International shipping to be more costly

[Oldav8tor]

Amongst the flurry of tariff announcements that will surely effect the cost of many of the goods we use, one slipped by that will effect any of us planning to buy Blockley tires in the near future. I've helped a few folks order tires and by being careful to keep the order total below $800 they would come thru without having to pay duty fees or other hassle. Effective May 2, Trump has eliminated this loophole by executive order so you will pay duties regardless of the cost. This action was primarily aimed at Temu and other Chinese sellers but it will effect anything coming into the country.

If you've been on the fence about ordering Blockleys I would suggest you make up your mind and if ordering, do not delay. Sure, they will still be available but the price is going up.

[DHort]

Thanks to the idiot that came up with tariffs I guess my next pair will be Universals. Wont match the Blockly's, but how many people in the 20's have 4 matching tires? Maybe that means my car will be more authentic with mismatched tires.

[TXGOAT2]

Buy now, if you need tires. Perhaps, down the road, your next set of tires will be genuine, USA-made tires, like your car originally had.

[JTT3]

Well Dave, I’m trying to play nice in the sand box but since you seemed curious, in the USA that would have been George Washington with the Tariff Act of 1789. Besides being an “idiot”, your words, he was a surveyor, a commanding officer for two different countries, early member of the continental Congress, 1st President of the United States called the Father of our country, gentleman farmer amongst other things. I’m almost certain if he lived long enough he would have bought a Ford Model T as it was made in America. If you’re Prudent you could order & pay for them now & avoid the possible major increase. Best John

[Allan]

And those made in USA tyres will be cheaper too because they will be tariff free

Any one like to buy a cheap bridge? I can offer a really good price on one in Sydney. You may even be able to rent it out for New Years fireworks displays.

Allan from down under

[ModelTMitch]

Australia used to be tax free on goods under AUD$1000, which worked great until the government caught on to all the undeclared $999 imports! Our government ruined everything once again, and now there's 10% GST on ALL goods coming into the country — including gifts. Yes, you have to pay 10% extra on top of the declared value of grandma's Christmas present, to the useless Australian government. Ok. Rant over.

[TXGOAT2]

Are any tires manufactured in Australia? Does Australia produce any petroleum?

[Oldav8tor]

A little history on avoiding import duties..... I was helping a friend order a set of Blockley Tires and tubes so we split the order to stay under the $800 cap. I thought I was smart, waited until the first order shipped before putting in the second. Somehow when they arrived in the US they got combined and that ended up in a few emails, phone calls and about $70 additional in import fees. Next time I made such an order I waited until the first was out for delivery before placing the second and avoided the hassle and fees. For someone making a small, personal purchase it was great!

It would be nice if affordable Model T tires were made in the USA. Unfortunately, we are such a small market that the tiremakers have little interest in us. I suspect all we will see is higher prices (Vietnam's tariff will be 46%) or lack of availability. T-drivers were mentioned - they are currently out of stock and not expected to be available until mid-late July.....if then.

[JTT3]

Tim I’m hoping, if the US & UK don’t come up with an agreement, that it will be based on the location of the company that supply’s them for retail sales. If not and it’s an aggregate of the 2 tariffs that would be a different story. I think it’s too early to tell right now. I’m sure we will get an indication soon from the vendors pricing. Pat’s post would be a positive event but I suspect even then, because of volume of demand, prices will increase anyway. I’m curious though because I’m more interested in tires for model T’s & not thinking about all production for classic tires. I wonder how many classic tires are made outside of the USA, the number of factories, factory location of where they are made & what the yearly volume is in total. I just don’t have enough information to form any legitimate guess. What I do know is that I placed and order & paid for 5 tires. The price paid was what was advertised on line. From this vendor shipping was free on purchases above $100. Best John

[Jones in Aiken SC]

Corporations being what they are, you can bet prices will go up. Prices will go up because they now have an "excuse" and can point to increased tariffs, even if the tariff didn't apply to the item you are buying. Never miss an opportunity to make a buck during times of chaos! But who can blame them as that is why they are in business.

[Steve Jelf]

I thought I was smart, waited until the first order shipped before putting in the second. Somehow when they arrived in the US they got combined...

Yep, after reading of that happening I waited until the first pair of tires arrived before I ordered the others. In both cases I emailed the order early Tuesday and the tires were on my front porch Thursday afternoon.

[Dan Hatch]

Question for yous guys that ordered Brockleys. Do they take PayPal or just your CC? Thanks Dan

[DHort]

Dan

I know I used a CC. I never use Paypal
Just checked and Velle and Venmo do not work either.

[Oldav8tor]

I'm pretty sure that Blockley required me to use paypal. However, I believe my paypal linked to a credit card.

You are correct - we'll have to see how things shake out. I suspect some countries will dig their heels in while others will cave. Nonetheless, I suspect higher prices are in our future.

[TXGOAT2]

I recently bought a set of Firestone 7.00 X 16 WWW tires. They are marked "Made In USA". There are no contrary markings. I'm not sure about the tubes. My (older) Lucas tires are marked "Made In Vietnam".

[JohnM]

When I bought my Blockleys, I used my credit card. The transaction appeared to go through PayPal, but I was not required to create an account.

[George House]

I heard that ‘Nam and Panama are two of the earliest nations wanting to “zero out” the previous tariffs they charged us. If conspicuous others fall into line, Blockleys might become cheaper.

[TRDxB2]

Tariff's normally apply to the "country of origin" of the product not where the it was shipped from. Obviously closing a loop hole to avoid a tariff.
Don't confuse "Manufacturer" with "Country of Origin".
For example: General Motors (GM): Despite being a US-based company, GM imports a significant number of vehicles from Mexico and Canada, including popular trucks and SUVs like the Chevrolet Silverado, GMC Sierra, and some mid-sized SUVs. They also build two of their new EVs in Mexico.

So if Blockley tires are made in Vietnam, like most all other tires, then the Tariff applies to Vietnam not the UK.

PayPal fees to you using a credit card
Sending Money for Goods and Services:
PayPal charges a 2.9% transaction fee, plus a fixed fee of 30 cents for US currency when sending money using a credit card.
For international payments, the domestic charge applies, plus an international supplement of 5% of the transaction amount, capped at 4.99 USD

I believe you can avoid he Credit Card fees by using a PayPal balance. I have a Debt Card account with my bank that allows me to transfer many to/from that account to PayPal instantaneously rather then from a checking account (3 days)

Regardless of the method
Currency Conversion Fee:
PayPal charges a fee for converting the foreign currency to your local currency. This fee, also called a "currency conversion spread," can range from 3% to 4% of the transaction amount

[Steve Jelf]

I don't know if it's pertinent now, but when I bought Blockleys in 2003 I paid with a Discover card. No PayPal or other odd method required.

[WayneJ]

I understand the previous Veitnam tariff was 1%, before it was zeroed out.

[George House]

The chart is see POTUS Holding up says “Tariffs Charged to the United States” reveals Viet Nam charging 90% tariff causing our administration to impose a 46% tariff on them.
…FWIW

[Mark Nunn]

The chart is see POTUS Holding up says “Tariffs Charged to the United States” reveals Viet Nam charging 90% tariff causing our administration to impose a 46% tariff on them.
…FWIW

George, Vietnam is not charging a 90% tariff on US goods. The chart says "tariff" but the value is a ratio of the trade deficit and import value. The chart is a lie. Google tariff calculation for an explanation.

[big2bird]

The chart is a lie. Google tariff calculation for an explanation.

Imagine that.

[TRDxB2]

The chart is see POTUS Holding up says “Tariffs Charged to the United States” reveals Viet Nam charging 90% tariff causing our administration to impose a 46% tariff on them.
…FWIW

George, Vietnam is not charging a 90% tariff on US goods. The chart says "tariff" but the value is a ratio of the trade deficit and import value. The chart is a lie. Google tariff calculation for an explanation.

The chart is not a lie, it is being reference incorrectly. The heading clearly says "Tariffs Charged to the U.S.A. (Including Currency Manipulation and trade barriers)

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The method of calculation has also been posted for use by the media as

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"Tariffs Charged" is a monetary value and the calculation represents the imbalance in fees collected between the USA & the other country

The Reciprocal Tariff calculation appears complex but simply it is what is necessary to balance out the difference in fees collected

[JTT3]

Frank thank you for the information attached for others to see & understand the math used to calculate the proposed tariffs. There will always be folks that are reactionary in their statements even though they may not be affected personally initially short term. It’s no surprise that the “major” media & their sycophants are the muckrakers of our times trying to create as much turmoil has possible & amping up the populous. You don’t have to be a math major to understand we were reaching a precipice in our national debt that both major parties were involved in creating. We elected them with very little attention to what they really stood for nor held them accountable for their record. The debt & payments are unsustainable with disastrous consequences ahead. In my opinion we have become an immediate satisfaction faction that wants what they want now not understanding or caring about the long term cost. I’m retired & yes I’ve taken a hit in the short term. I’m not well heeled but do understand my investments. If you have the ability most everything in the stock market is on sale & the reality is you could recoup your losses plus a bunch if you carefully pick those bargain basement stocks now. To relate this to vintage cars if you want a ready to go Model T for example now’s the time to buy. Most likely you couldn’t restore a model T for what you could buy a nice restored one for now but that does spoil half the fun of learning & doing it yourself. I’m hoping this doesn’t offend anyone here because we actually are all in this together no matter where you plant your flag. Best John

[1912touring]

Well said John.

[George House]

Yes!.. thanks brotherJohn and Frank. Truth to Power

[mortier]

You may wish to research the $800 tariff rule change. Here is a quote from a piano parts dealer in Germany yesterday:

"We can still ship new bass strings tax and duty free due to the "de minimis" threshold... up to 800 USD everything is free.
Mr. Trump has only lifted this de minimis rule for China and Hong Kong .... means that we are not affected.
I would just like to point this out to you … "

Similarly, everything can change without warning. The original 25% import tariff from a couple weeks ago covered all imported (non-US made) automobiles. Earlier this week, a provision was added to keep vehicles over 25 years old at the former 2.5% duty. This could change again tomorrow!

Phil

[Bills Auto Works]

Yes!.. thanks brotherJohn and Frank. Truth to Power

Exactly, nice to read responses based on facts & common sense with NO emotion involved! Also nice to see (for the 1st time in a long time) our country NOT being taken advantage of by the rest of the world. All that is being done is a leveling the playing field or to our advantage which is the way it should be as the most lucrative market in the world.....Want to play in our sandbox, you have to abide by our rules.

God Bless
Bill
https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/thr ... ed.614419/

[Allan]

Australia has a huge trade deficit with the USA. We buy far more of your stuff than you do of ours. So whacking a staunch ally with this indiscriminate piece of madness is hardly fair. Why would we want to continue playing in that particular sandbox?

Allan from down under.

[big2bird]

Ask Rupert Murdoch.

[TXGOAT2]

8:43 PM CST:
Bulletin:
Reports indicate the the Earth continues to revolve on its axis....

[JTT3]

Good one LMAOROTF.

[Allan]

Who is Rubert Murdach? Do you mean that US citizen Rupert Murdoch? What is it we should be asking him?

Allan from down under.

[Bryant]

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[Henry K. Lee]

Just like a BIG WOW....., Australia charges the USA $100,000.00 per day for a port fee for our naval aircraft carriers, plus tug assisting fees, double the fuel cost (jet fuel, fresh water, sewage, etc). A port-of-call is a big bonus for sailors at sea. We charge our allies $10,000.00 and at cost fuel charge, with no tug assist fees. Talk to your government officials before judging others is a good start! I quit drinking the amber nectar (Foster's) when I found this out!

[TXGOAT2]

Given Australia's exposure to Xi's China, I'd think they'd be happy to have U.S. warships lurking in their ports.

[George House]

It was only a ploy Allan . A trap that only China fell into Henry Ford did something akin to President Trump’s planning in the early days of FoMoCo when he desired to have controlling stocks. He surreptitiously let it be known that he’d retire and let Edsel run the company. Major stockholders fell into the trap and sold because of their low opinion of Edsel. It worked !! Henry bought up their stock and continued running FoMoCo…After saving Australia’s bacon in the Coral Sea from 6-8 May 1942, we can’t limit Foster Lager now