Band lining fun (and questions)

[Reno Speedster]

I am getting ready to line the bands for my 26 speedster. I have a number of bands to choose from and am cleaning them up to select the best. I have two of the wider brake bands, both with removable ends. Both look ok to me. I have done a little work with a brass hammer to get rid of some high spots around the rivet holes and they both look pretty round when wrapped around a spare brake drum. It’s hard to tell how round the actually are just holding them on the drum without the lining installed. One thing I noticed is that one band(the one one the outside in the photo) is significantly stiffer (harder to compress) than the other (the one on the inside of the photo. Both are ford drums. It seems like the stiffer one might have some advantages. Any thoughts?

Also. I have a pile of cotton band linings but they came in a parts pile I got from a friend. I have Kevlar bands I was planning to use but wonder if anyone can tell me if they are old ones or one of the new manufacturers? Take a look at the photos and let me know.

[RajoRacer]

The linings in the photo appear to be Montgomery Ward or similar type. They are also a bit on the thick side ! \

Some Ford steel bands HAVE raised bumps for the rivets - just so you know !

[Moxie26]

https://youtu.be/2uhM4DPE0Fc?si=af5-SZ_K2D4LvF_w. Youtube video and how to properly round out the metal bands before installation. It does show how to install the wood liners, but it's also valuable information on how to get the metal bands true so you could really mount any lining you want. Good luck, and enjoy your ride..

[Moxie26]

https://youtu.be/2uhM4DPE0Fc?si=af5-SZ_K2D4LvF_w. Youtube video and how to properly round out the metal bands before installation. It does show how to install the wood liners, but it's also valuable information on how to get the metal bands true so you could really mount any lining you want. Good luck, and enjoy your ride..

[Reno Speedster]

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Some Ford steel bands HAVE raised bumps for the rivets - just so you know !

The “bumps” were not regular (different sizes and not on all holes) and were on the inside, where they would cause the band to rub on the drum. They appeared to be the result of hammering the rivets in during the last band install. I wrapped the band around the drum and tapped them flush with a brass hammer.

I will look at the video on making the bands round.

[speedytinc]

You didnt post a pix of the kevlar bands you wanted evaluated.

[John kuehn]

The pictures of the cotton bands you posted are some really good cotton bands made by Montgomery Wards or Allstate. Good as original Scandinavia and long lasting. They are made with really tight weaving like Scandinavia which made for long lasting cotton bands. Of course Kevlar are the best long lasting ban nowdays but even the Kevlars aren’t woven as tight as the older cotton bands which gave them a long life for cotton. Kevlars last for many miles and as long as you own the car in most cases.

The cotton bands pictured look good and don’t look like they haven’t got on wet or dry rotted. Don’t throw them away.

[Reno Speedster]

They looked pretty good and came from a long time T man, now sadly gone. If there were some 26-27 sized brake bands in the bunch I would be tempted to use them. I don’t need to get the Kevlar identified. They came from Snyder’s and have all the instructions and parts.

[Allan]

I have never seen band linings like those in the photo. The outer surface does look tightly woven, tighter than usual. To weave like that through a band as thick as Ford trans bands I can't get my head a round. The multi colour edges are unique in my experience. Is that a cut edge? Are the bands layers of tightly woven material?

Allan from down under.

[Reno Speedster]

Here are a couple more detail shots of the band lining material. It is very tightly woven and about 3/16 thick. I have at least 7 of them. I might have more in the parts pile.

[John kuehn]

Here’s a 26-27 set I bought a few years ago like the ones pictured from a person in Virginia.
I don’t have a 26-27 T but I was thinking I could use the 2 narrow bands for one of my 3 earlier T’s. They were sold by Sears but I’m not sure who actually made them. Really well made too. Years ago I read on the forum that the weaving machines that the Scandinavia Co. used were sold when the company changed owners. Original Scandinavia’s were really tightly woven too. I can’t remember exactly what the details about the machines were but something like that. And yes the tight weave is really something to do by a machine.

[Allan]

I could not blow up the original photos enough to reveal characteristics shown in these later shots. I suspect the coloured thread at the sides is there to bind thinner layers of tightly woven material together This can be seen on the cut ends of the linings. Such dense construction may be more durable than any single weave cotton linings.
Single weave Kevlat linings are stll lokely to be more durable due to the nature of the material used.

Allan from down under.

[Reno Speedster]

I think we are hampered by the image size, which makes it hard to see clearly. I don’t see any indication that two bands have been stitched together in the flesh.