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Altair
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15 Touring

Post by Altair » Mon Sep 15, 2025 1:22 pm

I am working on a 15 touring and I have a question about the windshield frame. The swivel bolt on my frame has a round head with no slot and goes inward with a nut on the inside, others I have seen have the head of the bolt on the inside and a nut on the outside. I have two windshield frames and one swivel bolt has a slot for a flat screw driver also with the nut on the inside. What is correct?

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Re: 15 Touring

Post by KWTownsend » Mon Sep 15, 2025 1:28 pm

Round bolt with slot goes on the inside with springs. The nut goes on the outside along with the loop for top hook and cotter pin.

Sometimes windshield hinge parts get mis-matched.


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Re: 15 Touring

Post by Jerry VanOoteghem » Mon Sep 15, 2025 6:08 pm

Keith is definitely correct about the bolt/nut orientation, however, after snagging my hand on the castle nut and cotter pin too many times, I reversed it and put the nut on the inside.


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Re: 15 Touring

Post by Altair » Mon Sep 15, 2025 9:36 pm

Relooking at my parts one frame had the correct bolts however they were in backwards, the second frame had carriage bolts that were incorrect and in backwards plus the internal springs were missing. I have a spare pair of hinges with the correct bolts, one correct nut and one correct spring. One spring has been modified to fit however it does not. Thank you for the information I now know what I am looking for and how to assemble it.


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Altair
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Re: 15 Touring

Post by Altair » Tue Sep 16, 2025 11:48 am

Another question? I have two windshield frames, one with threaded screws attaching the hinge and the lamp assembly and the other with rivets attaching the lamp assembly and screws attaching the hinge. I was reviewing a 15 windshield frame for sale that had rivets attaching the lamp assembly and screws attaching the hinges, which one is correct for a 15?


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Re: 15 Touring

Post by Jerry VanOoteghem » Tue Sep 16, 2025 11:49 am

The riveted one is correct.


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Re: 15 Touring

Post by Wayne Sheldon » Tue Sep 16, 2025 6:33 pm

The 1915, 1916, and early 1917 windshield frames were all riveted to the brackets attaching the windshield frame to the cowl. These all had the even folding hinges. In the mid 1917 model year, the hinges and upper frame were changed so that when the upper glass is folded all the way back and down, the middle edge of the upper glass is raised to about two inches above the lower glass rather than being basically even with the lower glass as in the earlier ones.
For a short time in mid 1917 model year, the windshields used the even folding hinges, however were bolted to the cowl brackets as were all the later windshield frames.
These mid 1917 only windshields can sometimes be seen in era photographs.

1917rarewindshield.jpg

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