburetor with a vacuum/centrifugal distributor with the advance unit connected to ported vacuum made a huge difference in overall performance and in throttle response.


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Re: Dual advance distributor

Post by Les Schubert » Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:43 am

My previous one of the identical design has worked well for 40 years. The car is capable of 100 mph and is easy to drive (no spark management required). The 71 car it came from had it connected to the intake manifold.


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Re: Dual advance distributor

Post by BobD » Wed Apr 05, 2023 11:11 am

Nice work Les. What did you source the distributor from? Some of the Model A guys have retrofitted a '70's Honda centrifugal / vacuum advance distributor with excellent results. However, the supply of these distributors seems to be drying up.

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