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I CAN'T FIND PARTS

Post by bobt » Fri Jan 10, 2020 5:33 am

Hello, I own a 1926 and a 1915 model T. I'm trying to stay busy this winter on my new hobby but I'm getting frustrated TRYING to find parts. I have the big part suppliers catalogs, Lang's, Mac's (Eckler's) Snyder's and Texas T's. I want to reline my transmission bands and add a high volume oil line. Everyone has the items in the catalog but nobody has items in stock. I hate to back order parts. It seems like I run into this problem with every order. I don't want to order one part here and one part there because of pricey Shipping and handling (jipping and handling) Does anyone know a part supplier that has actual inventory? Thanks, bobt


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Re: I CAN'T FIND PARTS

Post by Randall strickland » Fri Jan 10, 2020 7:16 am

try texas t parts 800 337 6977


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Post by Randall strickland » Fri Jan 10, 2020 7:22 am

Kevin Prius has the hi vol. oil line kits,he also makes the 8-1 hi comp.heads,330 774 7130


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Re: I CAN'T FIND PARTS

Post by tdump » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:19 am

YOu mean transmission band lining is on back order? That is a comon item

1 thing I can say,Synders and Smith and Jones have not jipped me on shipping. And since I am not far from Smith and jones If I call early enough in the morning,the parts are usally here next day!
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Re: I CAN'T FIND PARTS

Post by Dallas Landers » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:25 am

I waited almost 8 eeeks for band linings.

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Post by Steve Jelf » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:38 am

Some of the following are dealers in new parts but have a lot of used parts not listed in their catalogues. You have to ask. Others sell only old stuff.

Model T Haven, KS (620) 365-6709 modelthaven@nautilus.net

Lang’s, MA (978) 297-1919 www.modeltford.com

Bob’s, IL (815) 633-7244 ModelT2001@comcast.net

Snyder’s, OH (330) 549-5313 don@snydersantiqueauto.com

Chaffin’s, CA (951) 735-4791 www.chaffinsgarage.com

Ron Paetz, Lone Pine Enterprises, WI (608) 604-7534 lonepine@mwt.net

Julius & Marvin Neunhoffer, TX (830) 257-8168 9hoffer@maverickbbs.com

Dave Huson, 2116 Charro Ave. Longmont, Co. 80504
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email modelt112@msn.com

Bob Hagelgantz, KS (785) 731-5285 loah@gbta.net

Birdhaven Vintage Auto Supply, IA (515) 674-3949

Antique Auto Ranch 2225 N. Dollar Rd. in Spokane Valley, WA 99212
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Re: I CAN'T FIND PARTS

Post by TRDxB2 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:02 am

Are you looking for KEVLAR or Scandinavian Bands? Try Bob’s, IL (815) 633-7244 ModelT2001@comcast.net


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Re: I CAN'T FIND PARTS

Post by Adam » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:43 am

The good Kevlar linings have mostly been on backorder from the manufacturer since May, 2019.


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Re: I CAN'T FIND PARTS

Post by bobt » Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:05 am

Thank's for the list Steve. Like I said. I'm new to the hobby. bobt

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Re: I CAN'T FIND PARTS

Post by BE_ZERO_BE » Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:20 am

I think this is a preview of things to come in the Model T Hobby.
Many small suppliers are small businesses or home shop businesses.
Some have difficulty keeping up with demand.
Some have or want to retire and no one has stepped up to continue their efforts.
Case in point - Chaffins. New Ruckstell and 300 hundred other new parts made by them will soon no longer be available.
I hate to say it, but manufacturing of some parts may be forced offshore.
We all know how well that works.
The next generation of suppliers needs to step up and take the plunge.
Even my small little meter service business will some day be looking for a home.
Will anyone step up?
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Post by RustyFords » Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:39 am

The age of readily available Model T parts is soon to be over.

I own and operate an oil refinery supply business and it takes 110% of my time, otherwise I'd be jumping in to take on one or more of these operations that need new stewardship. I may still try to do so anyway.

Ideally, one of the Model T guys in his 20's or 30's would jump in....someone who's looking for a way out of the corporate meat grinder. They could take on more than one of these operations, consolidate them and make a long-term business out of it.
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Post by tdump » Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:46 pm

You have to have good credit to borrow the amount of money that it would take to get the tooling and such from Chaffins for example to restart that bussiness.It would take a couple million at least to get a factory built,move the equipment,renew license and so forth.
The loss of parts hurts us Model T folks,but most of us can't afford to take on that much debt or whatever.
I was planning to order parts in march ,bands is on the list,and then I find out they are on BACK Order for nearly a YEAR? Wow.
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Re: I CAN'T FIND PARTS

Post by Dan Hatch » Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:52 pm

The story I was told about bands is as follows. The machine the makes bands broke and will not be fixed. Another company made some but not as tight a weave. The bands are in testing now to see if they will work. Dan


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Re: I CAN'T FIND PARTS

Post by tdump » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:24 pm

In other words,in a couple years most of our T's will be stuck in the shed because we can't get basic parts like bands? Who has the band machine and I can't believe there was only 1??? :shock: To supply all?
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Re: I CAN'T FIND PARTS

Post by TRDxB2 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:46 pm

I'm 99% sure this is band (narrow) material, appears to b correct width and thickness. Got it with a bunch of T parts. Would appreciate some confirmation. Thinking of cutting it up in strips- how long and what's best tool to cut it with?
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Re: I CAN'T FIND PARTS

Post by Mark Gregush » Sat Jan 11, 2020 2:09 am

The above material maybe too lose of weave but might work in a pinch.
My posting has been edited after reading the post below and re-reading the post above. :)
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Re: I CAN'T FIND PARTS

Post by david_dewey » Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:36 am

A four letter word: WOOD.
Unfortunately that won't solve the other parts problems that seem to be overwhelming right now.
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Post by John iaccino » Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:21 am

I have been following this thread with great interest. It is not true that the machine that weaves the Kevlar belting broke. The man who was weaving the belting died and his children sold it to someone in China. There is a supplier in Europe that has a very loose weave which was not to our liking at Red Hook Restorations. Red Hook Restorations has sourced a Kevlar belt here in the US which is the same, if not better than the original. As far as it being on backorder, All three major retailers (Macs, Lang's, and Snyder's) have our bands in stock. We also sell NEV-R-WEAR retail. Just call us and we will send it out promptly. The price may a little higher due to our costs increasing, but the produce is still the same quality if not better than before.
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Post by aDave » Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:37 am

There is INDEED a light at the end of the tunnel.

Thanks John.

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Post by Oldav8tor » Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:03 am

John,
It's guys like you who make our hobby possible....thanks! Do you have a website? Where can we get more info on your product(s)?

Robert,
I've had the same experience as you.... the big names often get their products from the same sources so sometimes the trick is to figure out who the source is and contact them directly. Birdhaven is one as is Chaffin's (for the time being.) I know it is frustrating but consider the fact that it is still possible to get new parts and accessories for a 100 year car.... I think that's remarkable and a big reason why owning a Model T is not only possible but practical. A big THANK YOU to all those who continue to produce and sell the parts we need.

Another thing, don't hesitate to post a WTB in the classified. Some fellows have incredible parts stashes and are sometimes willing to part with them. I've found the guys on this forum to be real helpful in that regard.
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Post by John iaccino » Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:54 am

Tim, the best way to find out about are produce is to call us. I can be reached at 845-876-7309. Frank can be reached at 518-755-0986. NEV-R-WEAR
has been in production for over 25 years. Our ad can be found in the Vintage Ford magazine. We are trying to keep our costs down so we can pass the savings on to our customers, one of the reasons we no longer have a website. Thanks, John

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Re: I CAN'T FIND PARTS

Post by Mark Gregush » Sat Jan 11, 2020 2:07 pm

Suggestion on high volume oil feed. Why not get one of the reproduction "Ford Faithful" that fit on in place of the inspection plate on the transmissions? No holes to cut in the hogs head that way.
https://www.modeltford.com/item/3081FFK.aspx
Shipping is what it is many will work with you. Call them.
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Re: I CAN'T FIND PARTS

Post by Chris Haynes » Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:33 pm

I visited Chafin's and was amazed at the huge quantity of parts he has in stock. He is looking to retire and wants a million dollars for his business. I doubt that includes the building it is housed in. At my age buying a business is a silly idea. Not to mention the lack of having a million dollars.

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Post by Henry K. Lee » Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:00 pm

Not to be be a "Debby Downer" but reality does set in like anything else. My dear ole Dad and I reproduced parts here and there refurbished, rebuilds, etc and gave a more than generous warranty, but everyone was too cheap to purchase. Now with the facts of modern times, with the kids too busy with sports, homework, not his or hers thing but have their hands out in the pie of profit or trying to keep up with the Jones's. As another ole saying goes, "As the titty goes dry, so does the death of a cash cow". The handwriting as been on the wall for years about the lack of craftsman, trades, and good old hard work paying off. I was raised in a time I would never trade for anything as I was able to pay everything off early in life and retire at 46. Did with out, invested in my future, did not believe in snake oil salesman, did my own homework on subjects from raw data. Some people say I am lucky..., BS, hard work and no good luck pixies/fairy's here. I am blessed as I have more than I deserve.

If we do not support each other in a positive light, we divide and fail. We do not see stamp collectors, coin collectors, horse drawn carriages, stage coaches and other unique bygone era objects so to say. GET YOUR GRANDCHILDREN INVOLVED! They will appreciate it another day! Put the damn phone down and get engage. Model T's will go by the way side as other things have real quick if you(we) do not work quickly. DO NOT MAKE EXCUSES, THIS IS OUR HOBBY AND THERAPY!

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Post by dmdeaton » Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:48 pm

I am 60 yrs old and still in the hoarding stage. I need parts for my next 20 projects on the list, 19 of which in my afterlife. I have my own business and am busy 24/7 like most folks. Some of the craftsmen that creates these parts work full time also. We get a little edgy when we cant get our parts right away. But they always come through. I would rather spend a few more bucks for better parts as I don't have the time to restore every nut and bolt. In the short time I have been in the A and T hobby I have found more parts available at pretty reasonable prices. You just need to dig a little, search the internet, ask local club members, they are a wealth of knowledge and extra parts.
I would hate to try and restore a Chevy, Buick, Cadddy, or Dodge of the same years as the Fords we are working on. Talk about hard to find and $$$$$.

I appreciate all here who have helped me so far and keep adding items to the classifieds!!

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Post by Oldav8tor » Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:29 am

"You get what you pay for" is a true statement. I have no objection to paying a bit more for quality and to make it possible for the small manufacturers to survive and make a profit. All the previous posters have made good points and as Hank says, the future of the hobby doesn't depend on our generation but on those who follow who we share our knowledge and enthusiasm with. As a retired teacher, I know that sometimes a small event can have long-lasting effects. Take a kid for a ride...show him/her some respect and tell them what's great about Model T's and who knows where it will lead.

Maybe we ought to put together a Model T Summer Camp for kids..... :D
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Post by tdump » Sun Jan 12, 2020 12:41 pm

I must admit,I chose a Model T as my first antique vehical because I found the old chain Drive Macks to be hard to find ,exspensive and parts to be ,well all but impossiable to find.

Alot of things can be dealt with the hard way,repairing old worn parts and so on.But this band thing, without bands, our T's don't move.
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