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OK MA! Your turn!

Post by Dollisdad » Tue Oct 18, 2022 6:32 pm

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Re: OK MA! Your turn!

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Post by Wayne Sheldon » Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:19 am

Another 32 wonderful photos! A few repeats, but you won't hear me complaining.
Numbers 8 & 9 are the same 1913 Ford touring car, with a slight rearrangement of the passengers. A great car to be sure! Most notably, it appears to be a right hand driven Canadian car. Numbers and "Ford" script are facing right. Also, the driver's door has hinges.
Note also the electrified headlamps.

Number 26, a 1914 runabout, is also a Canadian right hand driven car! Again, the "Ford" script is correctly showing, and the driver's door has hinges.
Note how the horn bulb is mounted under the top end of the steering column.

Number 23 (if I didn't miscount?) appears to be a 1917 folding top couplet. What is interesting about it, is the rear sides of the top does not have the small windows added to the couplet very late in calendar 1915 for the 1916 and later models?
It also has some nice aftermarket Firestone type demountable rim wheels. I should mention that Firestone was one of several companies that manufactured or marketed similar wheels. There is quite some history there. Licensing agreements, patent infringements, mergers, acquisitions, selloffs. Perlman circled the world, Jaxon (later famous for their steel disc wheels), and others were involved. Most of them looked very much alike unless you can get very close. That is why I usually identify them as "Firestone type" wheels.

Numbers 14 & 15 show a 1912 (?) with a wonderful after-market electric starter! Don't see ones like that very often! Can you imagine trying to maintain it and keep the gears and all clean enough to use it? Splashing in the mud? Dry dusty roads coating the the necessary oil in dust?

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Post by Mark Nunn » Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:42 am

Wayne, I'm not convinced that the aftermarket starter is electric. The connections look less like electric cables and more like hose connections. Could that be pneumatic? Someone (Dan?) may have an advertisement for it.

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Post by TWrenn » Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:51 am

Mark Nunn wrote:
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Wayne, I'm not convinced that the aftermarket starter is electric. The connections look less like electric cables and more like hose connections. Could that be pneumatic? Someone (Dan?) may have an advertisement for it.
I think those are elec. cables..they gotta be pretty heavy to run that beast! Also, where in the world would the air pressure come from to be a pnuematic starter in the first place? Pics 8 & 9 of that '13 are indeed great clear pics as well as of a great '13. The second pic does a great job once again of settling any questions regarding the correct boot to with that little flap on the top edge. So many repos do not come that way and it's just a shame. Trust me, my Clarabelle has them!! :lol:


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Post by BobShirleyAtlantaTx » Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:59 am

The chain MIGHT be considered a liability in today’s market, YOU THINK?

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Post by TWrenn » Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:38 am

BobShirleyAtlantaTx wrote:
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The chain MIGHT be considered a liability in today’s market, YOU THINK?
Ya, how true! I can see kids sticking their fingers in it while daddy's cranking it over!!
Definitely not OSHA approved.

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Post by Mark Nunn » Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:37 pm

Tim, there were pneumatic starters on the market. A storage tank was pumped up during engine operation but I don't know how, a belt driven pump, I suppose. I saw a photo of one on a Lozier some years back. The problem with pneumatic starters is that you only get one chance to start an engine. Then it must be hand cranked.

Looking at the photo again, I agree that is must be electric given the severe gear reduction involved.


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Post by Wayne Sheldon » Wed Oct 19, 2022 5:22 pm

Mark N, It is an interesting thought that hadn't occurred to me. It could actually be an air starter? Although looking close, I suspect it is electric.
A longtime good friend has a late 1911/early 1912 Pierce Arrow with an air starter from the Pierce Arrow factory. It was a very original car, then restored in the 1950s. When they re-restored the car about twenty years ago, they had the starter system completely rebuilt and made functional. It is quite something to see and hear used!
I can't recall ever seeing one of the after-market air starting systems, but I do know that they were marketed to fit almost any make of car.
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Post by Herb Iffrig » Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:01 am

Is the car with the two guys wearing stove pipe hats a Model F Ford?


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Post by Norman Kling » Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:44 am

Stove pipe hats. Not a Ford. Probably picture made in early 1930's because the car in the background looks like a 1930 Model A or or that vintage. The springs on the car with stove pipes are not transverse like a Ford.
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Post by Dollisdad » Thu Oct 20, 2022 2:18 pm

Herb and Norman, I could be wrong(usually am) but when I first saw the picture I thought it was a Model C.

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Post by TWrenn » Thu Oct 20, 2022 4:29 pm

Mark Nunn wrote:
Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:37 pm
Tim, there were pneumatic starters on the market. A storage tank was pumped up during engine operation but I don't know how, a belt driven pump, I suppose. I saw a photo of one on a Lozier some years back. The problem with pneumatic starters is that you only get one chance to start an engine. Then it must be hand cranked.

Looking at the photo again, I agree that is must be electric given the severe gear reduction involved.
Thanks Mark...again, good to learn new stuff. I did indeed "wonder" if maybe I was wrong and there could've been a pnuematic, and instantly figured if it was, it'd be a "one shot" deal...not very user friendly in my book, eh? Thanks for your post.

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Post by Thorlick » Thu Oct 20, 2022 7:32 pm

The picture I absolutely love is number 19. It appears to be a Ford Laundalet.

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The seat support and floor riser seem to have very plain craftsmanship in contrast to the body. The rear fender looks to be home made also.

The text on the building and the uniforms as well as the left hand drive and American Red Cross stencil might put this in France late in the war (1918?).

Even if it is not one of the rare as hen's teeth original Model T's of this style, I would still love to have it. I am sorry I sold my 1913 (reproduction) RHD New Zealand Fire Brigade car, which I now miss!

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Post by Dollisdad » Thu Oct 20, 2022 7:42 pm

What do you think? Model C?
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Post by Norman Kling » Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:23 pm

Looks like it!
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Post by Herb Iffrig » Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:12 pm

By Georg, I think you got it!


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Post by Wayne Sheldon » Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:26 pm

Hey there Terry H!
Yeah, I was surprised when you put it up for sale! But life is like that sometimes.

I am fairly sure the landaulet is a French built body. Shipping during the wartime was mostly limited to necessities (war, medical, or life) and full bodied cars took up too much space. Craftsmen only needed a small shop to turn out good bodies quickly. Somewhere years ago, I saw a wartime photo taken in France showing such a shop rebuilding model Ts largely destroyed in battle! There was a small building, and most of the final assembly and some repair work was being done in the street.

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Post by Rob » Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:41 pm

Thank you as always for the photos. Yes, Model C. I’ve seen it before, and I believe it may have been at a fair or event in England or Europe. Anyway, the photo is identified somewhere. Maybe I can find it.

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Post by Burger in Spokane » Fri Oct 21, 2022 12:29 pm

That Packard !!! 🎉
More people are doing it today than ever before !

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