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- First Name: Edwin
- Last Name: Douglas
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- Location: Millport, PA
Engine Stand help
Good morning Forum and Chums,
I’d like to ask for your help one more time here on my 27 Tudor restoration. Initially I was just going to do an engine refresh as the engine wasn’t overly worn…..was gonna just keep the engine and trans in the car…….had wanted to get rid of two piece valves, install a re-ground or new Stipe, cam, etc..
Unfortunately, I found the transmission doesn’t wanna cooperate with my plan…. so now I am afraid the engine has got to come out and I have to address some very loose triple gears.
Getting the engine out, it’s not gonna be a problem, where I would like some help is with engine stand…. If anyone has a picture or two of your model T engine on an engine stand, I would dearly like to see them to get some ideas of something I can fabricate or possibly an adapter that I could purchase….
I have found that getting input from you fine folks that have been there and done that is invaluable….. many thanks in advance for any pictures, and or advice…..Cheers!
I’d like to ask for your help one more time here on my 27 Tudor restoration. Initially I was just going to do an engine refresh as the engine wasn’t overly worn…..was gonna just keep the engine and trans in the car…….had wanted to get rid of two piece valves, install a re-ground or new Stipe, cam, etc..
Unfortunately, I found the transmission doesn’t wanna cooperate with my plan…. so now I am afraid the engine has got to come out and I have to address some very loose triple gears.
Getting the engine out, it’s not gonna be a problem, where I would like some help is with engine stand…. If anyone has a picture or two of your model T engine on an engine stand, I would dearly like to see them to get some ideas of something I can fabricate or possibly an adapter that I could purchase….
I have found that getting input from you fine folks that have been there and done that is invaluable….. many thanks in advance for any pictures, and or advice…..Cheers!
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- First Name: Trent
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Re: Engine Stand help
My personal favorite is the KR Wilson engine stand on a roller base.
The advantages I see in his stand is that there is very little flex of the stand with the motor on it. More modern stands made from welded square tubing always have some movement when holding a heavy Model T motor assembly.
Another advantage is the motor can be rotated to almost any position, making it pretty easy to,work on different parts during assembly/disassembly.
On the roller base, it is pretty easy for me to move the stand with the engine mounted around my shop.
Of course the KR Wilson stands are not cheap or easy to come by, a definite disadvantage.
Respectfully Submitted,
Trent Boggess
The advantages I see in his stand is that there is very little flex of the stand with the motor on it. More modern stands made from welded square tubing always have some movement when holding a heavy Model T motor assembly.
Another advantage is the motor can be rotated to almost any position, making it pretty easy to,work on different parts during assembly/disassembly.
On the roller base, it is pretty easy for me to move the stand with the engine mounted around my shop.
Of course the KR Wilson stands are not cheap or easy to come by, a definite disadvantage.
Respectfully Submitted,
Trent Boggess
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Re: Engine Stand help
There is no bracing in the rear around the transmission other than on the bottom. Wheels make it easy to move around if you don;'t have a large work area
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Re: Engine Stand help
Here is a picture of an engine on my stand. The stand I built in high school as a shop class project. The plate is the one that the vendors sell.
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Re: Engine Stand help
The engine stand I bought from Harbor Freight tools works fine for me. More than good enough for a T engine. It’s reasonably priced and well worth it. Also get you the engine mount adapter plate that Lang’s sells. It works with any modern engine stand that adapts it to hold a T engine.
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- First Name: craig
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Re: Engine Stand help
Hi Edwin,
This is what I came up with from a $25 swapmeet find some flat iron & some bolts. The flat slots make it eazy to from engine to engine & trans
to keep it balanced. It is tight geting to the main bolts. I also made a fixture to hold a rear end in the stand with 2 exhaust clamps.
Craig.
This is what I came up with from a $25 swapmeet find some flat iron & some bolts. The flat slots make it eazy to from engine to engine & trans
to keep it balanced. It is tight geting to the main bolts. I also made a fixture to hold a rear end in the stand with 2 exhaust clamps.
Craig.
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Re: Engine Stand help
If I did not have a stand like Trent, I'd use a standard engine stand with this adapter: https://www.modeltford.com/item/6005-ADP.aspx it is the gold standard of adapters...
this plate that most folks buy, that bolts onto a stand is OK but not the greatest unless $$ are a concern, and I do not discount that being a factor for many folks
this plate that most folks buy, that bolts onto a stand is OK but not the greatest unless $$ are a concern, and I do not discount that being a factor for many folks
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Re: Engine Stand help
With a tendency to overcomplicate, I made my adapter adjustable to put the center of gravity at #4 with transmission on and between #2 and #3 with it off. Like most other T adapters, it has two ⅜" pegs at the bottom and two bolts at the water inlet.
The inevitable often happens.
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Re: Engine Stand help
Note the better engine stands are 4-wheel, recommended.
Have used the cheap tri-pod 3-wheel stands with the vendor adapter plate for the block, but this style is rather un-stable, so use real caution!
Have used the cheap tri-pod 3-wheel stands with the vendor adapter plate for the block, but this style is rather un-stable, so use real caution!
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- First Name: Edwin
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Re: Engine Stand help
Thanks all….. I now I have some ideas for fabricating a mount for my stand!
Cheers!
Cheers!
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Re: Engine Stand help
Engine stand adarter for rear ends.
Craig.