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Craig E. Luton
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Please refresh my memory

Post by Craig E. Luton » Thu May 01, 2025 7:23 pm

When did the steerirng wheel nut change from low crown to high crown or visa - versa? Thank you


Wayne Sheldon
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Re: Please refresh my memory

Post by Wayne Sheldon » Fri May 02, 2025 3:34 am

I really don't know the answer? Personally, I have seen so very few original low crown steering wheel nuts? I am not even sure how close they are to the available reproductions.
I "think" they went from low crown brass to high crown brass around 1913? I "know" that the prevailing opinion forty or more years ago that all steering wheel nuts were brass through 1915. One could not attend one of Bill Harrah's Reno tours with a 1915 model T if the steering wheel nut would attract a magnet. However, as I have many times said on these forums, a lot of what people thought they knew forty or more years ago was flat-out WRONG!
They used to make reproduction high crown steering wheel nuts in the shape of the common later steel nuts. But I haven't seen many of those in recent decades. personally, I would like to have a couple high crown brass nuts for my 1915 and maybe the 1913.

For whatever it is worth? The angle of the photo does not clearly show the profile of the steering wheel nut? However, zooming into the photo, it looks to me like this 1914 interior photo might be the high crown style? Steel or brass is anybody's guess.
1914interior.jpg


Rich Bingham
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Re: Please refresh my memory

Post by Rich Bingham » Fri May 02, 2025 10:36 am

FWIW, I recently acquired an original 1914 steering column complete with steering wheel. It appears to have been removed from a car and laid by for a long time. It’s a “1914” column because of the bolt pattern of the column-to-dash flange, but I have been given to understand that may be a late ‘13-‘14 transition ? It has a low crown brass nut, quite different profile from the brass reproduction nuts I’ve seen.

To my bum eyesight, the car in the photo above seems to have a high crown nut . . .

(PS - Wayne, did you get my email of Apr. 28 ?) :D
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Re: Please refresh my memory

Post by DanTreace » Fri May 02, 2025 1:37 pm

The brass nuts were in use into 1912, then a cast iron painted nut used until end of production.

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Re: Please refresh my memory

Post by Wayne Sheldon » Fri May 02, 2025 6:47 pm

Rich Bingham wrote:
Fri May 02, 2025 10:36 am


(PS - Wayne, did you get my email of Apr. 28 ?) :D
I found it just yesterday. Was hoping to respond soon!
I have been having fits with yahoo lately, all their BS game playing the past half year has been disgusting. I opened my account and have had the same email address since the late 1990s. They promised me (anyone) free quality email for life! Frankly, they would not be the huge company they are today if not for the early successes with their early customers that opened doors for them to expand into. I should not have to play hide and seek with all their ridiculous and constant changes.
For some time now, I have been missing finding emails in a timely manner, and some I should have responded to got misplaced. My apologies to a couple others on this forum that also have sent me emails.


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Re: Please refresh my memory

Post by love2T's » Sun May 04, 2025 7:39 am

Wayne Sheldon wrote:
Fri May 02, 2025 6:47 pm
Rich Bingham wrote:
Fri May 02, 2025 10:36 am


(PS - Wayne, did you get my email of Apr. 28 ?) :D
I found it just yesterday. Was hoping to respond soon!
I have been having fits with yahoo lately, all their BS game playing the past half year has been disgusting. I opened my account and have had the same email address since the late 1990s. They promised me (anyone) free quality email for life! Frankly, they would not be the huge company they are today if not for the early successes with their early customers that opened doors for them to expand into. I should not have to play hide and seek with all their ridiculous and constant changes.
For some time now, I have been missing finding emails in a timely manner, and some I should have responded to got misplaced. My apologies to a couple others on this forum that also have sent me emails.
Sounds like Yahoo and the Pony Express a.k.a. USPS are related! Took almost 3 weeks for a check to arrive from little ol NY state for a brush order! Totally unacceptable. Takes 3-4 days now for "next city over" delivery! Might as well drive mail ourself!


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Re: Please refresh my memory

Post by Colin Mavins » Mon May 05, 2025 9:30 am

my 1912 touring has all its original parts and has a low profile nut my car is Canadian.

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