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- Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:04 pm
- First Name: Jim
- Last Name: Eubanks
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1926 touring, 1927 cpe
- Location: Powell, TN
Re: Sitting on top of the world.
Wonder what happened in that shop with the T on its side and another car............
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- First Name: Wayne
- Last Name: Sheldon
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1915 Runabout 1913 Speedster
- Location: Grass Valley California, USA
- Board Member Since: 2005
Re: Sitting on top of the world.
A 1920ish model T coupe, apparently rolled or end-overed, possibly due to a collision. Roof is torn back, windshield gone, driver's (suicide) door is laying straight back on the high side.
The front end is hanging from the back of the tow truck, a 1914ish Cadillac put into tow service as a second life. If you look closely, you can see part of the wrecker crane between the T's engine and the Cadillac's front seat. It may have been a touring car with the back half of the body removed to make a wrecker of the big old car.
The T coupe was probably literally dragged in off the street!
The front end is hanging from the back of the tow truck, a 1914ish Cadillac put into tow service as a second life. If you look closely, you can see part of the wrecker crane between the T's engine and the Cadillac's front seat. It may have been a touring car with the back half of the body removed to make a wrecker of the big old car.
The T coupe was probably literally dragged in off the street!
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- First Name: Pat
- Last Name: McNallen
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1926-7 roadster
- Location: Graham, Texas
- Board Member Since: 2021
Re: Sitting on top of the world.
Pic # 12.... Marvin the Munchkin?
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Re: Sitting on top of the world.
The two speedsters, photos seven and eight, are both very interesting.
Number eight, a basic pre1920 speedster. The license plate is from 1921, but the over axle wishbone with under axle brace, headlamps, crank handle, and engine/spring mount all suggest the car was a few years old by then. The body was a common after-market available by catalog or local auto supply stores, by a few different manufacturers. The wheels appear to be Firestone type five lug demountable rim wheels. There is a conveniently placed hand Klaxon horn, and the headlamp lenses appear to be after-market.
Number seven is a great early T speedster. the short radiator neck and remnant wear on the core from a "Ford" script suggest that it is a 1909 or 1910 racing car. I "think" I may have seen a couple other photos of this car before?
The four short stacks poking through the side of the hood and exhaust blackening on the hood itself make me wonder whether or not this car might have been one of the handful of Ford factory built racing car that Henry had the factory build between 1910 and 1912? I would sure like to see Rob Heyen's opinion on this car.
There were about five or six such cars built, in varying displacements including the 400 cubic inch one built last in 1912, and the one sent to Henri Depasse, the Ford dealer in France. All of them as I recall were built such that seating and fuel tanks could be quickly changed for best advantage for several types of contests, races, or hill climbs. Many photos show the cars with two seats, while a few photos will show a car with only a single seat.
One thing that bothers me about the photo is how high the driver is sitting. Frank Kulick usually sat barely inches above the top of the frame rails. This fellow (not Kulick) is sitting much higher.
Number eight, a basic pre1920 speedster. The license plate is from 1921, but the over axle wishbone with under axle brace, headlamps, crank handle, and engine/spring mount all suggest the car was a few years old by then. The body was a common after-market available by catalog or local auto supply stores, by a few different manufacturers. The wheels appear to be Firestone type five lug demountable rim wheels. There is a conveniently placed hand Klaxon horn, and the headlamp lenses appear to be after-market.
Number seven is a great early T speedster. the short radiator neck and remnant wear on the core from a "Ford" script suggest that it is a 1909 or 1910 racing car. I "think" I may have seen a couple other photos of this car before?
The four short stacks poking through the side of the hood and exhaust blackening on the hood itself make me wonder whether or not this car might have been one of the handful of Ford factory built racing car that Henry had the factory build between 1910 and 1912? I would sure like to see Rob Heyen's opinion on this car.
There were about five or six such cars built, in varying displacements including the 400 cubic inch one built last in 1912, and the one sent to Henri Depasse, the Ford dealer in France. All of them as I recall were built such that seating and fuel tanks could be quickly changed for best advantage for several types of contests, races, or hill climbs. Many photos show the cars with two seats, while a few photos will show a car with only a single seat.
One thing that bothers me about the photo is how high the driver is sitting. Frank Kulick usually sat barely inches above the top of the frame rails. This fellow (not Kulick) is sitting much higher.
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- First Name: Erik
- Last Name: Johnson
- Location: Minneapolis, MN
Re: Sitting on top of the world.
The 1912 Torpedo with the young woman has Minnesota 1912-13-14 license plate 19029 which was registered to Charles Wayland of Ivanhoe, MN.