My car just died in the driveway

Discuss all things Model T related.
Forum rules
If you need help logging in, or have question about how something works, use the Support forum located here Support Forum
Complete set of Forum Rules Forum Rules

Topic author
DHort
Posts: 2826
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:30 pm
First Name: Dave
Last Name: Hjortnaes
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 24 Speedster, 20 touring
Location: Men Falls, WI

My car just died in the driveway

Post by DHort » Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:52 pm

Took my car for a ride. Oil, water, and gas are good. Pulled up to the garage to put it away. She quit on me. I tried to crank her and she was in gear. Makes no sense, right? No matter where the brake lever is, she is in gear. Pushed her into the garage and now I have to start tearing her apart. Good thing I have another car, so I can still enjoy the summer.

Now I have a project for the winter. Any thoughts?


Les Schubert
Posts: 1357
Joined: Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:47 pm
First Name: Les
Last Name: Schubert
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 27 roadster 13 touring
Location: Calgary

Re: My car just died in the driveway

Post by Les Schubert » Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:15 pm

If you push the left pedal half way down is it in neutral?
Something wrong with the clutch linkage. Quite possibly you will see the problem if you pull the inspection cover


Scott_Conger
Posts: 6523
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:18 am
First Name: Scott
Last Name: Conger
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1919
Location: not near anywhere, WY
Board Member Since: 2005

Re: My car just died in the driveway

Post by Scott_Conger » Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:16 pm

David

things rarely just spontaneously break like that. Look for an out of adjustment bolt on the neutral cam that rattled loose.
Scott Conger

Tyranny under the guise of law is still Tyranny

NH Full Flow Float Valves™
Obsolete carburetor parts manufactured


Norman Kling
Posts: 4634
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:39 pm
First Name: Norman
Last Name: Kling
Location: Alpine California

Re: My car just died in the driveway

Post by Norman Kling » Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:21 pm

First, let the car cool off and try again. Very likely vapor lock or rough idle and after it quit became flooded when you tried to start it. Most likely it is a spark or fuel related. Those are easy to check and to fix if a problem.
Norm


Topic author
DHort
Posts: 2826
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:30 pm
First Name: Dave
Last Name: Hjortnaes
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 24 Speedster, 20 touring
Location: Men Falls, WI

Re: My car just died in the driveway

Post by DHort » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:45 pm

Adam Doleshal hit it on the head. He said do not make it difficult. Diagnose the problem. He told me to check the outside linkage. Maybe if I had removed the floor boards first and then gone on the forum I would have seen how simple the fix was.
IMG_20190731_172146900.jpg
IMG_20190731_172146900.jpg (56.97 KiB) Viewed 4235 times
IMG_20190731_172140979.jpg
IMG_20190731_172140979.jpg (68.66 KiB) Viewed 4235 times
I was thinking I was going to have to pull the engine and work on the transmission.
Two bolts loosened up and there went my control. Adam also reminded me to go over the whole car every
year and check all the nuts and bolts. Maybe I would have seen this earlier.

Thanks again for your help.


Dennis_Brown
Posts: 245
Joined: Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:14 pm
First Name: Dennis
Last Name: Brown
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1926 Roadster pickup
Location: Spring Hill Fl

Re: My car just died in the driveway

Post by Dennis_Brown » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:55 pm

If the bolts holding the control shaft mounts are long enough, you can use lock washers but also double nut them and tighten them good with 2 wrenches.

User avatar

DanTreace
Posts: 3813
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:56 am
First Name: Dan
Last Name: Treace
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: ‘12 open express,'23 cutoff, '27 touring
Location: North Central FL
Board Member Since: 2000
Contact:

Re: My car just died in the driveway

Post by DanTreace » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:01 pm

David
Your experience on your T recalled this letter sent to Henry Ford in the early years of his autos, before the Model T.

Letter was written by a customer, who had both praise and faults on his Ford.

Here is an excerpt :

Boston, September 19, 1906. Mr. Henry Ford, Detroit, Michigan
Dear Sir,

....In fact, many of the nuts on the car did not seem to hold. In my mud guards and step, and also the bolts which held engine down to the crank case loosened several times, and many other bolts and nuts throughout the car troubled me extremely by becoming loose and needing almost constant care. In fact, I lost some nuts that hold the frame to the springs before I knew that they were loose; they needing practically daily care to keep them tight.

Very truly yours,
F. H. Briggs


Pretty sure Henry read this letter, as the Model T has those pesky castle nuts and cotter pins everwhere!

They are there for good reasons, as you now know;)
The best way is always the simplest. The attics of the world are cluttered up with complicated failures. Henry Ford
Don’t find fault, find a remedy; anybody can complain. Henry Ford


Norman Kling
Posts: 4634
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:39 pm
First Name: Norman
Last Name: Kling
Location: Alpine California

Re: My car just died in the driveway

Post by Norman Kling » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:34 pm

I missed something in your original post. the car was stuck in high even with the hand lever pulled back. Look at the cam undr where the bolt from the clutch lever at the side of the hogs head. Sometimes it is bent and the bolt slips down by the side of the cam. it sometime helps if you turn the bolt upside down with the head against the cam. This will give you a wider surface.
Norm


Topic author
DHort
Posts: 2826
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:30 pm
First Name: Dave
Last Name: Hjortnaes
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 24 Speedster, 20 touring
Location: Men Falls, WI

Re: My car just died in the driveway

Post by DHort » Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:20 pm

Thanks Norm. Will do.

Post Reply Previous topicNext topic