Radiator Mounting Hardware

Discuss all things Model T related.
Forum rules
If you need help logging in, or have question about how something works, use the Support forum located here Support Forum
Complete set of Forum Rules Forum Rules
User avatar

Topic author
RustyFords
Posts: 739
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:16 am
First Name: Don
Last Name: Allen
Location: Houston, TX
MTFCA Number: 50001

Radiator Mounting Hardware

Post by RustyFords » Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:07 am

I’m a bit flummoxed as to how the radiator mounting hardware goes on my 24 Touring.

My car came with a farm patchwork of nuts and bolts holding down the radiator that wasn’t doing a very good job. However I secured a more stock appearing set that is nicely weathered to match my car and now that my new Berg’s radiator is here, I want to get it mounted.

Can someone please help me figure out the order that the various pieces are installed and how the radiator and shell fit into that order?
Attachments
39EA3F0A-8D2D-4530-98AB-26915CAA455E.jpeg
Last edited by RustyFords on Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:29 am, edited 1 time in total.
1924 Touring

User avatar

John E. Guitar
Posts: 145
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:52 pm
First Name: John
Last Name: Guitar
Location: Sydney
Board Member Since: 2012

Re: Radiator Mounting Hardware

Post by John E. Guitar » Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:24 am

I changed these on my 26 last month.

Here are some drawings from a previous thread. From memory the studs are slightly longer on the 26/27 kit but the rest is the same.

191291.jpg
191291.jpg (22.61 KiB) Viewed 482 times
191292.jpg
191292.jpg (31.76 KiB) Viewed 482 times

Now might be a good time to replace those studs as they look a bit flogged out.

I used a couple of prybars to push the studs upwards to get the nuts on. In hindsight a couple of wedges with string for removal would have been easier.

User avatar

Mark Nunn
Posts: 164
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:01 am
First Name: Mark
Last Name: Nunn
Location: Bennington, NE
MTFCA Number: 50321
Board Member Since: 2017

Re: Radiator Mounting Hardware

Post by Mark Nunn » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:19 am

Martynn made a drawing of this assembly too.

app.php/gallery/image/90


Humblej
Posts: 299
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:23 pm
First Name: Jeff
Last Name: Humble
Location: Charlevoix, Mi
Board Member Since: 2006

Re: Radiator Mounting Hardware

Post by Humblej » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:47 am

Assemble the lower portion first in the frame cavity, stud, spring, square piece, and cotter pin. Use a chisel or wedge to jack up the lower assembly for the stud to sit higher. This will help to align all the upper parts and have some length of stud to get the top nut started. Once it is all tightened up the chisel will fall out.


John kuehn
Posts: 530
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:00 pm
First Name: John
Last Name: Kuehn
Location: Texas
MTFCA Number: 28924

Re: Radiator Mounting Hardware

Post by John kuehn » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:14 am

Using a wedge or chisel is good advice to raise up the stud enough to start the nut! In my mind the studs should have been about 1/4”longer or so. My opinion of course.
I wonder how Ford did it on the assembly lines but it seems like they would have some sort of tool to quickly get the job done.

User avatar

Charlie B in N.J.
Posts: 223
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:40 am
First Name: CHARLIE
Last Name: BRANCA
Location: Brick N.J.
MTFCA Number: 28967
Board Member Since: 2010

Re: Radiator Mounting Hardware

Post by Charlie B in N.J. » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:29 am

Humble & John are right on. Boy did I bust my butt before thinking of doing that. Just make sure you can remove anything you use as a wedge after assembly.
Forget everything you thought you knew.

User avatar

Topic author
RustyFords
Posts: 739
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:16 am
First Name: Don
Last Name: Allen
Location: Houston, TX
MTFCA Number: 50001

Re: Radiator Mounting Hardware

Post by RustyFords » Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:17 am

Thanks for all the help everyone...I sincerely appreciate it.

👍
1924 Touring

User avatar

Mark Gregush
Posts: 1197
Joined: Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:57 pm
First Name: Mark
Last Name: Gregush
Location: Portland Or
Board Member Since: 1999

Re: Radiator Mounting Hardware

Post by Mark Gregush » Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:52 am

The latter cars got a longer bar instead of the little square piece, made it easier to install and remove. The kits use the longer bar. With the small square piece, sometimes it is hard to reach down and keep it from turning when taking out or installing radiator.
I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas! :roll:

1921 Huckster
1925 Cut down pickup

User avatar

George N Lake Ozark
Posts: 195
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:15 pm
First Name: George P
Last Name: Clipner
Location: LakeOzark,Missourah
MTFCI Number: 18665

Re: Radiator Mounting Hardware

Post by George N Lake Ozark » Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:47 pm

When I changed my hardware last year I found the included springs were too long so I cleaned and painted and reused my old ones. Worked like a charm.


John kuehn
Posts: 530
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:00 pm
First Name: John
Last Name: Kuehn
Location: Texas
MTFCA Number: 28924

Re: Radiator Mounting Hardware

Post by John kuehn » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:41 pm

Come to think of it I reused two of the springs when I bought a new kit for my 24 Coupe. I also have seen a thread that a guy used the later bottom square pieces so it would be easier to tighten up. Maybe the kits weren’t made as close to the originals but the guys on Fords assembly line must have had a technique to install the radiator on the moving line and certain tools to do it. I guess I’m just old and slow! Maybe that’s it!


art32mor
Posts: 96
Joined: Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:21 pm
First Name: Art
Last Name: Morra
Location: PA
MTFCI Number: 14286

Re: Radiator Mounting Hardware

Post by art32mor » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:48 pm

Get rid of those short bar nuts get the longer ones you'l thank me later

Post Reply Previous topicNext topic