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Rod
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Sure Stop Brakes

Post by Rod » Sat May 04, 2024 5:45 am

I wanted to share a recent install on my 1913 Touring. I had to drill a second set of holes in the master cylinder bracket to get the cylinder level. I used the Harbor Freight bleed tool to purge the air from the system.
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Re: Sure Stop Brakes

Post by John.Zibell » Sat May 04, 2024 8:19 am

I did notice that the master doesn't fit level with the standard holes. I just mounted it that way as it will give more clearance from the floor boards. I'm accustomed to motorcycles, and the front master cylinder is only level when the handle bars are full lock left. So long as the fluid level doesn't drop below the piston hole, it will be fine.
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Re: Sure Stop Brakes

Post by Mike Lebsack-Iowa » Sat May 04, 2024 8:34 am

Keep in mind that your model T
Will not always be driven on level ground. They lean up and down and right and left. No problem with the master cylinder. Drive and enjoy the ride.


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Re: Sure Stop Brakes

Post by ThreePedalTapDancer » Sat May 04, 2024 1:45 pm

I hid my brake fluid reservoir under the front floorboard.
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Re: Sure Stop Brakes

Post by Oldav8tor » Sun May 05, 2024 11:26 am

Mine is mounted under the front seat.
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Re: Sure Stop Brakes

Post by speedytinc » Sun May 05, 2024 1:48 pm

I could NEVER consider doing this to a 13.
Aside from the visuals, I would be concerned every time I laid into the brakes that those spindley wood fellow wheels would fail.
Maybe its not a concern with treadless tires that are going to slide. :?: :?: :?: If the tires are going to slip, why wouldnt stock brakes work adequately? Scratchin my head on this one.


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Re: Sure Stop Brakes

Post by SurfCityGene » Sun May 05, 2024 2:03 pm

I Have to agree with Ed, Tim and Johnny.. I would Never mount that reservoir out on the visible fire wall of such a beautiful early car! There is lots of room under the floorboards where it can be out of sight. I guess if you have a disy showing there too it's ok. LOL

Johnny does have a point especially if your spokes are a bit marginal condition BUT I don't see the big ugly disc brakes putting any more torque on them than a good trans or outside drum brake. A good properly T brake will slide the rear in a panic stop.

I know you will enjoy your new brakes so now get out there and drive!
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Re: Sure Stop Brakes

Post by Oldav8tor » Sun May 05, 2024 4:23 pm

I agree with what Gene said - Also, if your wheel spokes are bad, any amount of braking is bad. I have many thousands of miles on disc brakes and think I only locked them up once....with no ill effect. The main advantage I see is that the disc brakes are an entirely separate braking system. They don't put strain on the drive train or overheat the internal brake drum. Discs also work better than the tranny brake and when used properly, are much more effective. I don't care what they look like.... I tour with my T so safety is #1.
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