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Craig Leach
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Warford

Post by Craig Leach » Fri Oct 08, 2021 4:30 am

Been fighting a leaking Warford trans that leaks out the the rear more than the owner would like. This can be resolved in a Muncie by using sealed ball bearings. Has anyone tried using sealed ball bearings in a Warford instead of taperd roller bearings?
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Re: Warford

Post by Mark Gregush » Fri Oct 08, 2021 10:33 am

I think because of why the tapered bearings were used and setup, you would have to use a thrust type bearing, like the one in the Ruckstell. Find the OD, ID and width (more than likely in millimeters) and do some checking. What weight/type lube is being used? Is the leak for sure coming from the rear bearing or is it the shift rails or is just the grease out of the U-joint housing? I would have to check, but maybe a seal could be added to part 18. Or this is something that they would just have to live with.
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Re: Warford

Post by got10carz » Fri Oct 08, 2021 10:38 am

I have never run a original Warford, but my new one develops pressure and needs to be vented. Perhaps yours is being pressurized?


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Re: Warford

Post by Dan Haynes » Fri Oct 08, 2021 12:13 pm

Is it possible the lube is too thin? I have had leak troubles in a number of cars from transmissions, rear axles and transaxles and I traced it to the lube. Modern thin-bodied gear lube is formulated to reduce running drag and help boost mileage, while original gear boxes almost always took 600w. I have kept a barrel of steam cylinder oil around for 30 years (not the same barrel for 30 years) for this reason. Warfords and Muncies shift easier and run much quieter in under- and overdrive. The heavier body of steam cylinder oil (also marketed as extreme pressure gear lube) will better stay in bearings without running out and it stays on gears and shafts.

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