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Gas Line Packing Felt

Post by Original Smith » Thu Nov 14, 2024 6:29 pm

On my newest restoration, a 1913 Runabout, I decided to do something really authentic, and that is to use the felt packing at the elbow. Initially, I used one of the felt packing's I bought from Langs, and really had to bear down on it to keep it from leaking. This time, I had to do some carburetor work, and reinstalled the fuel line again, and it leaks badly with the packing nut extremely tight. Is this common? I just talked to a friend who is new to the hobby, and he used a felt packing on his car with no issues. I feel like a jerk posting such a simple question, but shit happens!


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Re: Gas Line Packing Felt

Post by speedytinc » Thu Nov 14, 2024 6:43 pm

There are differences in threads with repoped nuts & original elbows. I dont know if this is your problem with a sloppy thread binding. I suspect not & that both your parts are original Ford.
I use the felts on my stuff & customers. What I found is that one felt compresses down to where you can run out of threads. After the first compression, I add another 1/2 felt to give room for adequate compression before running out of threads. No problems with leaking.


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Re: Gas Line Packing Felt

Post by DHort » Thu Nov 14, 2024 7:49 pm

Did you soak the felt with soapy sludge?


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Re: Gas Line Packing Felt

Post by speedytinc » Thu Nov 14, 2024 8:06 pm

I have always installed dry.

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Re: Gas Line Packing Felt

Post by RajoRacer » Thu Nov 14, 2024 9:27 pm

I oil soak mine prior to install.


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Re: Gas Line Packing Felt

Post by Jones in Aiken SC » Thu Nov 14, 2024 10:48 pm

Is it blasphemy to use the neoprene packing that Lang's sells versus the felt seals? I have used the neoprene packing and find it works well.

https://www.modeltford.com/item/2913N.aspx


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Re: Gas Line Packing Felt

Post by speedytinc » Fri Nov 15, 2024 12:07 am

I have nothing against the neoprene packing the venders sell or cutting a piece of hose.
I have so many felts left over from carb rebuilds, I use them.

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Re: Gas Line Packing Felt

Post by JohnH » Fri Nov 15, 2024 12:28 am

I use a short piece of 1/4" neoprene fuel hose as packing. It's been leak free for 22yrs. I just didn't have any luck with the felt.

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Re: Gas Line Packing Felt

Post by Charlie B in N.J. » Fri Nov 15, 2024 6:48 am

Sometimes, especially when it doesn’t show, you’ve got to use what works. Fuel line for me too.
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Re: Gas Line Packing Felt

Post by RecklessKelly » Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:24 am

The neoprene packings worked perfect for me. Another win for the T.


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Re: Gas Line Packing Felt

Post by hull 433 » Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:56 am

I use felt packing from Lang’s, never had a problem. Installed dry, works perfectly.


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Re: Gas Line Packing Felt

Post by TXGOAT2 » Sat Nov 16, 2024 11:29 am

Ivory soap and double felts ought to work, or maybe beeswax. But I'd want a leak tight joint, no matter what it took. The risk of spoiled paint or a burned up car must be avoided. Fumes in a garage are obnoxious, even if they don't reach explosive concentration.


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Re: Gas Line Packing Felt

Post by Moxie26 » Sat Nov 16, 2024 11:36 am

I prefer the neoprene seals


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Re: Gas Line Packing Felt

Post by Original Smith » Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:07 pm

When I finished restoring the car, I wanted to try the felt. It worked quite a while, but started giving me trouble. I put the full length that I got from Langs, but yesterday had to add 1/4". So far no leaks, but haven't tried running the car yet. I installed all of them dry. It's been sitting all night with the gas turned on, and no leaks.


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Re: Gas Line Packing Felt

Post by Original Smith » Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:07 pm

When I finished restoring the car, I wanted to try the felt. It worked quite a while, but started giving me trouble. I put the full length that I got from Langs, but yesterday had to add 1/4". So far no leaks, but haven't tried running the car yet. I installed all of them dry. It's been sitting all night with the gas turned on, and no leaks.


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Re: Gas Line Packing Felt

Post by RVA23T » Tue Nov 19, 2024 3:01 pm

I use the oil, gasoline and heat resistant "Ez Turn Lubricant" with the felt.
Some in the back of nut, try to leave some on the outer side if the felt. Using the EZ Lube the same mannor recommended to pre RTV the felt for the hogshead.
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Re: Gas Line Packing Felt

Post by Original Smith » Wed Nov 20, 2024 12:08 pm

I recall from my early days when you could find NOS steel packing nuts everywhere, I recall the felt packing already being in the nut. It would be interesting to know how they got it in there, and if they soaked it with anything.


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Re: Gas Line Packing Felt

Post by Original Smith » Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:34 pm

I have the problem solved, at least for now. I added a shortened piece of round felt packing, 3/8" and no leaks.

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