Not being familiar with these, I don't know if it's supposed to be split, or if that is wrong for these. I've seen the two earlier styles, which are not split. But I can't find a good photo of a late pan that shows this area.
Front Engine Support - Is This Right?
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modernbeat
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Front Engine Support - Is This Right?
Going through my 1926-27 motor parts in anticipation of building a motor and found that the only 4-dip pan I have has an opening where the sleeve goes.
Not being familiar with these, I don't know if it's supposed to be split, or if that is wrong for these. I've seen the two earlier styles, which are not split. But I can't find a good photo of a late pan that shows this area.
Not being familiar with these, I don't know if it's supposed to be split, or if that is wrong for these. I've seen the two earlier styles, which are not split. But I can't find a good photo of a late pan that shows this area.
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Re: Front Engine Support - Is This Right?
Jason, this Is not correct or safe.
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Re: Front Engine Support - Is This Right?
I'd guess a WTB is next on my list.
Thanks guys, I couldn't find a good reference photo of a 26-27 that showed the front casting.
Thanks guys, I couldn't find a good reference photo of a 26-27 that showed the front casting.
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Re: Front Engine Support - Is This Right?
If the rest of the pan is in reasonably good condition? That could be repaired. It MAY have been cut to remove a hand crank bushing. Some pans had bushings, some did not. I can't tell from the photo if this one had a bushing or not. If someone were to repair it, that would need to be checked for fit and repaired to match.
Properly welded, or even brazed, that could be made nearly as good as new. I have repaired much worse.
Properly welded, or even brazed, that could be made nearly as good as new. I have repaired much worse.
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Re: Front Engine Support - Is This Right?
Hmmm. That cut in your pan nose sure looks factory though it’s not. Looks to be cut to good. It’s got that good cut in it in anticipation of being repaired. They probably found another pan to use and got rid of this one. It can be repaired so don’t throw it away.
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Re: Front Engine Support - Is This Right?
Along those lines, if this one is reparable, I'll likely go that way.
I've had a few people tell me it could be pressed together and welded. But really, I think cutting the rivets off and replacing it while on a jig is the right way to go.
I've had a hard time finding a 26-27 cast support piece. Is the '25 piece the same, except for the two extra rivets?
And yeah, that cut looked factory. That's why I was confused about the cut. I had never seen one with a cut, but it looked so right.
I've had a few people tell me it could be pressed together and welded. But really, I think cutting the rivets off and replacing it while on a jig is the right way to go.
I've had a hard time finding a 26-27 cast support piece. Is the '25 piece the same, except for the two extra rivets?
And yeah, that cut looked factory. That's why I was confused about the cut. I had never seen one with a cut, but it looked so right.
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Re: Front Engine Support - Is This Right?
That is a very easy weld repair job, MUCH easier than searching for and replacing the pan nose. Look around for a local welder, he should be able to fix you right up. Don't just press it together and weld it until you determine that the hole is the correct size. Don't forget that welding it will shrink the ID a bit too. Dave
1925 mostly original coupe.