Transmission Band Substitution?

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Transmission Band Substitution?

Post by mortier » Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:59 am

(I have a 1915 T)

Can the earlier transmission bands be replaced by the later 2-part bands?

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Re: Transmission Band Substitution?

Post by Mark Gregush » Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:10 am

Should be able to use the button type. I have run into issues with the tab type even on later cars. If the hogs head is aluminum, I would strongly suggest not cutting the low band shaft which of course defeats the advantage of quick-change bands. It has been suggested by several people, that long shaft really helps support everything.
I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas! :shock:

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Re: Transmission Band Substitution?

Post by mortier » Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:23 am

I got these wood-lined bands from Mr. Guinn years ago, and wondered if they might fit my 1915 transmission.
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Re: Transmission Band Substitution?

Post by speedytinc » Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:29 am

Yes, but....
You will probably need to remove some material on the lower side of the casting the pedal shaft sits in for reverse & brake. Primarily the brake.
Not enough clearance for the later band ear attaching stuff. If you have the HH off, make the modification. Makes things easier.
You may be able to do some minor grinding on the band ear. The removable ear is supposed to be to the left.
I have seen bands mounted with the ear on the right, but that way doesn't safely capture the removable ear.
I have always modified the bands or HH as needed.

Another option (if you are a well seasoned T driver) would be to install Kevlar bands. Kevlar lasts nearly forever, if operated correctly.
Operated incorrectly, serious drum destruction. Risk/reward.
Kevlar bands must be installed with the HH off, not thru the inspection cover.

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