One bushing in brake drum???
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One bushing in brake drum???
Does anyone have a copy of Service Bulletins where it has to only install one bushing in brake drum. I am away from my Bulletins and someone ask me about that. Think it was late 25. Can you please post it here? Thanks Dan
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Re: One bushing in brake drum???
November of 1925 - paragraph 119.
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Re: One bushing in brake drum???
I disagree with omitting that 2nd bushing.
That puts all the load/weight of the drum pack on the smallest & fastest wearing bushing.
Ford omitted this in late production. To save 1/2 cent per unit? Why the change after 13 or 14 million units?
If you have rebuilt the transmission correctly, alignment wont be an issue.
That puts all the load/weight of the drum pack on the smallest & fastest wearing bushing.
Ford omitted this in late production. To save 1/2 cent per unit? Why the change after 13 or 14 million units?
If you have rebuilt the transmission correctly, alignment wont be an issue.
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Re: One bushing in brake drum???
Thanks Steve, I’ll look it up when I get home.
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Re: One bushing in brake drum???
I agree with you, John but its worth pointing out that the 26-7 style driving plate is captured inside the brake drum and is way more secure than the earlier version where there is always a degree of slop in the lip that secures the driving plate to the brake drum, making the second bushing a necessity to hold alignment.
I have heard of rebuilders omitting the middle bushings thinking its not necessary even in pre 26 transmissions because Ford omitted it in late 25. In my thinking that is a big mistake.
BTW its pretty easy and inexpensive to make a driving plate alighment reamer pattered after the KRWilson reamer that indexes off the two brake drum bushings. Ive made a couple.
I have heard of rebuilders omitting the middle bushings thinking its not necessary even in pre 26 transmissions because Ford omitted it in late 25. In my thinking that is a big mistake.
BTW its pretty easy and inexpensive to make a driving plate alighment reamer pattered after the KRWilson reamer that indexes off the two brake drum bushings. Ive made a couple.
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Re: One bushing in brake drum???
After they omitted the rear bushing I’m pretty sure that a matter of months later they began installing it again… It’s not good engineering to leave it out. The driven gear shaft needs that extra support.
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Re: One bushing in brake drum???
Can you verify your assumption, Adam ?
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Re: One bushing in brake drum???
I too have seen late original drums with one bushing installed .
However I've always installed two .
Makes more sense to have two installed rather than only one with the amount of load on main shaft, two share the load.
My high school drafting teacher told us; "Engineer may design it but takes a machinist to make it work".
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However I've always installed two .
Makes more sense to have two installed rather than only one with the amount of load on main shaft, two share the load.
My high school drafting teacher told us; "Engineer may design it but takes a machinist to make it work".
www.jandm-machine.com
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Re: One bushing in brake drum???
Give them what they want, in place of what they ask for.J and M Machine wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 8:55 amMy high school drafting teacher told us; "Engineer may design it but takes a machinist to make it work".
