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- First Name: Wayne
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Re: T pics
Several nice pictures of speedsters here!
Photo number seven is of Edsel Ford and his speedster, built in the late brass era. Edsel played around for awhile with that car. I have seen several variations of the car, changes of the fenders, even without fenders. Other photos show variations/changes made to the body and windshield, and different radiators. Not much is really known about the car, other than Edsel with the help from Ford's experimental department played around with the car for a few years. It has been speculated, that this car might for at least some of the time, have had one of Edsel's six cylinder model T engines in it?
Photos number one and two are of a great looking 1920ish iteration. I really like that one.
Photo number sixteen is a fine looking speedster of the "gentlemen's roadster" variety. It may be earlier than you may think. Notice the "teacup" pan indicating a 1914 or earlier pan. Some sort of electric headlamps. Fenders, running boards, and side aprons appear to all be custom made. Most likely a brass radiator hiding under that shell.
Number five isn't really my "thing". However, a lot of people love these. Not really a "speedster" in the common sense, it more resembles the "go-jobs" of the late 1920s and 1930s that eventually became known as "hotrods". In the long line of "hobby-builds" as a subset of automotive history? That is an important step.
Photo number seven is of Edsel Ford and his speedster, built in the late brass era. Edsel played around for awhile with that car. I have seen several variations of the car, changes of the fenders, even without fenders. Other photos show variations/changes made to the body and windshield, and different radiators. Not much is really known about the car, other than Edsel with the help from Ford's experimental department played around with the car for a few years. It has been speculated, that this car might for at least some of the time, have had one of Edsel's six cylinder model T engines in it?
Photos number one and two are of a great looking 1920ish iteration. I really like that one.
Photo number sixteen is a fine looking speedster of the "gentlemen's roadster" variety. It may be earlier than you may think. Notice the "teacup" pan indicating a 1914 or earlier pan. Some sort of electric headlamps. Fenders, running boards, and side aprons appear to all be custom made. Most likely a brass radiator hiding under that shell.
Number five isn't really my "thing". However, a lot of people love these. Not really a "speedster" in the common sense, it more resembles the "go-jobs" of the late 1920s and 1930s that eventually became known as "hotrods". In the long line of "hobby-builds" as a subset of automotive history? That is an important step.
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Re: T pics
Tom,
Thank you for posting!
Wayne,
I think this speedster holds one of the Ford Special racer motors. A side view (two versions of a similar speedster as i recall), there is no coilbox, a good clue that it may be a “special” motor, which used a Bosch 2 spark racing magneto instead of the standard low tension flywheel mag.
Below it is an R or S runs out photo.
Cheers,
Rob
Thank you for posting!
Wayne,
I think this speedster holds one of the Ford Special racer motors. A side view (two versions of a similar speedster as i recall), there is no coilbox, a good clue that it may be a “special” motor, which used a Bosch 2 spark racing magneto instead of the standard low tension flywheel mag.
Below it is an R or S runs out photo.
Cheers,
Rob
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Re: T pics
Thank you Rob!
The angle of the photo of the R/S appears to me to show the wider rounder rear deck rather than the pointier one. But I have been wrong about that before with other photos. The car also appears to me to have the larger 30 inch wheels. I don't have my book handy. Would those details nail down the model? My guess would be a model R if I recall correctly. I know the R and S are tough to tell apart in photos without certain specific details not being seen.
The angle of the photo of the R/S appears to me to show the wider rounder rear deck rather than the pointier one. But I have been wrong about that before with other photos. The car also appears to me to have the larger 30 inch wheels. I don't have my book handy. Would those details nail down the model? My guess would be a model R if I recall correctly. I know the R and S are tough to tell apart in photos without certain specific details not being seen.
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Re: T pics
I enjoy seeing the N/R/S cars in vintage photos as I so seldom get to see them in real life.
The R/S Ford appears to have a 1911 Illinois license plate. How long do you suppose the pre-T cars were on the road before they were considered obsolete?
The R/S Ford appears to have a 1911 Illinois license plate. How long do you suppose the pre-T cars were on the road before they were considered obsolete?
Wayne Jorgensen, Batavia, IL
1915 Runabout
1918 Runabout
1915 Runabout
1918 Runabout