Disc brake pedal
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Disc brake pedal
I have driven Ts with new disc brakes and find it very uncomfortable that you barely move the brake pedal for the brakes to engage. Has anyone ever modified the pedal or use a different master cylinder to obtain more brake pedal travel? I know you don't want to activate the disc and the Ford brakes at the same time, but a little more pedal action would feel better to me.
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Re: Disc brake pedal
Hi Tom,
Changing the master cylinder size may work. A smaller M/S will move less volume but once the travel of the pads is taken up then there
would be more pressure on the caliper there for making it easier to lock up the brakes unintentionally. Going with a larger M/S would take
up the travel faster but would give you less pressure to apply the brakes. ( maybe a spongy petal) I'm sure that a lot of planning has gone into
the sizing of the components in these systems. How ever changing the fulcrum ( length of the lever pushing on the M/S ) may give you the
feel you are looking for. I have not personally driven a T with Sure-Stop brakes. But I have driven a system that was very much like them
designed by a gentleman some twenty+ years ago that used parts out of a scrap yard that felt great.
Craig.
Changing the master cylinder size may work. A smaller M/S will move less volume but once the travel of the pads is taken up then there
would be more pressure on the caliper there for making it easier to lock up the brakes unintentionally. Going with a larger M/S would take
up the travel faster but would give you less pressure to apply the brakes. ( maybe a spongy petal) I'm sure that a lot of planning has gone into
the sizing of the components in these systems. How ever changing the fulcrum ( length of the lever pushing on the M/S ) may give you the
feel you are looking for. I have not personally driven a T with Sure-Stop brakes. But I have driven a system that was very much like them
designed by a gentleman some twenty+ years ago that used parts out of a scrap yard that felt great.
Craig.
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Re: Disc brake pedal
A smaller bore cylinder will give more pedal travel and require less foot pressure for a given amount of braking. It would make brake modulation easier.
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Re: Disc brake pedal
I have disc brakes - the travel on the pedal seems normal to me. Perhaps you can get what you want thru adjustment.
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Re: Disc brake pedal
Changing the pivot points or the pedal arm length will also change the travel and "feel".
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Re: Disc brake pedal
I thought that the travel distance of the push rod on the master cylinder was adjustable
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Re: Disc brake pedal
The link itself is adjustable, but all that does is adjust the pedal height. It has no effect on the pedal 'feel'.
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Re: Disc brake pedal
Ditto Allan.
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Re: Disc brake pedal
Thank all !
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