A look at an original tool bag and tools
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A look at an original tool bag and tools
I ran across this original tool bag in a friends garage. It has the correct tools, but I can't say with any certainty that these tools were always together. The bag is made of 2 pieces of model T top material. I think it's in pretty good shape for carrying all those tools for 100+ years.
The new bag also pictured in an excellent reproduction by Larry Smith.
The new bag also pictured in an excellent reproduction by Larry Smith.
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Re: A look at an original tool bag and tools
The roll has likely carried those tools longer than 100 years. The spark plug wrench with the closed socket end is mid teens. The later T1917 band adjusting wrench had the diamond shape. This one a second iteration of that tool the first one being much chunkier.
This all depends on the kit not being an assembled collection of course.
Allan from down under.
This all depends on the kit not being an assembled collection of course.
Allan from down under.
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Re: A look at an original tool bag and tools
That is great, thanks for posting.
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Re: A look at an original tool bag and tools
What is interesting is this information hasn't been posted before. I made the new tool bag posted from an original print I found at the archives. I need to know what years this was used. Most of the tool roll, tool bag information available is not accurate in my opinion. The original tool bag Kim posted is the only example I've seen.
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I researched the tool rolls in some detail years ago. Generally speaking, the roll with individual pockets was used until 1922. For 1923 they changed to an end loading pouchwith a short strap and buckle. In 1926 the design changed to the envelope style. All were made from top scrap per the blueprints.
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The above information raises the questions: Is the style Kim posted. and Larry made, the original iteration of the "envelope" style? Or was that 26-27 Model T style similar to the Model A pouch that had snaps? If so, where does this one fit into the scheme of thins?
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Re: A look at an original tool bag and tools
Randy,
That is not a Ford tool bag.
That is not a Ford tool bag.
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Re: A look at an original tool bag and tools
I have a NOS Ford tool bag that is the same as pictured above, but is made of Ford top material. I suspect the photo above is original, but that day they decided to make the bags out of the top boot and gypsy curtain material used in 1927?
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Re: A look at an original tool bag and tools
cwlittle wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 11:03 amThe above information raises the questions: Is the style Kim posted. and Larry made, the original iteration of the "envelope" style? Or was that 26-27 Model T style similar to the Model A pouch that had snaps? If so, where does this one fit into the scheme of thins?
Believe this info below is mostly correct, but haven't personally examined drawings at the Benson Ford to confirm.
1926-27 tool bag, top material with Common Sense fastener. If two fasteners, then likely Model A, as this bag style continued.
1923 to 1925 sleeve style tool bag, 6" x 15", the open end is tied shut with strap and buckle.
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Re: A look at an original tool bag and tools
As I mentioned previously, I have a NOS 25-27 tool bag I bought from Don Lang years ago. My assumption is it was used until 1927. Why? That style was introduced to hold the new long jack handle the came along in 1925, That jack handle also has a spoon end on it, so they were able to remove one of the short tire irons.
As far as the previous photo posted by Kim. I made the new reproduction bag several years ago from a print I found at the Benson Ford. It is exact in every way to the original, which I now own, that Kim posted.
As far as the previous photo posted by Kim. I made the new reproduction bag several years ago from a print I found at the Benson Ford. It is exact in every way to the original, which I now own, that Kim posted.