1916 runabout door doesn’t fit
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1916 runabout door doesn’t fit
I have a newly acquired 16 runabout, the door seems too big for the opening. If I push at the base of the windshield on the right side I can get it closed. Does anyone have any tips on what I can do to correct this? I’m new to model Ts.
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Re: 1916 runabout door doesn’t fit
The underlaid wood framing in the cowl needs attention and straightening
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Re: 1916 runabout door doesn’t fit
Place shims, (washers), between the body mounting points and the frame in order to raise or lower areas of the body as needed to widen the door opening. You can see that by simply pushing on the window frame, as you have done, that the body is flexible enough to handle it.w_cbeyer@hotmail.com wrote: ↑Tue Sep 02, 2025 1:26 pmI have a newly acquired 16 runabout, the door seems too big for the opening. If I push at the base of the windshield on the right side I can get it closed. Does anyone have any tips on what I can do to correct this? I’m new to model Ts.
Actually, it's most likely that your frame is a bit sagged out. Some strategic shimming however can correct it if it's not too severe.
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Re: 1916 runabout door doesn’t fit
Remember that Model T bodies up to early 25 are wood structured bodies covered over sheet metal. They do flex over time. Shims are needed for yours. Remove the floor boards and you can see the brackets on the body wood where they are attached with a bolt to the frame.
You might need to add a shim ( washers) between the frame and body wood to move the body upward a bit.
You can crawl under the car and look upward to see if the wood underneath looks original or if the car was rewooded sometime later.
You might need to add a shim ( washers) between the frame and body wood to move the body upward a bit.
You can crawl under the car and look upward to see if the wood underneath looks original or if the car was rewooded sometime later.
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Re: 1916 runabout door doesn’t fit
Thanks for the info, I knew there would be a wealth of good info on here. I’m pretty sure everything is original on this car it’s been on blocks for more than 50 years
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Re: 1916 runabout door doesn’t fit
Do you think a washer under the right front bracket will do it? I removed the bolt but it doesn’t appear that I can lift it very easily.
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Re: 1916 runabout door doesn’t fit
What is the condition of your plywood firewall? I would also check the two bolts that are visible above the hood. I would also check the three step bolts (large head carriage bolts) that secure the right side of the firewall to the iron brackets bolted to the top of the frame.
If any of these bolts are loose, you could see the cowl rocking and pinching the door,
If any of these bolts are loose, you could see the cowl rocking and pinching the door,
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Re: 1916 runabout door doesn’t fit
And, Fordors are wood structure through 1927.John kuehn wrote: ↑Tue Sep 02, 2025 2:32 pmRemember that Model T bodies up to early 25 are wood structured bodies covered over sheet metal. They do flex over time. Shims are needed for yours. Remove the floor boards and you can see the brackets on the body wood where they are attached with a bolt to the frame.
You might need to add a shim ( washers) between the frame and body wood to move the body upward a bit.
You can crawl under the car and look upward to see if the wood underneath looks original or if the car was rewooded sometime later.
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