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Black Ice.

Post by Dollisdad » Sun Jun 09, 2024 11:42 pm

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Re: Black Ice.

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Re: Black Ice.

Post by John kuehn » Mon Jun 10, 2024 9:09 am

Those are some very neat photos! The number 7 from the top is a 1965 photo and I noticed it from the drivers more modern cap and the license plate.
And what really brought things to reality is that photo was takeni almost 60 years ago! I was 17 at the time and was just starting to learn about the 24 Coupe I inherited from my Grandfather. Boy how time flies and it shows the longevity of Henry’s Model T! Thanks for the memories.


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Re: Black Ice.

Post by Wayne Sheldon » Mon Jun 10, 2024 7:10 pm

Number one looks like a really nasty upset! I hope the occupants were thrown clear.
The car appears to be a 1917 to mid 1919, but could possibly be a bit later? The curve of the front fender suggests 1917 or later, while the over-axle wishbone was generally discontinued in mid 1919. Many years ago, there were a few very original 1920/'21 Ts with over-axle wishbones thought to be from the factory. Most of them were "corrected" for safety reasons.

The headlamps on that firetruck are odd, and a bit large. Were they some other kind of headlamps used in the restoration? Maybe, just maybe, they might have been the very early 1915 model/style year headlamps used only on the early couplets and center-door sedans? The detail in the photo is too grainy for me to tell for sure.


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Re: Black Ice.

Post by John kuehn » Mon Jun 10, 2024 7:25 pm

Are those sealed beams on the 7th photo?

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Re: Black Ice.

Post by Michael Peternell » Mon Jun 10, 2024 7:37 pm

Judging from the license plate, I'd say absolutely.


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Re: Black Ice.

Post by Wayne Sheldon » Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:25 am

John kuehn wrote:
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Are those sealed beams on the 7th photo?

Personally, I doubt that they are sealed beams. They to me appear to be too large for any standard sealed beam headlamps, and I do not see any sign of the typical adapter rims/bezels.
But I could be wrong?


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Re: Black Ice.

Post by Wayne Sheldon » Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:42 am

The last photo, of the model N Ford, looks rather odd. I suspect it may have been an "artist enhanced" photo from an advertising department? Actual photographs were difficult to print in many of the common mediums of the day. Many real photo post cards were of course an actual photo process on the picture side, with common printing on the heavy paper side. Some RPPCs are also cheaper cheaper block printings. Those are usually easy to spot by the poor quality of the picture.
Newspapers and most common magazines had to intermix type setting, printer's blocks, and any of several types of enhanced pictures. Many of the photographs had to be enhanced by artist's hands to clean up contrast and details.
Notice also that the car's step plate appears to be missing? Perhaps the artist was not aware that the dark spot on the road was supposed to be part of the car?


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Re: Black Ice.

Post by MichaelPawelek » Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:09 pm

Does the Model T in photo 7 need a bit of front end alignment?


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Re: Black Ice.

Post by Wayne Sheldon » Tue Jun 11, 2024 5:21 pm

MichaelPawelek wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:09 pm
Does the Model T in photo 7 need a bit of front end alignment?

I suspect it is a photo of a photo. With a camera held close but at a slight angle can create significant distortion of the image. Seen it many times.

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